• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:01
CEST 22:01
KST 05:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters4[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?85Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!41Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over September World Ranking: herO leads, Serral climbs
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9]
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group A [ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
F* the Children and Get Off …
TrAiDoS
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6542 users

[Interview] GSL Ro32 Lotze vs Idra Winner - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 15 2010 16:52 GMT
#21
Oh man. I didn't watch the series yet and came into this thread assuming that Idra won >_>

Suprised, I am.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 15 2010 16:54 GMT
#22
seems like a nice guy.. liked his answers.

but idra losing tt
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 15 2010 16:58 GMT
#23
Now we got all our eggs in TLO's basket
kadaver_BB
Profile Joined May 2010
55 Posts
September 15 2010 16:58 GMT
#24
I am sure the idralisk will return with a vengeance though :D
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
September 15 2010 16:59 GMT
#25
On September 16 2010 01:58 Chairman Ray wrote:
Now we got all our eggs in TLO's basket


Yeah. hopely next season will be better for the foreigners/Idra!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Anfere
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada231 Posts
September 15 2010 17:00 GMT
#26
Idra's plays are so obvious. Anyone going against Idra already knows that he will never attack you early, that he will power drone and try to expand a bunch, it's like knowing exactly minute by minute the build order of you'r opponent.

I'm really disappointed he didn't get to variate his play a little bit to adapt as we saw all the people in the GSL are doing. Fast reaction and adapting you play to counter the opponents is the basics of a strategy game. Playing blindly like he did today isn't what a strategy game is.

Lotze just showed the intelligence and the brain needed to reach the top. Skill is important, but brainless mechanical playstyle will get owned by a smart opponent even if this opponent is less ''uber macro'' or what ever.
Immortal or no Immortal, that is the question ! Someone give me a hamlet skull !
Back
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
September 15 2010 17:06 GMT
#27
What a pleasant fellow. Just from this small interview I'm hoping to see much more of him.
ToeJam
Profile Joined April 2009
United States282 Posts
September 15 2010 17:09 GMT
#28
On September 16 2010 02:00 Anfere wrote:
Idra's plays are so obvious. Anyone going against Idra already knows that he will never attack you early, that he will power drone and try to expand a bunch, it's like knowing exactly minute by minute the build order of you'r opponent.

I'm really disappointed he didn't get to variate his play a little bit to adapt as we saw all the people in the GSL are doing. Fast reaction and adapting you play to counter the opponents is the basics of a strategy game. Playing blindly like he did today isn't what a strategy game is.

Lotze just showed the intelligence and the brain needed to reach the top. Skill is important, but brainless mechanical playstyle will get owned by a smart opponent even if this opponent is less ''uber macro'' or what ever.


Brainless mechanical playstyle only works with terran I don't know why Idra thinks Zerg fits his playstyle

GL to him next season, though. g0g0 TLO!
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 17:12:06
September 15 2010 17:10 GMT
#29
On September 16 2010 02:00 Anfere wrote:
I'm really disappointed he didn't get to variate his play a little bit to adapt as we saw all the people in the GSL are doing. Fast reaction and adapting you play to counter the opponents is the basics of a strategy game. Playing blindly like he did today isn't what a strategy game is.

Idra's tactics and unit compositions have been varying a lot over the past month. Last time I heard about his ZvP, he teched straight from speedlings into hydras and then mutas/ultras. Now we're seeing burrowed speed roaches, drops, and roach/hydra unit mixes with corrupters.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a consistent and strong macro player. I see no reason for him to change what is likely the strongest part of his zerg play by far.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 15 2010 17:10 GMT
#30
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.

Teamliquid actually respects Idra as a player

if you want haters - starcraftarena.net
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 15 2010 17:15 GMT
#31
I hate when people use the term metagame.
Dead girls don't say no.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 15 2010 17:15 GMT
#32
Damnit i don't like zergs losing T_T especially not the best ones.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
September 15 2010 17:17 GMT
#33
Cool guy, the more information about the GSl players the better! Thumbs up.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 15 2010 17:20 GMT
#34
Go Cool...
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
September 15 2010 17:21 GMT
#35
On September 16 2010 02:10 DarkspearTribe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 01:33 fabiano wrote:
On September 16 2010 01:28 tbrown47 wrote:
Congratulations Lotze, now like 90% of the TL population loves you -.-


Fixed.

Milkis, you are like our direct link to the korean news, we should build a huge statue in your honor.

Also, I'm glad to see the koreans taking over. My only exception is TLO because he is amazing.

Teamliquid actually respects Idra as a player

if you want haters - starcraftarena.net


So I shall edit my horrible mistake.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
September 15 2010 17:22 GMT
#36
People should play anticipating anything that may possibly be thrown at them. They should not depend on match history of the opponent for their strategy. That can either be a success, or as seen now, just as well bite you in the ass.
JQL
Profile Joined July 2010
United States214 Posts
September 15 2010 17:26 GMT
#37
sorry for idra, better luck next time.
no way
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
September 15 2010 17:26 GMT
#38
Now I'm all for being fair and balanced, but some part of me really wants Lotze to contract testicular cancer. Jus' sayin'.

User was warned for this post
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
September 15 2010 17:28 GMT
#39
Amazing games, i'm sad IdrA didn't win but i'm sure he will never forget to scout again :D either way the first and 3rd game were bejujular
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
September 15 2010 17:28 GMT
#40
I like that idra got beat by someone that wasn't terran. No excuses now imo.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
16:00
Berry Patch Open #3
RotterdaM1124
TKL 259
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1124
TKL 259
CosmosSc2 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17728
Calm 2401
Mini 127
White-Ra 120
actioN 115
firebathero 80
Soulkey 71
Hyun 31
TT1 31
Yoon 9
League of Legends
Doublelift247
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor310
MindelVK8
Other Games
gofns29782
Liquid`RaSZi2393
Grubby2249
mouzStarbuck448
PiGStarcraft284
IndyStarCraft 211
KnowMe177
Mew2King57
summit1g0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1254
BasetradeTV64
angryscii14
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH390
• StrangeGG 48
• Adnapsc2 8
• Reevou 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1567
• WagamamaTV377
• Shiphtur213
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 59m
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
14h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
1d 14h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Escore
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.