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On August 21 2010 08:45 muzzy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 07:07 zak wrote: alright nice deal but wtf...the most bottom left key is not ctrl!!!!!! i use ctrl like crazy in sc2 and I've tried boards with FN on the bottom left corner and also Mac boards with the Apple key on the bottom left.
for me that is a dealbreaker. Apple keyboards have "Control" in the same spot as PC keyboards. "Alt" on a Mac keyboard is the "Apple" key.
No, Apple keyboards have Control and Alt keys in the same place as they are on a normal keyboard. The "Apple" (Command) key replaces the Windows key.
EDIT: Wow, I did not realize that post was on page 1 of 5 and was so old. Sorry for the random response everyone!
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On October 11 2010 07:40 SoaDMTGguy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 08:45 muzzy wrote:On August 21 2010 07:07 zak wrote: alright nice deal but wtf...the most bottom left key is not ctrl!!!!!! i use ctrl like crazy in sc2 and I've tried boards with FN on the bottom left corner and also Mac boards with the Apple key on the bottom left.
for me that is a dealbreaker. Apple keyboards have "Control" in the same spot as PC keyboards. "Alt" on a Mac keyboard is the "Apple" key. No, Apple keyboards have Control and Alt keys in the same place as they are on a normal keyboard. The "Apple" (Command) key replaces the Windows key. EDIT: Wow, I did not realize that post was on page 1 of 5 and was so old. Sorry for the random response everyone!
Its probably still relevant as this keyboard comes closer to being released, most people dont know what they are getting with a mechanical keyboard and the competitors.
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I have the steel series 7g. It's amazing. You really should get it. From people I have known that have had razer keyboards they don't last a long time. The 7g is designed to be the only keyboard you will ever need again.
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Check out FILCO keyboards from elitekeyboards.com. They feature 3 Cherry MX switches (Blue, Brown and Black), not just Razer's Blue (which isn't even true blue? I think they adjusted the actuation point). A lot of people have been diggin' Cherry MX Browns for RTS as of late, including myself.
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On October 11 2010 08:09 Aberu wrote: I have the steel series 7g. It's amazing. You really should get it. From people I have known that have had razer keyboards they don't last a long time. The 7g is designed to be the only keyboard you will ever need again.
I hope so I just bought the 6gv2 and it should be coming in a few days. I didn't like the backspace on the 7g. :D
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Why does that keyboard have that weird name o.O
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the steelseries 6gv2 is awesome. It's a 7g without the useless stuff. You can find 20% off coupon codes/sales from steelseries every now and then. I got mine for 83 shipped
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$129 for a keyboard....LMAO
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On October 11 2010 08:55 Dragosh wrote: Why does that keyboard have that weird name o.O
razer names their mice after snakes and keyboards after spiders.
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On October 11 2010 02:11 ckw wrote:This stuff's not at all worth what they ask imo, I use cheap ass stuff and a Microsoft Intelligent 3.0 mouse. It's not like if I spend 150$ on the keyboard and another 100 on the mouse I am going to be better... Waste of money if you ask me. Although they are nice pieces of gear so if they knocked off the 100$ + profit they get after making these things for about 1$ then I would consider it. 
On October 11 2010 09:10 divertiti wrote: $129 for a keyboard....LMAO
Clearly you haven't used one of them before. And it costs much more to make a mechanical keyboard using individual switches and a metal back-plate than to make a membrane keyboard with 1 sheet of rubber, hence the reason manufacturers switched over to producing membrane keyboards in the 90s.
The same thing happened to LCD's, they used to come with high quality IPS panels, but now almost everything sold uses cheap TN panels since the average Joe doesn't care about his equipment as long as it functions.
I brought my filco to a LAN last weekend and made elitekeyboards 3 easy sales. Don't knock something until you try it.
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On October 11 2010 09:44 onemoretry wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 02:11 ckw wrote:This stuff's not at all worth what they ask imo, I use cheap ass stuff and a Microsoft Intelligent 3.0 mouse. It's not like if I spend 150$ on the keyboard and another 100 on the mouse I am going to be better... Waste of money if you ask me. Although they are nice pieces of gear so if they knocked off the 100$ + profit they get after making these things for about 1$ then I would consider it.  Clearly you haven't used one of them before. And it costs much more to make a mechanical keyboard using individual switches and a metal back-plate than to make a membrane keyboard with 1 sheet of rubber, hence the reason manufacturers switched over to producing membrane keyboards in the 90s. The same thing happened to LCD's, they used to come with high quality IPS panels, but now almost everything sold uses cheap TN panels since the average Joe doesn't care about his equipment as long as it functions. I brought my filco to a LAN last weekend and made elitekeyboards 3 easy sales. Don't knock something until you try it.
I doesn't matter how much it costs, it's a keyboard, what else would I care about other than its functionality? Unlike a IPS panel which produce better pictures or a better quality mouse that provides better tracking and accuracy, what does this keyboard provide? Does it make you tap the keys any faster? more accurate? What exactly is its benefit over alternatives that are less than 5% of its price?
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On October 11 2010 10:35 divertiti wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 09:44 onemoretry wrote:On October 11 2010 02:11 ckw wrote:This stuff's not at all worth what they ask imo, I use cheap ass stuff and a Microsoft Intelligent 3.0 mouse. It's not like if I spend 150$ on the keyboard and another 100 on the mouse I am going to be better... Waste of money if you ask me. Although they are nice pieces of gear so if they knocked off the 100$ + profit they get after making these things for about 1$ then I would consider it.  On October 11 2010 09:10 divertiti wrote: $129 for a keyboard....LMAO Clearly you haven't used one of them before. And it costs much more to make a mechanical keyboard using individual switches and a metal back-plate than to make a membrane keyboard with 1 sheet of rubber, hence the reason manufacturers switched over to producing membrane keyboards in the 90s. The same thing happened to LCD's, they used to come with high quality IPS panels, but now almost everything sold uses cheap TN panels since the average Joe doesn't care about his equipment as long as it functions. I brought my filco to a LAN last weekend and made elitekeyboards 3 easy sales. Don't knock something until you try it. I doesn't matter how much it costs, it's a keyboard, what else would I care about other than its functionality? Unlike a IPS panel which produce better pictures or a better quality mouse that provides better tracking and accuracy, what does this keyboard provide? Does it make you tap the keys any faster? more accurate? What exactly is its benefit over alternatives that are less than 5% of its price?
From elitekeyboards.com (the retailers of filcos in the united states):
- What is a mechanical switch keyboard? Most keyboards that either come with a computer for free these days or are purchased for next to nothing at the local computer mart use inexpensive "rubber dome" or "membrane" contacts under the keys that have a mushy feel, lack tactile feedback, and must be fully depressed in order to be detected. The result can be an uncomfortable and tiring typing experience. Mechanical keyboards on the other hand utilize an individual mechanical switch underneath each key that provides consistent actuation. Such switches are usually only used for industrial applications due to their price. The benefit of these mechanical switches is comfort, increased typing speeds, and lifetime. Mechanical switches are rated for millions of key presses. In its lifetime a high quality mechanical switch based keyboard will provide a reliable and pleasurable typing experience for a long time to come, outliving several cheaper keyboards.
One can also make an argument that for many people, you spend the majority of your day hacking away at a keyboard. So you might as well buy something that will last and provide optimum comfort. Same deal applies to blowing $200+ on a computer chair or desk, for example.
I definitely wasn't a believer until I actually got to try a steelseries 6gv2. Now I'm baiting myself with the promise of buying either a blackwidow or a filco once I finish a major paper I've been working on for awhile now. >_<
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I bought a BlackWidow and have been using it for about a week now. I must say, I love it. It's a rock solid keyboard.
BTW, the switches are blue switches, pretty sure.
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I suggest the logitech g110. Great keyboard.
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On August 21 2010 07:01 kGold wrote: hmm I wonder if this will be a change to Razer's previous history of making very bad and overly expensive keyboards. I have never used a mechanical keyboard before, does anyone know of any other keyboards out there that are popular and mechanical?
I just picked up an Enermax Aurora premium because it has a slick, aluminum look to it and the keys are scissor-type like a laptop, but not crappy like most of the other scissor-type keyboards out there. Too bad the backspace is small, but thats my only complaint.
My beef with this razer keyboard actually is the macro keys. I hate those, it really throws me off having extra keys on the side of the keyboard where my left hand is. I align myself according to the standard left-most keys, that is Escape, tab, ctrl.
Go check out the new steelseries one, it is much better.
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imho small enter key = auto lose
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