• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:21
CEST 00:21
KST 07:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!37Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 GSTL Announcement Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
Your past clans BW General Discussion BCA KCU A. YANI Telp:08218200233 ASL22 General Discussion BCA KCU BANDUNG Tlp:08218154374
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament - Season 3 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7368 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 85

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 83 84 85 86 87 2731 Next
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
October 17 2010 10:40 GMT
#1681
"Rebuttal?" "Protoss."

Oh man I love SotG. djWHEAT was a little too serious for the environment I feel, though I like him in WoC I think SotG requires a different approach.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
holde
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany11 Posts
October 17 2010 10:58 GMT
#1682
whats the link for the stream again?
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 17 2010 11:17 GMT
#1683
On October 17 2010 19:19 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow that podcast was sweet.

Incontrol finally lost all reality.
Korea vs Foreigners. Foreigners would stand a chance 20 on 20? Hahaha good joke.

Can you even name 20 foreigners playing good at the moment? There's no excuses remember.
1.TLO
2.IdrA
3.Huk
4.qxc
5.Kiwikaki
6.Socke
7.Tyler?
8. Morrow?
9...........Uhhhh already getting tough

And how can he get away with saying " I THRIVE at LAN enviroments " without someone laughing.


Dimaga, Whitera, Select, Demuslim, Tarson, BRAT_OK, Fenix, atn_Darkforce, Ret.

After that it starts to get harder, but I'm SURE im missing a bunch of people though. There's PLENTY of talented people who, if practiced 7-8 hours a day for a month could contend with koreans.

The argument was if they practiced a lot, and most of them play 3-4 hours at most, unlike koreans who play 10 easily.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 17 2010 11:32 GMT
#1684
yea you can argue that the foreigners might stand a chance "if they are in the same gaming house environment and practice as much"

but IdrA did not disagree with that at all. His argument was that, very few foreigners actually practice hard ( for whaever reason, not arguing about that, we don't care) and thats why they won't be able to compete.
Damnesiac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
October 17 2010 11:44 GMT
#1685
On October 17 2010 20:17 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 19:19 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow that podcast was sweet.

Incontrol finally lost all reality.
Korea vs Foreigners. Foreigners would stand a chance 20 on 20? Hahaha good joke.

Can you even name 20 foreigners playing good at the moment? There's no excuses remember.
1.TLO
2.IdrA
3.Huk
4.qxc
5.Kiwikaki
6.Socke
7.Tyler?
8. Morrow?
9...........Uhhhh already getting tough

And how can he get away with saying " I THRIVE at LAN enviroments " without someone laughing.


Dimaga, Whitera, Select, Demuslim, Tarson, BRAT_OK, Fenix, atn_Darkforce, Ret.

After that it starts to get harder, but I'm SURE im missing a bunch of people though. There's PLENTY of talented people who, if practiced 7-8 hours a day for a month could contend with koreans.

The argument was if they practiced a lot, and most of them play 3-4 hours at most, unlike koreans who play 10 easily.

Well since IdrA is kinda bottom of the top level korean only those that would be a real threat to idra can be counted.
1.MorroW (best on paper)
2.TLO
3.Jinro
4.Haypro
5.huk
6.qxc
7.kiwi
8.demuslim
9.bratok
10.Fenix
11.Dimaga (not preforming well)
12. select ( but he cant tvz apparently)

And pretty much after that the players will decrease in skill cuz the 12 i just mentioned win pretty much every big tourny with jinro and haypro not qualifying for gsl ( not that they are bad, but we have to be objective on some level). And now for koreans

1.FruitDealer (far more successful than idra throughout all of sc2 with same race )
2.sSKS ( who rapes the shit outta everyone when he competes in foreign tourneys )
3.cliiiiiiide
not gunna name the rest because this post is getting to long but idra/TLO didnt get past ro32 so atleat16 players right there

Then consider that the korean approach is better than foreigners. Not only that but strategically they are far ahead as well. Spunky is super smart and realizes that strategy is way more important and focuses on that and they have teammates to discuss strategy and practice with, which is obviously better than ladder.

So yes incontrol is ridiculous for saying that top 20 can compare.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 11:53:07
October 17 2010 11:50 GMT
#1686
Jeff must have been really drunk when talking about korea vs the world Idra won that argument without any problems.

"And now we will start the first match in K v World: Machine vs Cool! GG already, ohhhhh....."


How many champagne bottles did they open during the cast, 2-3? Nice sound effects hehe...

Edit: A bit silly that Huk couldnt just say that he knew that ha had lost the game when select took his natural, and then just played along with the crowd and made a mothership. Like we belive that he really thought that he could win with that tactic.
I am not young enough to know everything.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 17 2010 11:51 GMT
#1687
Mothership rush discussion hahahaha love it
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 17 2010 12:07 GMT
#1688
I really don't agree with the 'bashing' of SeleCT. There are many players who stick to their build as long as it works for them. Idra plays 95% of his games with same build order, same style, it works for him, and he'll probably continue to play it as long as it works. MorroW won a major tournament with one build, once it stopped working, he moved onto another builds.

Same with SeleCT. He has a vP build that works well, and he will continue to use it until it stops working. Then he will find another build that works. HuK had a chance to watch that build being used against KiwiKaki and Tyler, and still lost to it, so I wouldn't say the only thing that is good in SeleCT's play is his build. He's a beast and I'm sure whatever build he decides to use next after this one stops working will be equally strong.

Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
October 17 2010 12:46 GMT
#1689
hmm Any info on when this state of the weapon of choice stream is supposed to go ahead? I couldn't see any info on dj wheats ste
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
October 17 2010 12:47 GMT
#1690
oh dear
thats the most hilarious SotG EVER!

i loved it
"If you can chill....chill!"
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 17 2010 12:48 GMT
#1691
Heh, Nony and Idra squaring up. I really wish Nony would put in the hours and smack Idra upside the head. Even though I'm an Idra fan, it would still be fucking a.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23340 Posts
October 17 2010 13:16 GMT
#1692
LOL NONY AND INC. Hilarious podcast.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 17 2010 13:51 GMT
#1693
Oh, and here's hoping Incontrol gets some luck and started SMASHING in tournaments soon. Really want him to do well, cos he's awesome.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 17 2010 13:56 GMT
#1694
On October 17 2010 21:07 Odoakar wrote:
I really don't agree with the 'bashing' of SeleCT. There are many players who stick to their build as long as it works for them. Idra plays 95% of his games with same build order, same style, it works for him, and he'll probably continue to play it as long as it works. MorroW won a major tournament with one build, once it stopped working, he moved onto another builds.

Same with SeleCT. He has a vP build that works well, and he will continue to use it until it stops working. Then he will find another build that works. HuK had a chance to watch that build being used against KiwiKaki and Tyler, and still lost to it, so I wouldn't say the only thing that is good in SeleCT's play is his build. He's a beast and I'm sure whatever build he decides to use next after this one stops working will be equally strong.




I totally agree. I'm sure he had other tricks up his sleeve as well. I smell a hint of jealousy.
TL+ Member
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 14:23:17
October 17 2010 14:19 GMT
#1695
anyone else having trouble loading the minicast?

I'm loading the one from thursday fine, but cant load the one from saturday V_V
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
October 17 2010 14:20 GMT
#1696
On October 17 2010 21:46 Niick wrote:
hmm Any info on when this state of the weapon of choice stream is supposed to go ahead? I couldn't see any info on dj wheats ste


I believe it's at 12 PM EDT on djwheats stream.
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9589 Posts
October 17 2010 14:21 GMT
#1697
So is there a stream tonight (sunday - 18:00 CET)? If so, can someone post the link? D:
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
October 17 2010 14:23 GMT
#1698
On October 17 2010 23:19 Burn2Memory wrote:
anyone else having trouble loading the minicast?


yeah im trying to download the second minicast but the links dead
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
October 17 2010 14:26 GMT
#1699
im having trouble :s whats wrong?
SomaliPirate
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom28 Posts
October 17 2010 14:32 GMT
#1700
yeah same problem here i wish someone who downloaded it allready could upload it again until JP sort it out when he gets home.
I Will no i ShaLL be Good In ThiS GamE
Prev 1 83 84 85 86 87 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
CSLAN Day 1
Airneanach391
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech95
FoxeR 64
StarCraft: Brood War
Bale 8
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm137
League of Legends
Doublelift5867
JimRising 322
Counter-Strike
summit1g7597
minikerr50
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr45
Other Games
gofns16196
Grubby2089
Beastyqt408
Liquid`Hasu199
Mew2King110
RotterdaM95
Livibee68
ViBE42
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1040
BasetradeTV292
angryscii20
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki68
• HerbMon 20
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Shiphtur233
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 39m
PiG Sty Festival
13h 39m
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
17h 39m
OSC
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
1d 12h
The Patches Monday
1d 17h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.