On September 17 2010 05:31 Chill wrote:
Please don't cite Sirlin. Once you turn to stopping time with ancient asian techniques, you lose all credibility.

Sirlin has some very well written and well reasoned articles. If he has some absurd belief it doesn't change the reasoning of his articles.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

September 17 2010 19:54 GMT

#242

Man, some of you guys talk about Idra like he's the Flash of SC2. Flash's Starsense would've told him about that expansion even without scouting.

Sanguinarius

United States3427 Posts

September 17 2010 20:44 GMT

#243

Si many mind games with the build orders.

Escape

Canada306 Posts

September 17 2010 21:44 GMT

#244

wow.. it's like he's using Idra's spy against him. that's so cool.

TheEpicLolz

Canada72 Posts

September 18 2010 00:04 GMT

#245

On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.

Really dude? O.o

Seriously?????

Are you non-korean? Cuz if so, I want to slap you D: </3
But yeah, TLO is awesome. I really hope he wins Ro64.

Jonoman92

United States9104 Posts

September 18 2010 00:10 GMT

#246

I was so sad watching that last game. I thought he was going to take game 3 up until a few minutes before it ended. GL to IdrA in the next GSL but gl to Lotze in this one, he seems like a nice enough dude.

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

September 18 2010 00:19 GMT

#247

On September 18 2010 04:54 andrewlt wrote:
Man, some of you guys talk about Idra like he's the Flash of SC2. Flash's Starsense would've told him about that expansion even without scouting.

No one is the current Flash of SC2. I don't think you can even call what Flash has star sense, it's more like Flash sense because no one does it like him. Idra is without a doubt a top player in the current scene though.

divertiti

Canada106 Posts

September 18 2010 00:24 GMT

#248

Glad to see Idra put in his place, Lotze played very very smart.

Lennon

United Kingdom2275 Posts

September 18 2010 00:25 GMT

#249

IdrA screwed this up for himself.
It was painful to watch him not scout that hidden expansion for such a long period of time.

dybydx

Canada1764 Posts

September 18 2010 00:27 GMT

#250

where can i get the loser interview. i wanna hear some idra rage.

niteReloaded

Croatia5282 Posts

September 18 2010 00:54 GMT

#251

Next GSL or two are Idra's last chances to do anything, before the real progamers switch over.. because with his closed-mindedness, he's not gonna stand a chance vs people of same or better mechanical skills.

Evolve or die..

Jermstuddog

United States2231 Posts

September 18 2010 04:49 GMT

#252

On September 18 2010 09:54 niteReloaded wrote:
Next GSL or two are Idra's last chances to do anything, before the real progamers switch over.. because with his closed-mindedness, he's not gonna stand a chance vs people of same or better mechanical skills.

Evolve or die..

I don't get the statement about close-mindedness.

IdrA has explained in very logical fashion why he plays the way he does. It's not that he isn't open to other tactics. It's that nothing but "out econ your opponent" consistently works for Zerg in the current game.

0neder

United States3733 Posts

September 18 2010 04:56 GMT

#253

On September 18 2010 13:49 Jermstuddog wrote:

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Yes, but once you out-econ your opponent, you can't just sit and wait and play passively without scouting all expansions on the map.

Kare

Norway786 Posts

September 18 2010 05:00 GMT

#254

To bad idra lost to this guy, I really wanted to see IdrA take home the whole tournament. Better luck next time greg!

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

September 18 2010 05:08 GMT

#255

lol i like how people are all like "oh man it's going to be korean domination in sc2, foreigners can't win", cuz idra loses to a korean.

guess what, there's 62 koreans in the tournament and 2 foreigners, so yeah, he's probably going to lose to a korean

-miDnight-

Taiwan455 Posts

September 18 2010 11:40 GMT

#256

I hate it when toss hide their tech. That is why I always open 111 now days.

NoobSkills

United States1601 Posts

September 18 2010 11:48 GMT

#257

On September 18 2010 14:08 travis wrote:
lol i like how people are all like "oh man it's going to be korean domination in sc2, foreigners can't win", cuz idra loses to a korean.

guess what, there's 62 koreans in the tournament and 2 foreigners, so yeah, he's probably going to lose to a korean

60 Koreans
4 Foreigners Torch, Artosis, Idra, TLO.
Yes the odds were stacked against them.

Idra lost because he ignored his style and tried to be cute.
I would have guessed he would have reached the RO8 easily if he hadn't tried that.
Torch - too new
TLO - has same chance as Idra did RO8 with ease IMO.
Artosis - Has a ceiling on his gameplay that he can't raise.

Hopefully a few more of the really good foreigners show up next time.

groms

Canada1017 Posts

September 18 2010 12:26 GMT

#258

Great interview, thank Milkis.

Nice to hear Lotze's thoughts on the series. Hopefully Idra will go farther in the next GSL. Good accomplishment making it as far as he did.

Mascherano

Argentina1726 Posts

September 18 2010 12:45 GMT

#259

On September 18 2010 20:48 NoobSkills wrote:
TLO - has same chance as Idra did RO8 with ease IMO.

So you think TLO is going to beat Hyperdub and Tester with ease? Not likely.

niteReloaded

Croatia5282 Posts

September 18 2010 13:59 GMT

#260

On September 18 2010 13:49 Jermstuddog wrote:

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the statement has more to do with what he did in SC1 than SC2, but people don't change quickly.

Also, why do you think Idra picked Zerg in the first place?

..

Because the race is the way it is, you can play it like a robot and it doesn't gain much in strenght if you're creative. So he's setting himself up for things he'll use as excuses later on.