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Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
September 14 2010 00:08 GMT
#81
The Fun part is that non of those Terran players would even be on considered some of the best in the world if they where playing other races. A decent macro \ micro coupled with a good understanding of builds and some practice will get you that far as Terran. No talent required.
Dead girls don't say no.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 14 2010 00:08 GMT
#82
nerf the marauder and make tanks overkill. problem solved.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 14 2010 00:11 GMT
#83
On September 14 2010 04:48 Ghazwan wrote:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/789458

Top 20:
#- Name- Race - W/L
1- Select - T - 366/152
2- Fenix - T - 210/94
3- Huk - P - 254/90
4- qxc - T - 205/76
5- Blendio - T - 491/308
6- Murder - T - 188/80
7- Painuser - T - 188/81
8- Silver - T - 233/118
9- TTone - P - 359/186
10- Katari - P - 263/141
11- kOre - Z - 207/104
12- KiWiKaKi - P - 169/60
13- REBUKED - T - 503/368
14- Masq - T - 149/84
15- Gretorp - T - 160/99
16- Stalife - T - 322/199
17- linko - T - 241/171
18 - AlLaboUtyOu - T - 374/275
19- KawaiiRice - T - 153/67
20- HasHe - T - 436/324


15 T, 4 P, 1 Z in top 20.


and the 1 zerg is korean wow.

:S select's a beast tho
Worm104
Profile Joined May 2010
England28 Posts
September 14 2010 00:38 GMT
#84
What would happen if they insta-promoted all the Terrans 1 league. Then they would be playing against players better than them and hence should return to a more realistic win ratio as it will be balanced out by their "race advantage".

Also, there are no Random players in the top 20.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 00:43:54
September 14 2010 00:43 GMT
#85
oh god this thread reeks of whining

blizzard please release the patch already, or stop feeding the plebians this shit
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#86
On September 14 2010 04:53 Shika wrote:
"11- kOre - Z - 207/104" is PhoenixWeRRa (korean zerg, he's got a stream here on TL) playing on kOre's account.


so what you're saying is there's actually no NA zergs in the top 20

damn, you NA people really need to start saccing ovies and using nydus worms

+ Show Spoiler +
im jk relax
WilliamDecker
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada43 Posts
September 14 2010 01:06 GMT
#87
On September 14 2010 08:28 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 07:59 illumination wrote:
congrats to phoenixwerra he is like the black guy in a graduate level computer science (aka me). Switch to terran plz i dont think zerg will be fixed until ATLEAST HotS so dont lose out on tourny money.


LOL, i had a black friend in computer science (undergrad). he was on the basketball team while the rest of the class(minus me!) were geeks. fun times.


Minus you? Then what are you doing on the internet posting on a thread about overpowered video game races?

Make roaches 1 supply again for like a week or so.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 14 2010 01:09 GMT
#88
It's funny that the number one on the korean server is actually a Zerg :D
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 01:14:56
September 14 2010 01:14 GMT
#89
no currently Zerg is Nr3, and a Terran named Smile is ranked 1.
A Man chooses, a slave obeys
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
September 14 2010 01:24 GMT
#90
I have decided to take a break from SC2 for a week, the Terran, IT BURNS.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 14 2010 01:35 GMT
#91
lol, anyone else notice on the top 200 page, in the "Top 200" text at the top is a big Terran symbol?

seems appropriate
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 14 2010 01:54 GMT
#92
Back in beta, we knew this will happen.
I remember someone pointing out that Terran lack representation in beta tournaments, and someone else(tester maybe?) said all terran need are good players to start playing the race, and they will dominate.

Tanks being so powerful existed in beta - even before the tank "buff"(hp wise).
Marauders too.

A little disappointed at blizzard for the slow fix - this is getting a little out of control. And I know, I know that 1.1 given the current proposed set of changes wouldn't fix the problem. +5s to reapers? Will that truly make 5rax (soon to be 6rax?) reaper less deadly of an opening vs zerg? Would 4 marauders still snipe a spire in just 8 seconds with stim and make most gateway units almost useless w/o upgrades? Is the tank nerf really a nerf... - why is terran the only race capable of creating ground zero? Will medivac stop granting terran unit god mode status?

A lot of people answer that you need "more skill" to win in XvT. Using things like... terrain and flank to your advantage to counter the terran army. But such mechanics can too be used by a terran player. If PhoenixWeRRa is to play terran, the #1+2 spots on NA ladder might be dominated by koreans.

If there are truly ideas and tactics in which we have not yet discovered - I would like to see blizzard enlighten us.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 14 2010 03:02 GMT
#93
It'd be so much more interesting if people discussed players and not races.

btw I'm gonna be #1 on the next ranking
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 14 2010 05:06 GMT
#94
On September 14 2010 12:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
It'd be so much more interesting if people discussed players and not races.

btw I'm gonna be #1 on the next ranking


nice!
illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
September 14 2010 05:14 GMT
#95
On September 14 2010 12:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
It'd be so much more interesting if people discussed players and not races.

btw I'm gonna be #1 on the next ranking

How do you discuss players? Racial imbalance is part of the player so you cant really separate them. I guess you can have one of those idra videos where he bms everyone but we know how those go... W.E i guess ill start. Silver has like 90 apm and is just bad at the game but hes a top player now. That was much more productive!
Welcome to TL - Where Terran have been teaching the Zerg / Toss pros how to play since Patch 11
nka203
Profile Joined May 2010
United States102 Posts
September 14 2010 05:18 GMT
#96
i think marauders are the only unit that need any kind of nerf.. but i guess theyr not gona do it yet
i love cake
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
September 14 2010 05:25 GMT
#97
On September 14 2010 14:14 illumination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 12:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
It'd be so much more interesting if people discussed players and not races.

btw I'm gonna be #1 on the next ranking

How do you discuss players? Racial imbalance is part of the player so you cant really separate them. I guess you can have one of those idra videos where he bms everyone but we know how those go... W.E i guess ill start. Silver has like 90 apm and is just bad at the game but hes a top player now. That was much more productive!


What about blendio?? wasn't he a former bw pro in korea? he has like avg 85 apm but he can still do 5 marauder drops at the same time!

Grats blendio on rank 5 of all NA! Well deserved
I cant stop lactating
illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
September 14 2010 05:32 GMT
#98
On September 14 2010 14:25 _Darwin_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 14:14 illumination wrote:
On September 14 2010 12:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
It'd be so much more interesting if people discussed players and not races.

btw I'm gonna be #1 on the next ranking

How do you discuss players? Racial imbalance is part of the player so you cant really separate them. I guess you can have one of those idra videos where he bms everyone but we know how those go... W.E i guess ill start. Silver has like 90 apm and is just bad at the game but hes a top player now. That was much more productive!


What about blendio?? wasn't he a former bw pro in korea? he has like avg 85 apm but he can still do 5 marauder drops at the same time!

Grats blendio on rank 5 of all NA! Well deserved

Good point.... EXCEPT Silver cant do that. I also said he was bad at the game. He dosent scout he allins all the time. And APM does matter. Nada said that the lowest apm to be pro in sc1 was like 250. Its a simple fact that there are more things to do in the game than 85 apm can cover so... To not turn this thread into an apm discussion lets talk shit on more players like nony suggested I think drewbie is terrible but he won more than kiwikaki, TT1, and WhiteRa. All of those players have an imperssive rts background (esp. Whitera). Yet they lose more often than Drewbie. Interesting.
Welcome to TL - Where Terran have been teaching the Zerg / Toss pros how to play since Patch 11
link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 05:44:43
September 14 2010 05:39 GMT
#99
Kore/PheonixWerra completely spanked me Z v T. I didn't even make any real mistakes. I seriously do not know how to beat his style of Z v T. That guy is a beast.

IMO, Z just requires the highest skill to be in the top 20, but Z is probably only barely UP at the pro-level.



And here, you still have people who are no where near the top 200 complaining about imbalances they have no understanding of. If you are even semi-good, there is absolutely no excuse you can't even make it to the top 200 with Zerg.
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MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
September 14 2010 05:51 GMT
#100
On September 14 2010 14:39 link0 wrote:
Kore/PheonixWerra completely spanked me Z v T. I didn't even make any real mistakes. I seriously do not know how to beat his style of Z v T. That guy is a beast.

IMO, Z just requires the highest skill to be in the top 20, but Z is probably only barely UP at the pro-level.



And here, you still have people who are no where near the top 200 complaining about imbalances they have no understanding of. If you are even semi-good, there is absolutely no excuse you can't even make it to the top 200 with Zerg.

what is his style?
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