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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 17 2010 15:08 GMT
#1721
First post, just thought I'd say that I enjoy the show.

Anyway, regarding the disconnect issue whereby the game is automatically replayed unless the opponent concedes, that's actually come up in Halo a few times. For instance, last National Championship a match deciding game was ended literally a second before the game was won and the game was replayed leading to a loss for the team that would have won and then a loss for the series. The community was obviously pretty mad but MLG didn't change the rules, which have been that way since. . .2004, I think. Basically, what I'm saying is that you shouldn't expect MLG to change anything regardless of what happens or what people want. They do what they do and they know people will still attend their events and watch their streams because overall they have a great product.

Of course, MLG has never really had a lot of outside coverage like it's getting with StarCraft II so maybe they'll listen more. MLG has traditionally controlled almost all the media about its events and teams but SCII is a lot bigger than MLG so if there's any game that can change things I think this is it.

As for series continuing when players meet in the losers bracket having played in the winners bracket, I get your point about both players having earned the right to be there, but the simple argument that a player who goes 3-2 (2-0, 1-2) over someone in a tournament should be the one to advance over the guy who goes 2-3 is rather compelling to me. I wouldn't be opposed to a rule change but I don't think the current set up is stupid.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:11:26
October 17 2010 15:09 GMT
#1722
On October 18 2010 00:07 syllogism wrote:
Idra has to somewhat adapt based on what his opponent is doing, but Select didn't even make ghosts against Tyler when the game dragged on and he was on 3-4 bases. Also Idra didn't make mutaling every game.

Anyway, doing exactly the same build over and over again in a tournament is not good. Doing it most of the time is fine, but you do have to vary a bit.


I said ZvT specifically, not ZvP (where we saw the spine crawler push with roaches/hydras). And now hearing the Machine backstory, it seems even more petty. Understandable, but it doesn't excuse or call for continuously bashing him on the podcast.
With no power comes no responsibility?
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
October 17 2010 15:10 GMT
#1723
people need to stop saying that select cant tvz just from seeing 2 games. its irritating how fast people assume things, didnt he play some dominant tvz in both tl opens, and didnt he beat sen 3-0 on sens stream. the problem is he almost always went 10 rax, and the patch screwed him over 1 day before the tournament. give him a week and then check out his tvz, his lategame was VERY impressive from all the games ive seen of him.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 17 2010 15:10 GMT
#1724
Not working (((( JP I CALL UPON YOU AND THE 4 Pillars to fix the this PROBLEM AT HANDS I BELIEVE IN YOU!
if you can believe you can concieve
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2010 15:11 GMT
#1725
On October 18 2010 00:09 mav451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 00:07 syllogism wrote:
Idra has to somewhat adapt based on what his opponent is doing, but Select didn't even make ghosts against Tyler when the game dragged on and he was on 3-4 bases. Also Idra didn't make mutaling every game.

Anyway, doing exactly the same build over and over again in a tournament is not good. Doing it most of the time is fine, but you do have to vary a bit.


I said ZvT specifically, not ZvP (where we saw the spine crawler push with roaches/hydras).

He used roaches against avilo (T) at least
TrevorJK
Profile Joined May 2009
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:21:35
October 17 2010 15:15 GMT
#1726
I havn't watched SC:BW in a while, but is Flash still going to the exact same mech build he goes every game vs Protoss? I find it ironic that two ex-BW players are the ones whining about a lack of build diversity, which makes me think they aren't a fan of Select because hes a Korean playing in a local US tournament or because he isn't a member of the TL.
formthehead
Profile Joined June 2010
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:25:03
October 17 2010 15:24 GMT
#1727
Incontrol said that it's a build that won't work as well the more that people are familiar with it. Once nony/huk/kiwi get enough practice preparing for it then it won't be an issue at the next lan, and select doesn't seemingly have any other strategies to fall back on. I think he said the same thing about lastshadow and that was pretty much true for this event. People are reading into it a bit too desperately, nobody on the podcast implied that getting 2nd at MLG also meant that he was terrible.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 17 2010 15:24 GMT
#1728
They're not actually bashing Select. They're just joking around.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Vexin
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania84 Posts
October 17 2010 15:29 GMT
#1729
Having problems downloading this, can someone mirror it somewhere?
Don't be so humble, you're not that great.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 17 2010 15:33 GMT
#1730
I demand more serious responses to these podcasts. I actually only do it for the controversy.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:34:58
October 17 2010 15:33 GMT
#1731
Doesn't seem like you guys read my post. He bashed him already earlier. But Geoff is given a 2nd opportunity to comment on SelecT on SotG and uses that to backslap him yet again. It just seems that Geoff can't even compliment him on one thing. Geoff was not joking either - you can hear his voice change when he's in a funny mood. But in his discussion of SelecT he was quite serious and the antagonism, IMO, is really uncalled for.

You guys can gloss over it all you want, but it really stood out from what was a rather laid back podcast.

*Hi Geoff :D
With no power comes no responsibility?
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 17 2010 15:34 GMT
#1732
On October 18 2010 00:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I demand more serious responses to these podcasts. I actually only do it for the controversy.


The live and streamed show going live in 25 mins right? Can you put it on the calendar so people don't miss it ?:>
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 17 2010 15:35 GMT
#1733
On October 18 2010 00:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I demand more serious responses to these podcasts. I actually only do it for the controversy.


Yeah incontrol likes attention ;P gawsh people
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Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
October 17 2010 15:36 GMT
#1734
On October 18 2010 00:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I demand more serious responses to these podcasts. I actually only do it for the controversy.

Well, once I can actually listen to the podcast I will give you all the serious commentary you want.
TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
October 17 2010 15:37 GMT
#1735
Can someone please rehost the podcast? The server has completely crashed.
A marine walks into a bar and asks: Where's the counter?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:39:06
October 17 2010 15:38 GMT
#1736
The podcast would be awfully boring and uninteresting if the casters didn't at least occasionally say what they really think. Sorry if not everyone was impressed by SelecT.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 17 2010 15:40 GMT
#1737
The way they talk in the mouth of each others in the last podcast was annoying as hell. I love the podcasts but stuffs like that sucks
Dead girls don't say no.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:41:15
October 17 2010 15:40 GMT
#1738
The link isn't working and my thirst for listening to people talk about starcraft is not satisfied.
Computer says mafia
jamvng
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada244 Posts
October 17 2010 15:45 GMT
#1739
On October 18 2010 00:40 Palmar wrote:
The link isn't working and my thirst for listening to people talk about starcraft is not satisfied.


nOOOO i want to listen to people talk about starcraft!! Can someone fix the link?!?!
learning
Profile Joined April 2010
United States104 Posts
October 17 2010 15:49 GMT
#1740
I uploaded the one I downloaded this morning:

SotG - 10.16.10 - Minicast


Remove it if you need to mods, I'm just trying to help out right now.
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