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ThomasR
764 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:53 NovemberstOrm wrote: anyone can make up something over the internet without actually proving it. fan zhen wo gen ni shuo she mo dou mei you yong, sha bi User was warned for this post | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:55 zanga wrote: Needs more thankfulness for what Blizzard IS doing rather than not doing (right now). artosis is saying it. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:55 zanga wrote: Needs more thankfulness for what Blizzard IS doing rather than not doing (right now). I think people are forgetting that Blizzard could say "Fuck you all, it's all cancelled" and then everyone grabs the torches and pitchforks. | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:53 Shelke14 wrote: Right.... Catz's points of it being nearly impossible for individuals in NA to practice like koreans because there is no infrastructure is a perfectly well thought out problem that is happening here. You two have zero merit in what you are typing here because you are tossing out his points with no thought what so ever. If you are not willing to actually discuss the points then don't post here. You think the koreans had it easy years ago when they were building it up? it takes super dedication and time. they had no money, eating crap for food, sacrificing, blood, sweat and tears. point is catz wants it without the effort. he has no idea of how hard the koreans had to work. it didn't come for free. so yea I do hear his points and at the end of the day it's whining. this whole whining about koreans is moot anyways, their dominance is going nowhere, so get used to it. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:56 ThomasR wrote: fan zhen wo gen ni shuo she mo dou mei you yong, sha bi I speak Cantonese, not Mandarin, and I think I understood half of what you typed  | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:56 Klipsys wrote: Dude, I'm so sick of hearing people fucking complain that blizzard isn't handing them money to play their game. Either shut up practice and beat Koreans, or get a real fucking job. Most people HAVE to do both if you are outside of Korea. Get a clue! Catz actually knows what he is talking about. | ||
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AstroPegnuin
293 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:57 AgentW wrote: I think people are forgetting that Blizzard could say "Fuck you all, it's all cancelled" and then everyone grabs the torches and pitchforks. Imo all Blizzard has done is pumped more money for Korean players to win while destroying the GSL (simply put because theres no reason to even try to play in it unless your Code S and if your feeling risky enough Code A), They've also taken away players like MVP and Nestea from the GSL which is quiet astonishing to think of that tournament without those two players. Foreigners have no reason to be in Korea anymore either making the excitement of foreigners creating in an actual live studio against Koreans and poteintally winning the GSL non existent. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:53 Shelke14 wrote: Right.... Catz's points of it being nearly impossible for individuals in NA to practice like koreans because there is no infrastructure is a perfectly well thought out problem that is happening here. You two have zero merit in what you are typing here because you are tossing out his points with no thought what so ever. If you are not willing to actually discuss the points then don't post here. He has no point. He's complaining that it's hard to make money playing video games professionally. What a fucking surprise! Instead of looking for blizzard welfare, he should practise more and beat koreans. If it's too hard, tough! Life is hard! | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
People being fucking godly at the game is enough a story for me :D | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:56 Klipsys wrote: Dude, I'm so sick of hearing people fucking complain that blizzard isn't handing them money to play their game. Either shut up practice and beat Koreans, or get a real fucking job. While I kind of agree with you, the issue catz and people who think like him has, is that you cannot conceivably work an actual job AND practice enough to beat koreans, so without more support for foreigners, the skill gap between koreans and foreigners is just going to keep getting bigger. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:59 DaCruise wrote: Most people HAVE to do both if you are outside of Korea. Get a clue! Catz actually knows what he is talking about. He knows what he's talking about as far as a 20 something who wants to make money playing video games...Are you seriously implying that blizzard should make it easier for non-koreans to make money? | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:59 AstroPegnuin wrote: Imo all Blizzard has done is pumped more money for Korean players to win while destroying the GSL (simply put because theres no reason to even try to play in it unless your Code S and if your feeling risky enough Code A), They've also taken away players like MVP and Nestea from the GSL which is quiet astonishing to think of that tournament without those two players. Foreigners have no reason to be in Korea anymore either making the excitement of foreigners creating in an actual live studio against Koreans and poteintally winning the GSL non existent. they 'took away' Nestea from GSL? Not really, he was irrelevant in GSL for a year now. | ||
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Whoranzone
Germany330 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:59 DaCruise wrote: Most people HAVE to do both if you are outside of Korea. Get a clue! Catz actually knows what he is talking about. Yeah because you get a free shit and a fucking state parade once you announce to become a pro gamer in Korea. I don't even really disagree with what Catz means but really don't exaggerate. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:00 Klipsys wrote: He knows what he's talking about as far as a 20 something who wants to make money playing video games...Are you seriously implying that blizzard should make it easier for non-koreans to make money? Yes, and that's CatZ's point. As a long term investment, Blizzard investing in building NA and EU will be best for the scene if they can come somewhere close to Korea. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:00 Canas wrote: While I kind of agree with you, the issue catz and people who think like him has, is that you cannot conceivably work an actual job AND practice enough to beat koreans, so without more support for foreigners, the skill gap between koreans and foreigners is just going to keep getting bigger. Then he shouldn't be doing this. I'm sorry that no one here is admitting it, but artosis is 100% correct, and maybe even too soft. There is no guarantee for anyone to make this a real living. Does anyone really expect blizzard to just hand out prize money to lesser skilled players? | ||
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AstroPegnuin
293 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:59 Klipsys wrote: He has no point. He's complaining that it's hard to make money playing video games professionally. What a fucking surprise! Instead of looking for blizzard welfare, he should practise more and beat koreans. If it's too hard, tough! Life is hard! He's saying for people that have to work to maintain their life have no means or motivation to sacrifice their whole social life to play a video game for the small 0.001% chance that they can now potentially compete and take 8th in a tournament against a bunch of Koreans. Koreans don't have to spend all day working/doing school, I'm guessing you probably leech off your parents because they enable it still and thus have no concept of what hes saying. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:57 jj33 wrote: You think the koreans had it easy years ago when they were building it up? it takes super dedication and time. they had no money, eating crap for food, sacrificing, blood, sweat and tears. point is catz wants it without the effort. he has no idea of how hard the koreans had to work. it didn't come for free. so yea I do hear his points and at the end of the day it's whining. this whole whining about koreans is moot anyways, their dominance is going nowhere, so get used to it. Exactly, there is tons of koreans who had been in bad situations as well who had to work hard to get where they are. He acts like everything is handed out for them. For every successful korean we hear about, there is a shit ton that are making next to nothing while sacrificing their education. | ||
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hastur420
Belize178 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:00 Klipsys wrote: He knows what he's talking about as far as a 20 something who wants to make money playing video games...Are you seriously implying that blizzard should make it easier for non-koreans to make money? aren't you guys fucking listening to him at all? he emphasized he is ok with it if they decrease the prize pool hugely. even if top 3 get like 50/20/5k dollars and koreans cant participate Catz would never make enough money via tournament prize and he knows that, what the fuck are you talking about. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
NORTH KOREAN | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:01 Sub40APM wrote: they 'took away' Nestea from GSL? Not really, he was irrelevant in GSL for a year now. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NesTea/Results Scroll down to his GSL results and pay attention to results before you feed the "Nestea sucks" baloney. | ||
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