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shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
August 21 2010 17:37 GMT
#321
Latency problems sound like a cheap excuse to force nada to end the game. And even though i'm new to the whole starcraft scene this reeks like some bigger institution giving the order to pull the plug.
Statements by the ESL manager and some other sources seem to confirm this KESPA involvement.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:38:37
August 21 2010 17:38 GMT
#322
Yeah NaDa wouldn't have GG'd out of a showmatch so soon, but really TLO had that game in the bag, and it was the last in the series. So... yeah.

edit: And latency has nothing to do with it. There was a DC in the first game and it was replayed.
cybrodroid
Profile Joined August 2010
United States6 Posts
August 21 2010 17:38 GMT
#323
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)
can't sleep, clown'll eat me
attackfighter
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada308 Posts
August 21 2010 17:38 GMT
#324
I think there's more reason to trust NaDa's team then some random casters (or whoever started the rumour), if wemade/kespa didn't want nada attending the event they wouldn't have given him permission in the first place. kinda dumb to think they'd risk causing anomosity between them and their customers

On August 21 2010 19:58 Cedstick wrote:
KeSPA has a bad attitude against the people who own the original rights to Starcraft and actually created the game. I don't care how much they've put in to the eSports community, they've been huge dicks about control, shutting down GOM streaming Brood War and trying to win the game's rights. They deserve it, and they're just butt-hurt now.


iirc pro gaming teams agreed to stop attending the GOM classic thing, for various reasons (it was poorly done, they wanted to only have to focus on MSL/OSL, etc.)
_magik
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands146 Posts
August 21 2010 17:38 GMT
#325
On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)

Awesome. Thanks a bunch!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:39:28
August 21 2010 17:38 GMT
#326
I love how completely unafraid they are to lie about it.

(assuming kespa or wemade is... which i suspect kespa probably is)
baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
August 21 2010 17:39 GMT
#327
On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)


You, sir, are a winner. Thanks.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 21 2010 17:40 GMT
#328
On August 22 2010 02:38 attackfighter wrote:
I think there's more reason to trust NaDa's team then some random casters (or whoever started the rumour), if wemade/kespa didn't want nada attending the event they wouldn't have given him permission in the first place. kinda dumb to think they'd risk causing anomosity between them and their customers

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On August 21 2010 19:58 Cedstick wrote:
KeSPA has a bad attitude against the people who own the original rights to Starcraft and actually created the game. I don't care how much they've put in to the eSports community, they've been huge dicks about control, shutting down GOM streaming Brood War and trying to win the game's rights. They deserve it, and they're just butt-hurt now.


iirc pro gaming teams agreed to stop attending the GOM classic thing, for various reasons (it was poorly done, they wanted to only have to focus on MSL/OSL, etc.)

he was at the conference to promote a game WeMade made.
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nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
August 21 2010 17:40 GMT
#329
On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)


thanks.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
August 21 2010 17:41 GMT
#330
Is anyone else just sad that it has to come to this? I mean poor TLO he got the chance to play against one of the great Legends of BW and doesn't get to properly complete the game. This is just such a blow to not only us the spectators but I bet Dario must be a bit upset by it too.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
August 21 2010 17:41 GMT
#331
Are we expected to believe that Nada himself chose to abruptly end the match because of "network issues" and because it would be "difficult" to conclude the match? And romurs that KeSPA did something very KeSPA like materialized out of nothing? Fomos just insulted my intelligence. >:[
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 21 2010 17:41 GMT
#332
On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)


Dude you just made my day. Get off work in 20 mins than when I get home I'm going to be watching this!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
August 21 2010 17:42 GMT
#333
On August 22 2010 02:38 _magik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)

Awesome. Thanks a bunch!


Dear god I love you
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 21 2010 17:44 GMT
#334
On August 22 2010 02:38 attackfighter wrote:
I think there's more reason to trust NaDa's team then some random casters (or whoever started the rumour), if wemade/kespa didn't want nada attending the event they wouldn't have given him permission in the first place. kinda dumb to think they'd risk causing anomosity between them and their customers


The problem is NaDa's team's story does not make any sense. Again he would have said "ppp" instead of "gg".


iirc pro gaming teams agreed to stop attending the GOM classic thing, for various reasons (it was poorly done, they wanted to only have to focus on MSL/OSL, etc.)


That only happened after Blizz partnered with GOM and KESPA freaked out.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
schisch
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany123 Posts
August 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#335
why the hell should he say ppp? what does it even mean?

cybrodroid
Profile Joined August 2010
United States6 Posts
August 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#336
On August 22 2010 02:38 cybrodroid wrote:
I'll just leave this here.

http://livestre.am/kHKN (skip to 40 min)


Just to warn. It's not my stream. The guy has some technical difficulties with that octo crap at a rather inopportune time and throws up the stream of the stream on TL.
can't sleep, clown'll eat me
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 21 2010 17:48 GMT
#337
All I have to say is this: FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU. Be it shitty Bnet2.0 or ultra-controllin Kespa, this is just gay.

But thanks to the guy who posted that link
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
August 21 2010 17:49 GMT
#338
On August 22 2010 02:45 schisch wrote:
why the hell should he say ppp? what does it even mean?



Not entirely sure what PPP stands for (I read discussions about it before and no one seemed to have a definitive answer), but it essentially means "pause the game please" and is used when a player is having technical difficulty generally.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
August 21 2010 17:49 GMT
#339
Better save that stream before it gets pulled off for some mystery reason.
Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
August 21 2010 17:49 GMT
#340
yo dawg i hear you like streams--
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