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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
September 13 2010 22:40 GMT
#61
On September 14 2010 07:04 Redmark wrote:
people realize that there's a patch coming out that will nerf Terran, right? just saying.
and don't say 'it doesn't nerf Terran enough', there's something called caution and successful companies usually have it


Yah this patch is clearly a fix-all for the entire game. I can imagine someone on the testing team was like "Hey guys it appears TvZ is not balanced, we should increase the time it takes to make zealots. That should fix it."

.....
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
September 13 2010 22:41 GMT
#62
One thing to note, terran is strong, this is definitely true. But if there is a extreme perception that this is the case, more players will switch over to terran, thus further creating this dynamic of terran at the top.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
September 13 2010 22:41 GMT
#63
white people can't play zerg.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
September 13 2010 22:43 GMT
#64
On September 14 2010 04:56 infinity21 wrote:
Can you show the top 70 list so I can feel good?

Hahaha but now that schools started will you have time to play? lol
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SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
September 13 2010 22:45 GMT
#65
Rank #95 =)
hhrn
Profile Joined May 2010
157 Posts
September 13 2010 22:47 GMT
#66
Nooo PsY D:
CHosEN
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 13 2010 22:48 GMT
#67
On September 14 2010 05:22 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 05:07 Kaymeerah wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/641956#blog

Meh, more Zergs on the top 20 here in EU.

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/blog/320559

Even more Zergs.. Protoss is actually lacking there.

I believe this both has to do with NA being sucky with Zerg and a little bit overtune for Terran.


2 Zerg players is still not a good ratio.

7 Zerg is exactly where it should be, but T is still dominant over Protoss, making this more of a multirealm problem.

Well if you notice, the Zergs have played a significantly bigger amount of games then other races in top 20 on korean server, otherwise they wouldnt be there.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
September 13 2010 22:49 GMT
#68
I feel pretty good as a zerg player right now. Im not failing horribly, but once the patch comes out all zergs players would hit a pretty high point because they delt with being the underpowered race.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 13 2010 22:53 GMT
#69
On September 14 2010 07:49 VirtuallyLost wrote:
I feel pretty good as a zerg player right now. Im not failing horribly, but once the patch comes out all zergs players would hit a pretty high point because they delt with being the underpowered race.

Unless you lose every game to 5 rax reaper and 2 gate it won't make much of a difference.
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
September 13 2010 22:54 GMT
#70
So when is the patch coming out?
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illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
September 13 2010 22:59 GMT
#71
congrats to phoenixwerra he is like the black guy in a graduate level computer science (aka me). Switch to terran plz i dont think zerg will be fixed until ATLEAST HotS so dont lose out on tourny money.
Welcome to TL - Where Terran have been teaching the Zerg / Toss pros how to play since Patch 11
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 23:01:52
September 13 2010 23:00 GMT
#72
Kore is not a NA player technically as someone else used the account. Technically there is no Zerg in the top 20 in NA.

EDIT: Finally, I make the cut!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 13 2010 23:13 GMT
#73
On September 14 2010 07:59 illumination wrote:
congrats to phoenixwerra he is like the black guy in a graduate level computer science (aka me). Switch to terran plz i dont think zerg will be fixed until ATLEAST HotS so dont lose out on tourny money.

ahaha well said lol
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 13 2010 23:26 GMT
#74
On September 14 2010 06:22 Klockan3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 05:57 iEchoic wrote:
On September 14 2010 05:22 Acritter wrote:
On September 14 2010 05:07 Kaymeerah wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/641956#blog

Meh, more Zergs on the top 20 here in EU.

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/blog/320559

Even more Zergs.. Protoss is actually lacking there.

I believe this both has to do with NA being sucky with Zerg and a little bit overtune for Terran.


2 Zerg players is still not a good ratio.

7 Zerg is exactly where it should be, but T is still dominant over Protoss, making this more of a multirealm problem.


What? You think that the least-played race should have over 1/3 of the representation? Okay.

Actually if it was balanced it doesn't really matter how popular the options are, at the top levels it will be quite equal anyways. The reason is that if there are really few zergs the terrans would have much less experience playing against top zergs than the zerg players have against top terrans giving top zergs a huge advantage in that matchup. As an example look at fencing, in top fencing left handed people are extremely overrepresented, it is not because it is an advantage but because they get more training against right handed people than right handed people got training against them, and it is of course totally balanced as well.

And the disparage between how many are left and right handed is much greater than between terran/zerg.
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 06:12 Carthage wrote:
Now, can someone please explain to me why having a small number of zerg at the top represents imbalance? Seems like there would have to be NO zerg at the top to truly say that.

Skill ceiling is still very far from being reached in any matchup.


good post, thanks
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 13 2010 23:28 GMT
#75
On September 14 2010 07:59 illumination wrote:
congrats to phoenixwerra he is like the black guy in a graduate level computer science (aka me). Switch to terran plz i dont think zerg will be fixed until ATLEAST HotS so dont lose out on tourny money.


LOL, i had a black friend in computer science (undergrad). he was on the basketball team while the rest of the class(minus me!) were geeks. fun times.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
September 13 2010 23:37 GMT
#76
On September 14 2010 07:53 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 07:49 VirtuallyLost wrote:
I feel pretty good as a zerg player right now. Im not failing horribly, but once the patch comes out all zergs players would hit a pretty high point because they delt with being the underpowered race.

Unless you lose every game to 5 rax reaper and 2 gate it won't make much of a difference.


I don't think the patches stop with 1.1. The 1.1 patch is rather miniscule to the other zerg patches that will (hopefully) come out.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 13 2010 23:41 GMT
#77
lol at the disparity in games played.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
September 13 2010 23:41 GMT
#78
On September 14 2010 08:37 VirtuallyLost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 07:53 Slayer91 wrote:
On September 14 2010 07:49 VirtuallyLost wrote:
I feel pretty good as a zerg player right now. Im not failing horribly, but once the patch comes out all zergs players would hit a pretty high point because they delt with being the underpowered race.

Unless you lose every game to 5 rax reaper and 2 gate it won't make much of a difference.


I don't think the patches stop with 1.1. The 1.1 patch is rather miniscule to the other zerg patches that will (hopefully) come out.


Yeah, these fake patches are gonna be huge for Zerg.
Seriously, though, I think the tank nerf and reaper time nerf will be enough for Zerg to be good. Hydralisks will be seen in TvZ again!
kTwo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States16 Posts
September 13 2010 23:43 GMT
#79
1 zerg *slow clap*
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
September 14 2010 00:06 GMT
#80
4 zerg in the top 30
9 toss in the top 30
AND 17 TERRAN!
WTF!?!?
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