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[Interview] GSL Ro32 Lotze vs Idra Winner - Page 13

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omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 17:50:00
September 17 2010 17:49 GMT
#241
On September 17 2010 05:31 Chill wrote:
Please don't cite Sirlin. Once you turn to stopping time with ancient asian techniques, you lose all credibility.

Sirlin has some very well written and well reasoned articles. If he has some absurd belief it doesn't change the reasoning of his articles.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 17 2010 19:54 GMT
#242
Man, some of you guys talk about Idra like he's the Flash of SC2. Flash's Starsense would've told him about that expansion even without scouting.

Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
September 17 2010 20:44 GMT
#243
Si many mind games with the build orders.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
September 17 2010 21:44 GMT
#244
wow.. it's like he's using Idra's spy against him. that's so cool.
TheEpicLolz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada72 Posts
September 18 2010 00:04 GMT
#245
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.


Really dude? O.o

Seriously?????

Are you non-korean? Cuz if so, I want to slap you D: </3
But yeah, TLO is awesome. I really hope he wins Ro64.
Lol :D
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9109 Posts
September 18 2010 00:10 GMT
#246
I was so sad watching that last game. I thought he was going to take game 3 up until a few minutes before it ended. GL to IdrA in the next GSL but gl to Lotze in this one, he seems like a nice enough dude.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 00:20:05
September 18 2010 00:19 GMT
#247
On September 18 2010 04:54 andrewlt wrote:
Man, some of you guys talk about Idra like he's the Flash of SC2. Flash's Starsense would've told him about that expansion even without scouting.

No one is the current Flash of SC2. I don't think you can even call what Flash has star sense, it's more like Flash sense because no one does it like him. Idra is without a doubt a top player in the current scene though.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
divertiti
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada106 Posts
September 18 2010 00:24 GMT
#248
Glad to see Idra put in his place, Lotze played very very smart.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 18 2010 00:25 GMT
#249
IdrA screwed this up for himself.
It was painful to watch him not scout that hidden expansion for such a long period of time.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 18 2010 00:27 GMT
#250
where can i get the loser interview. i wanna hear some idra rage.
...from the land of imba
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 18 2010 00:54 GMT
#251
Next GSL or two are Idra's last chances to do anything, before the real progamers switch over.. because with his closed-mindedness, he's not gonna stand a chance vs people of same or better mechanical skills.

Evolve or die..
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 04:50:17
September 18 2010 04:49 GMT
#252
On September 18 2010 09:54 niteReloaded wrote:
Next GSL or two are Idra's last chances to do anything, before the real progamers switch over.. because with his closed-mindedness, he's not gonna stand a chance vs people of same or better mechanical skills.

Evolve or die..


I don't get the statement about close-mindedness.

IdrA has explained in very logical fashion why he plays the way he does. It's not that he isn't open to other tactics. It's that nothing but "out econ your opponent" consistently works for Zerg in the current game.
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 18 2010 04:56 GMT
#253
On September 18 2010 13:49 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 09:54 niteReloaded wrote:
Next GSL or two are Idra's last chances to do anything, before the real progamers switch over.. because with his closed-mindedness, he's not gonna stand a chance vs people of same or better mechanical skills.

Evolve or die..


I don't get the statement about close-mindedness.

IdrA has explained in very logical fashion why he plays the way he does. It's not that he isn't open to other tactics. It's that nothing but "out econ your opponent" consistently works for Zerg in the current game.

Yes, but once you out-econ your opponent, you can't just sit and wait and play passively without scouting all expansions on the map.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
September 18 2010 05:00 GMT
#254
To bad idra lost to this guy, I really wanted to see IdrA take home the whole tournament. Better luck next time greg!
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 18 2010 05:08 GMT
#255
lol i like how people are all like "oh man it's going to be korean domination in sc2, foreigners can't win", cuz idra loses to a korean.

guess what, there's 62 koreans in the tournament and 2 foreigners, so yeah, he's probably going to lose to a korean
-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
September 18 2010 11:40 GMT
#256
I hate it when toss hide their tech. That is why I always open 111 now days.
http://www.facebook.com/midnightsc Chinese caster from TW (go SEn)
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
September 18 2010 11:48 GMT
#257
On September 18 2010 14:08 travis wrote:
lol i like how people are all like "oh man it's going to be korean domination in sc2, foreigners can't win", cuz idra loses to a korean.

guess what, there's 62 koreans in the tournament and 2 foreigners, so yeah, he's probably going to lose to a korean


60 Koreans
4 Foreigners Torch, Artosis, Idra, TLO.
Yes the odds were stacked against them.

Idra lost because he ignored his style and tried to be cute.
I would have guessed he would have reached the RO8 easily if he hadn't tried that.
Torch - too new
TLO - has same chance as Idra did RO8 with ease IMO.
Artosis - Has a ceiling on his gameplay that he can't raise.

Hopefully a few more of the really good foreigners show up next time.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
September 18 2010 12:26 GMT
#258
Great interview, thank Milkis.

Nice to hear Lotze's thoughts on the series. Hopefully Idra will go farther in the next GSL. Good accomplishment making it as far as he did.
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
September 18 2010 12:45 GMT
#259
On September 18 2010 20:48 NoobSkills wrote:
TLO - has same chance as Idra did RO8 with ease IMO.


So you think TLO is going to beat Hyperdub and Tester with ease? Not likely.
Bisu
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 18 2010 13:59 GMT
#260
On September 18 2010 13:49 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 09:54 niteReloaded wrote:
Next GSL or two are Idra's last chances to do anything, before the real progamers switch over.. because with his closed-mindedness, he's not gonna stand a chance vs people of same or better mechanical skills.

Evolve or die..


I don't get the statement about close-mindedness.

IdrA has explained in very logical fashion why he plays the way he does. It's not that he isn't open to other tactics. It's that nothing but "out econ your opponent" consistently works for Zerg in the current game.

the statement has more to do with what he did in SC1 than SC2, but people don't change quickly.

Also, why do you think Idra picked Zerg in the first place?

..

Because the race is the way it is, you can play it like a robot and it doesn't gain much in strenght if you're creative. So he's setting himself up for things he'll use as excuses later on.
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