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On June 29 2012 11:55 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:54 MrCon wrote:On June 29 2012 11:48 Denzil wrote:On June 29 2012 11:46 Roggay wrote:On June 29 2012 11:45 MrCon wrote:On June 29 2012 11:42 Roggay wrote:On June 29 2012 11:41 MrCon wrote:On June 29 2012 11:32 Roggay wrote:On June 29 2012 11:30 MrCon wrote: Anyway, whatever they said...you just don't invite a guy on your show to just hang up on him like that, wtf seriously. Like JP had a choice, the show was going to hell, and its not like he was going to hang up on Idra to keep Avilo on the show... use your brain. Seriously, "use your brain", I can't believe you said that. You can still say something and not cut him like that ? You can cut his mic, say that the debates ends here, thanks for coming, bye ? "Use your brain" lol. I've seen you being salty about terran and a lot of things in this thread, so yea, i might have used the wrong words sorry. Well I have to say that I'm not easily shocked, and I found this shocking. I don't really know Avilo tho, but that was just...really low. JP was in panic mode at that point. kind of silly you MrCon expecting him to follow some sort of trainwreck protocol as if you in the same situation would do the same thing (and don't tell me you would that's just a dick answer) he stopped the situation getting even worse and picked the lesser of 2 evils Wheat would have handled that like that ? absolutely he would have. he has hung up on callers and flamed them himself many times.
Wheat would push the GG button though.
Get to Wheat's level JP!
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Aww, sounds like I missed a good show to drink with. Oh well, I can work on 71 at least
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You guys asked for Avilo, this is what you get.
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On June 29 2012 11:54 Dosey wrote: To people complaining about the "STFU" and the resulting hang up...
IdrA was tame for the better half of the "debate" even though he obviously dislikes Avilo and didn't even want to talk to him. Avilo even came on the show acting like a passive aggressive prick and should have been hung up on right then and there. You can even tell it crossed JPs mind until Geoff hopped in and said "This is your only chance, don't blow it"
After IdrA attempting to be tame, Avilo totally blows it by interrupting him in the middle of talking and screaming "I agree with you!! I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!" Completely twisting IdrAs point around to favor his argument. This would anger anyone having a discussion with some random person, let alone someone you explicitly dislike. At that point, JP had to hang up on him or risk a further blow up from IdrA.
are we watching the same show? Idra has been going full force in ad-hominem attacks and interrupting avilo nonstop before it even escalated to that point
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I tend to wait for Vods so I can skip the boring stuff but... wow, this episode sounds very dramatic.
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this reminds me of those news on UNN studios.
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On June 29 2012 11:55 EmilGebl wrote: avilo was ugly as fuk.
What a first post.
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On June 29 2012 11:48 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:47 andReslic wrote: JP and IdrA are retards for doing shit like that, never watching this bullshit again. it was basically incontrols idea all of it, he seems to get off on bullying I've noticed the same thing. He really seems to like patronizing and demeaning people (people he is somehow superior, more fame). Atleast we didn't get the voice acting this time. And it's odd because that's not the kind of person you would think incontrol is. But it happens really often.
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I just watched straight up pathetic and disgusting attempts at bullying on an internet live show. Well, I'm done with SOTG.
Edit: Also I think Avilo had shitty arguments, if it's worth anything.
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Wow. Gotta say, while Idra was short with him, Avilo makes it hard for me to want to be on his side in anything (I play zerg and enjoy the "threat of queens" to scare terrans who are too afraid to run around). I really really enjoyed the QXC/Idra debate, though, lots of interesting ideas.
The only thing this is going to do (this being the butthurt pitchfork-waving slobbering masses) is keep Idra from ever being on SotG again. I for one liked it when he or Huk were on the show, but doubt we'll see much in the way of guest pillars anymore. And to those writing to EG or their sponsors; grow up. There's no need to be offended on someone else's behalf. I can assure you, those higher up in EG was watching the show and if anything needs to happen (which it shouldn't) they will take care of it.
And here I thought people eventually grew OUT of being tattletails. Sad days, my friends, sad days indeed.
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On June 29 2012 11:50 Anfield wrote: Boys, bring out the pitchforks. It's time to message some sponsors
Are you for real?
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jp fucked up this big time.. and ppl trying to defend that shit by saying that he panic'd, can it get more absurd? -___-
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sotg has become a massive circlejerk of personalities who haven't had results in over a year, pretty sad to see.
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On June 29 2012 11:57 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:54 Dosey wrote: To people complaining about the "STFU" and the resulting hang up...
IdrA was tame for the better half of the "debate" even though he obviously dislikes Avilo and didn't even want to talk to him. Avilo even came on the show acting like a passive aggressive prick and should have been hung up on right then and there. You can even tell it crossed JPs mind until Geoff hopped in and said "This is your only chance, don't blow it"
After IdrA attempting to be tame, Avilo totally blows it by interrupting him in the middle of talking and screaming "I agree with you!! I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!" Completely twisting IdrAs point around to favor his argument. This would anger anyone having a discussion with some random person, let alone someone you explicitly dislike. At that point, JP had to hang up on him or risk a further blow up from IdrA. are we watching the same show? Idra has been going full force in ad-hominem attacks and interrupting avilo nonstop before it even escalated to that point Oh really? Did we watch the same show,cus that's not how it came off to me
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Avilo cut IdrA off, and everything devolved into a shitshow. Avilo could've been clearer with his argument, though it seemed like he was grasping for straws; asking "What builds would you suggest?" was basically the same as "Figure out the new metagame for me", which doesn't convince me when IdrA was arguing that the new metagame has yet to develop.
I agree with IdrA that letting it play out is the right response, but it's still a little bit of a cop-out in terms of debate.
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On June 29 2012 11:58 Jarree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:48 Dundron2000 wrote:On June 29 2012 11:47 andReslic wrote: JP and IdrA are retards for doing shit like that, never watching this bullshit again. it was basically incontrols idea all of it, he seems to get off on bullying I've noticed the same thing. He really seems to like patronizing and demeaning people (people he is somehow superior, more fame). Atleast we didn't get the voice acting this time. And it's odd because that's not the kind of person you would think incontrol is. But it happens really often.
I remember seeing incontrol defaming pewdiepie just on last dreamhack. Kind of bothered me a bit back then and it still does now
Its sort of "ok" to make fun and defame people you know/friends, but I think it crosses the line when you're doing it to a complete stranger (who is argubly more successful than incontrol)
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so something I'm curious about (that I know will most likely get overlooked what with all the drama) but no one actually asked what qxcs opinion of TvZ was. At the very beginning JP told them to start debating and instead of qxc stating his opinion he just took the other side of the debate to make it... a debate. His initial response (which was something to the effect of "you just want me to go off of its imbalanced?") made me think he actually didnt think the matchup was imbalanced as much as not figured out yet
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On June 29 2012 11:50 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:48 Arkansassy wrote: It's apparent now that the only reason Incontrol wanted to call avilo was so they could ridicule him. He even started before avilo got on. Avilo had some pertinent points to make and they continually cut him off and were down right rude, but I didn't expect anything else from them.
That picture they put up was avilo when he was 13 and that, too, was just put there to make fun of him. Nice going guys!
Idra said: "i was quiet and let him finish his point, the moment i started talking he started yelling over me and saying i agreed with him when i quite explicitly didnt. hes a fucking imbecile and has no place in anything serious in the community and jp's a piece of shit for bringing him on the show.
@Idra, how can you lie when people were actually watching? Avilo never once raised his voice and he said, "I agree with what Idra said about..." and tried to explain, but your hatred didn't hear that.so you told him to STFU. Very mature of you.
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh look its someone making up shit for fun. JP put the picture up, he asked avilo if its actually him or not because he had no idea. How can you purposefully pick a picture that is bad of someone if you're not sure its them in the first place? Stop makin stuff up thanks man.
lol... apparently you don't have reading comprehension duh. try again.
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On June 29 2012 11:59 zawk9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:50 Anfield wrote: Boys, bring out the pitchforks. It's time to message some sponsors Are you for real?
omg come on guys sarcasm sarcasm. are you for real is the question
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On June 29 2012 11:58 Jarree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 11:48 Dundron2000 wrote:On June 29 2012 11:47 andReslic wrote: JP and IdrA are retards for doing shit like that, never watching this bullshit again. it was basically incontrols idea all of it, he seems to get off on bullying I've noticed the same thing. He really seems to like patronizing and demeaning people (people he is somehow superior, more fame). Atleast we didn't get the voice acting this time. And it's odd because that's not the kind of person you would think incontrol is. But it happens really often. Actually he "bullies" everyone, he used to talk shit to Sundance (owner of MLG) all the time, if you now can call it bullying lol.
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