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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 29 2012 05:07 GMT
#47861
I was expecting so much worse when i watched this.

Not really sure what people are crying about.

Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
hagrin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
June 29 2012 05:07 GMT
#47862
My dog was out chasing (and eventually maiming) a possum that I just had to honorably put to death with a shovel.

What did I miss?
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
June 29 2012 05:08 GMT
#47863
On June 29 2012 13:45 tyrless wrote:
not sure where nony fits in, he's probably the guy who just pops in randomly to use the rec room and smoke up but he always brings girls so he's cool



LOL THIS IS THE FUNNIEST LINE I'VE READ ALL NIGHT LOL

there is so much anger at what was honestly a little bit mean but not unsurprising -_-
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
June 29 2012 05:08 GMT
#47864
On June 29 2012 14:07 Za7oX wrote:
I was expecting so much worse when i watched this.

Not really sure what people are crying about.



Do they necessarily need to have anything to cry about to cry?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
June 29 2012 05:09 GMT
#47865
On June 29 2012 14:02 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 13:58 xOny wrote:
On June 29 2012 13:52 Femari wrote:
I really dont think Avilo should've been brought in. You really only need one TvZ argument. qxc v IdrA was good. The incident with Avilo is why I hope MLG isn't on TV any time soon because our community shouldn't even be on TV yet with how everyone acts.

Yes it's IdrA, yes he's notorious for this shit, but I hope to god Starcraft stays off TV outside of Korea because we'll just look so bad because of the nonstop drama.

You really all should've seen it coming, IdrA said he didn't want him on and you sorta forced him to do it. That doesn't excuse his actions but you should've known it would happen and you should've said no and not let him on because qxc did everything fine, you didn't need another one.


What IdrA did, ie calmy say "i'm not going to talk to this person anymore" was completely understandable considering how Avilo was completely ignorant of any actual in-game scenario IdrA tried to bring up. IMO it was Avilo who should be blamed for starting a "controversy", anyone who argues in such an obnoxious manner ("I don't care what you say, I just want to say a 1-liner about how imbalanced TvZ is") does not deserve to share his opinion in front of the community

because idra, jp, and incontrol was so much more profressional in interrupting his talks and constantly berates him right? I respect Avilo for not retaliate for the shit he has to endure past couple episodes. The constant shit talking, laughing in the background, belitting, demeaning photos from when he was 13, and hanging up the call


Have you considered that Avilo might have deserved this treatment? These guys wouldn't just treat anybody like that. There's obviously a reason for their contempt toward Avilo. Unless you think they just randomly decided to shit on somebody.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 29 2012 05:11 GMT
#47866
Does anyone have the vod?
hagrin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
June 29 2012 05:11 GMT
#47867
On June 29 2012 14:11 IMoperator wrote:
Does anyone have the vod?


Gl!tch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States573 Posts
June 29 2012 05:12 GMT
#47868
On June 29 2012 14:11 IMoperator wrote:
Does anyone have the vod?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fgNhWttYN4&feature=g-u-u
“I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.” ― Banksy
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 05:21:19
June 29 2012 05:19 GMT
#47869
On June 29 2012 14:07 Za7oX wrote:
I was expecting so much worse when i watched this.

Not really sure what people are crying about.


Lol exactly this. I just watched it, nothing to start a shitstorm about.
JP should have said a few words before cutting avilo though. Like "Ok, thanks for coming Avilo, I'm gonna have to cut the call here, it didn't work out well in the end" and cut.

Avilo wasn't irreproachable, he interrupted IdrA several times (as did IdrA), put words into IdrA's mouth (the "As you said" while IdrA obviously didn't say that). IdrA wasn't either, started swearing and insulting a bit out of nowhere...

But...that's it guys...No need to contact sponsors or some shit...a pretty awkward exchange in the history of SotG, but nothing harmful at all...

On the other hand, the discussion between IdrA and qxc was very interesting, and it was obvious anyway that from there Avilo didn't have anything to add.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 05:24:33
June 29 2012 05:22 GMT
#47870
On June 29 2012 14:09 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 14:02 iky43210 wrote:
On June 29 2012 13:58 xOny wrote:
On June 29 2012 13:52 Femari wrote:
I really dont think Avilo should've been brought in. You really only need one TvZ argument. qxc v IdrA was good. The incident with Avilo is why I hope MLG isn't on TV any time soon because our community shouldn't even be on TV yet with how everyone acts.

Yes it's IdrA, yes he's notorious for this shit, but I hope to god Starcraft stays off TV outside of Korea because we'll just look so bad because of the nonstop drama.

You really all should've seen it coming, IdrA said he didn't want him on and you sorta forced him to do it. That doesn't excuse his actions but you should've known it would happen and you should've said no and not let him on because qxc did everything fine, you didn't need another one.


What IdrA did, ie calmy say "i'm not going to talk to this person anymore" was completely understandable considering how Avilo was completely ignorant of any actual in-game scenario IdrA tried to bring up. IMO it was Avilo who should be blamed for starting a "controversy", anyone who argues in such an obnoxious manner ("I don't care what you say, I just want to say a 1-liner about how imbalanced TvZ is") does not deserve to share his opinion in front of the community

because idra, jp, and incontrol was so much more profressional in interrupting his talks and constantly berates him right? I respect Avilo for not retaliate for the shit he has to endure past couple episodes. The constant shit talking, laughing in the background, belitting, demeaning photos from when he was 13, and hanging up the call


Have you considered that Avilo might have deserved this treatment? These guys wouldn't just treat anybody like that. There's obviously a reason for their contempt toward Avilo. Unless you think they just randomly decided to shit on somebody.

nobody "deserves" this treatment. Not even combatex

and incontrols is pretty much king on hating people for no apparent reasons. See pewdiepie.
iAmiAnC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom317 Posts
June 29 2012 05:22 GMT
#47871
much ado about nothing as usual
http://www.twitch.tv/iamianc <- High master EU terran stream /w commentary!
PesteNoire
Profile Joined June 2012
151 Posts
June 29 2012 05:22 GMT
#47872
Idra "Terran can still be aggressive off 3 base" How is this true in any way?
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
June 29 2012 05:24 GMT
#47873
Anyone defending zergs insane strength right now in TvZ is just being an idiot. Plain and simple. This game is not going to "fix itself", zerg needs some serious late game nerfs. HARD nerfs.
McPhiz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada183 Posts
June 29 2012 05:24 GMT
#47874
Idra and Qxc were actually having a very good discussion about TvZ too
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 29 2012 05:25 GMT
#47875
Making brutally concrete statements like "Queen got 2 more range, now zerg can get 80 unharassed" is what makes IdrA realize this guy(Avilo) don't know wtf he's talking about and arguing with him is a waste of time... If you actually know how silly that sounds.. you would understand why IdrA reacts the way he does.
But then Idra is just being Idra. Though Avilo was not smart and Idra acted like a jerk.

The real story is Incontrol wanting to bring Avilo up when they really should not done it.
I could tell that incontrol wanted to see the drama between Avilo and Idra with their bad history.
Incontrol was basically acting as the instigator of the clusterfuck that happened between Avilo and Idra.
Pretty disappointed overall on this episode of SotG.Hope they know their mistakes this time and corrected it(JP,Incontrol).
Play your best
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 05:27:43
June 29 2012 05:25 GMT
#47876
On June 29 2012 14:22 PesteNoire wrote:
Idra "Terran can still be aggressive off 3 base" How is this true in any way?

It's completely wrong, I think in this discussion that was the only moment he was really talking out of his ass. Completely unrealistic for Terran to push early on with a 3 CC build, regardless of what Zerg is doing really. Just imagine MKP doing that, how IdrA himself would trask talk him ;D

Edit: And let's be clear, he was talking of being agressive while having like your third CC still in your base, a little pressure of some sort before fully establishing your 3 base economy. Obviously you will be able to do an attack once you're on 3 bases, duh ;D
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 29 2012 05:27 GMT
#47877
On June 29 2012 14:24 McPhiz wrote:
Idra and Qxc were actually having a very good discussion about TvZ too


Yes this is right actually.
They had a really good discussion until the chat and Incontrol wanted to bring Avilo for the sake of drama.
Got no idea why they had to do that which fucked up this episode.
Play your best
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
June 29 2012 05:28 GMT
#47878
On June 29 2012 14:22 iAmiAnC wrote:
much ado about nothing as usual


*Watches SOTG*
O villain! thou wilt be condemned into everlasting redemption for this



+ Show Spoiler +
If you don't get the post, google much ado about nothing, then the quote, or both.
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AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
June 29 2012 05:29 GMT
#47879
avilo believe it or not is a key part to the community and these stuck up pricks think they are hot shit and were clearly assholes to him... idra was way more of a jerk then avilo and avilo was put into a position to be made a fool even though he was just expressing his opinion....
Terran Metal for the Win
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 29 2012 05:31 GMT
#47880
As a note: On the topic of the colour mod, the colour mod is really really good for colour blind people.

Regular red v blue is not quite distinct enough for colour blind people and a decently large proportion of males are colour blind.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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