Did KeSPA cancel TLO vs Nada at IEM? - Page 18

On August 22 2010 02:49 shlomo wrote:
Better save that stream before it gets pulled off for some mystery reason.

On August 22 2010 02:45 cybrodroid wrote:


Just to warn. It's not my stream. The guy has some technical difficulties with that octo crap at a rather inopportune time and throws up the stream of the stream on TL.

On August 22 2010 02:49 Jimmeh wrote:


Not entirely sure what PPP stands for (I read discussions about it before and no one seemed to have a definitive answer), but it essentially means "pause the game please" and is used when a player is having technical difficulty generally.

On August 22 2010 02:45 schisch wrote:
why the hell should he say ppp? what does it even mean?

On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)

On August 22 2010 02:50 Tiax;mous wrote:

correct me if i'm wrong but as far as i know esl is not a fan of personal streams of their own stream. so maybe someone should record/download it , cut tlo vs nada part and torrent / rapid it. hmm where is my video edit tools again....

On August 22 2010 02:38 attackfighter wrote:
I think there's more reason to trust NaDa's team then some random casters (or whoever started the rumour), if wemade/kespa didn't want nada attending the event they wouldn't have given him permission in the first place. kinda dumb to think they'd risk causing anomosity between them and their customers

On August 22 2010 01:35 Milkis wrote:
http://www.gesomoon.com/zboard/zboard.php?id=ECT&no=12448

Koreans are translating what you guys say, fyi :3

On August 22 2010 02:44 iCCup.Diamond wrote:

The problem is NaDa's team's story does not make any sense. Again he would have said "ppp" instead of "gg".

That only happened after Blizz partnered with GOM and KESPA freaked out.

On August 22 2010 02:56 Alexstrasas wrote:
OK! So i actualy skimmed through the thread and i have to point out that ppl should really refrain from creating super elaborated opinions about stuff that is basicly speculation.
There are many sides to this and unless all facts are known is just pointless to rage much about it.

I think its pretty strange that the "plug was pulled" at game 3 after that TLO harass, and i think it makes the scenario of Nada throwing that towel more plausible than somewere at kespas facilities someone commenting during cofee breake "Hey Nada should be playing now at ESL" and the CEO: "WHAAAAT ???? PULL THE PLUG NOW!!!!!"


Now if they indeed pulled the plug i dont get why like 3-4 pages of the thread is ppl discussing "legal" issues like big time lawyers as if Nada was to somehow sue Kespa for not letting him play, also i dont get why this same ppl were commenting a contract between Kespa and Esl when it states in the update on the game vods that officialy Kespa didnt even allow the match. So basicly a good portion of the thread is people discussing stuff taken out of thin air.

So imo this only further supports that they didnt actualy pull the plug because they would just forbid him to play otherwise, and i doubt they would not know that their best player is showmatching until mid game 3.

Now seeing as ppl started to offtopic i´ll talk abit too.

In my opinion the gaming situation in Korean its not really that uber like many of you believe, so much so that it might be aswell the dark side of pro gaming.

There are numerous documentaries on the situation of the "younger" layers of starcraft players and in parallel the MMO gold farmers a.k.a chinese farmers (yes a big chunk of them is actualy korean), were they basicly get explored living all bundled up together with other kids playing games 24/07.
This is one side effect of the "progaming" scene that grew in korea and imo is somehow a reflection of how that type of "scene" is far from ideal.

While it is true that Kespa did alot for the the esports in korea, korea itself is something different, they love their starcraft for some reason and it was bound to be big there, and while Kespa did create the infrastructures for it to thrive it also greatly benefited from it so much that if there was no Kespa, Korea would still produce huge players but without korean player and enthusiasm for the game Kespa would never even be 1/10 th as big (aka if they were situated in another country).

Overall what im saying is, Korea is a microcosmos, what they do or dont do for esports have no real impact on overall world wide e-sports unless you plan to migrate to korea, so i dont really see why kespa has so many fanboys.

Regarding Blizzard, its pretty obvious they are trying to controll the e-scene by not adding LAN, and while this is something one could understand, first the casual gamer that plays for fun also gets hit by this, for no reason at all, they could just stipulate that no private LAN tournaments can be held without their concent.
And second they didnt actualy created any special additional infrastructure for pro players.

So unless they plan on starting to pay pro players out of their own pocked heres a shoutout for Blizzard.

GIEF F*CKEN LAN AND STFU.

Also wall of text omfgwtfbbq

On August 22 2010 02:52 Catalyst wrote:

You sir are awesome, thank you kindly!

On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)