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sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
September 15 2010 18:00 GMT
#61
Just finished watching this series. Can't believe IdrA is out so early!! Honestly, I'm not at all in favor of this looking up the opponents build through b.net. It creates these unnecessary mind games which can ultimately backfire.

But anyways, they were great games, with the third being the best.
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
September 15 2010 18:01 GMT
#62
On September 16 2010 01:33 zerg4hire wrote:
Meh its like impossible to win as a zerg if you dont have a perfect game IMO.
zerg cant win unless they know what protoss is doing exactly, hope patches come out soon
and make idra happy. :D


what u on about zvp is like the best MU.
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kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
September 15 2010 18:03 GMT
#63
Until blizzard do something about it, that's just how it's going to be.

I think what is good is a lot of the issues the community has been talking about are now starting to manifest themselves. Hopefully blizzard are taking notes and can do something to sort out the little bits and pieces.
David Dark
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland100 Posts
September 15 2010 18:04 GMT
#64
is there any replay of this?
Hey dude, nice shot.
SuperGnu
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden240 Posts
September 15 2010 18:06 GMT
#65
Not surprised.
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 15 2010 18:07 GMT
#66
On September 16 2010 02:44 omgCRAZY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 02:40 tomatriedes wrote:
How did he 'learn' what builds Idra was practicing against? Did Idra's practice partner leak that? If so, that's a pretty shitty thing to do.


I believe they said Idra was practicing with NEXGenius and Lotzes teammates saw on NEXGenius' profile that he had played idra a few times on LT with the exact build that he had planned to go for.


Wow, that sucks for Idra- pretty unlucky.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
September 15 2010 18:08 GMT
#67
So the "best" foreign player gets beat by some korean i've never even heard of before now? Looks like sc2 is going to be dominated by koreans again

Atleast IdrA didnt lose to Terran, or we would have never heard the end of it :D
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 18:29:13
September 15 2010 18:28 GMT
#68
On September 16 2010 02:15 Sqq wrote:
I hate when people use the term metagame.

The thing is this is the exact correct use of metagame, these kinds of things are why there is a word metagame -> to describe this using information that's outside the boundaries of 1 match and controlling what information you provide.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 15 2010 18:28 GMT
#69
Also, Korea has some *really* amazing Protoss players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see any of them beat out the Terran hordes to win this whole thing
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Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 18:34:32
September 15 2010 18:33 GMT
#70
On September 16 2010 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 02:44 omgCRAZY wrote:
On September 16 2010 02:40 tomatriedes wrote:
How did he 'learn' what builds Idra was practicing against? Did Idra's practice partner leak that? If so, that's a pretty shitty thing to do.


I believe they said Idra was practicing with NEXGenius and Lotzes teammates saw on NEXGenius' profile that he had played idra a few times on LT with the exact build that he had planned to go for.


Wow, that sucks for Idra- pretty unlucky.

He deserved it imo... People are misunderstanding what happened.. Idra scouted what builds his opponent had been practicing and then practiced a counter build for that which the opponent was luckily tipped off about before he started playing him. Idra is the one that started snooping BOs, not the other guy.

*edit because I feel like crap.
Phrencys
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada270 Posts
September 15 2010 18:35 GMT
#71
Is IdrA kind of overrated?

He's a pretty good player, don't get me wrong... but there seem to be much better zergs out there.

I mean, he's certainly entertaining to watch with all the BM and stuff, but players like Dimaga and Sheth seem to be having better results backing them up so far, although it's still way too early to tell which one is really the best.

IdrAs keeps getting owned by no-names, it's a big let down to me.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
September 15 2010 18:39 GMT
#72
On September 16 2010 03:08 Deadlyfish wrote:
So the "best" foreign player gets beat by some korean i've never even heard of before now? Looks like sc2 is going to be dominated by koreans again

Atleast IdrA didnt lose to Terran, or we would have never heard the end of it :D


Posts like this make me want to bash my head into a wall. Let's break it down.
1)Just because you've never heard of a player, doesn't mean he isn't good.
2)ZvP is IdrA's worst matchup.
3)The GSL was 93.75% Koreans, Foreigners always had a small chance to win.
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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
September 15 2010 18:53 GMT
#73
It's quite comforting to know that even Pros make mistakes like missing a hidden expansion for the whole game once in a while...

Makes my ladder losses today a lot easier to bear.
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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 15 2010 18:55 GMT
#74
I wonder how Lotze found out Idra was practicing vs. his build. Did he look at Idra's match-list, then look at Idra's opponents' build orders and see that they were the same as his own? Or did someone rat out Idra? Either way, Lotze wins the mind game.
$♥$
Keula
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany157 Posts
September 15 2010 18:56 GMT
#75
NOOOOOOOO Idra is out ...
Only 1 Zerg left oh the drama..
EG fan
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 19:06:25
September 15 2010 19:04 GMT
#76
+ Show Spoiler +
Hey, Maybe Artosis will do an interview and IdrA and him can complain about protoss instead of terran for once?


Really sucks that IdrA lost that.. Reasons why blizzard should get rid of match history and the builds. Every time someone enters a tournament they are going to need like 4 accounts to prevent shit like this.

On September 16 2010 03:08 Deadlyfish wrote:
So the "best" foreign player gets beat by some korean i've never even heard of before now? Looks like sc2 is going to be dominated by koreans again

Atleast IdrA didnt lose to Terran, or we would have never heard the end of it :D


Because the Korean Protoss checked on NEXGenius' profile and seen what build IdrA was doing means that Koreans will dominate Starcraft II? Lot's of logic.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 15 2010 19:07 GMT
#77
On September 16 2010 03:56 Keula wrote:
NOOOOOOOO Idra is out ...
Only 1 Zerg left oh the drama..

This

Mind games and counter-mind-games oh my. And without LAN-only play to practice somewhere that your opponents can't scout your profile and see your openings, there's nowhere to hide, this is disturbing and could be really bad for the SC2 scene. (HINT BLIZZARD HINT HINT)

I'm really sad we're down to 1 foreigner and pretty few zergs left, though.

TLO FIGHTING
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
September 15 2010 19:11 GMT
#78
Gratz to Lotze, you played well and deserved to win.

One foreigner left, but I just can't get myself to root for a dude that plays Terran.

Long live the swarm!
Raevin
Profile Joined July 2010
246 Posts
September 15 2010 19:12 GMT
#79
<i>Honestly, I'm not at all in favor of this looking up the opponents build through b.net.</i>

Idra is the one who was doing this

<i>It creates these unnecessary mind games which can ultimately backfire. </i>

Yea and it backfired like you said, snooping around ended up biting him in the ass.

<i>Really sucks that IdrA lost that.. Reasons why blizzard should get rid of match history and the builds. Every time someone enters a tournament they are going to need like 4 accounts to prevent shit like this.</i>

So its Blizzards fault that IDRA HIMSELF went around and tried to figure Lotze's build, then when it backfired, instead of praising Lotze for outsmarting him you blame Blizzard for allowing something Idra himself tried to use to his advantage?


Look i get alot of people here want Idra or TLO to go really far, and everyone is trying to stir up some sort of controversy here becuase they are upset he got knocked out, but there is really no controversy, he got outplayed in the third game.



AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
September 15 2010 19:12 GMT
#80
Loved the fake robo.

Now go TLO!! ^^
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