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SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 29 2012 02:53 GMT
#47481
JP you should have learned by now to completely disregard the chat and this thread (except this post of course).
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
June 29 2012 02:53 GMT
#47482
This was painful to watch, honestly. I'll probably not be watching again for awhile.
Blues
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 02:54:22
June 29 2012 02:53 GMT
#47483
Everyone here is acting as if Avilo is this random person they are not acquainted with who got torn apart in the show. Greg clearly does not like him, and I suppose Geoff can tolerate him through his sense of humor. The CHAT was asking for this. Why the hell would someone seriously take a suggestion from the chat.

This was all for the sake of drama and entertainment, and I believe JP underestimated how much him and Idra don't get along. People can talk professionalism all you want, but if I was forced on camera to interact with someone I've disliked and not gotten along with for YEARS, I would not put up with it and smile through my teeth with fake politeness forced on by the fact that they had an audience.

In my opinion, kudos to Idra for not letting the show environment turn him and his relation with Avilo into something it's not.
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hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
June 29 2012 02:53 GMT
#47484
On June 29 2012 11:50 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:50 PanN wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:48 Arkansassy wrote:
It's apparent now that the only reason Incontrol wanted to call avilo was so they could ridicule him. He even started before avilo got on. Avilo had some pertinent points to make and they continually cut him off and were down right rude, but I didn't expect anything else from them.

That picture they put up was avilo when he was 13 and that, too, was just put there to make fun of him. Nice going guys!

Idra said: "i was quiet and let him finish his point, the moment i started talking he started yelling over me and saying i agreed with him when i quite explicitly didnt. hes a fucking imbecile and has no place in anything serious in the community and jp's a piece of shit for bringing him on the show.

@Idra, how can you lie when people were actually watching? Avilo never once raised his voice and he said, "I agree with what Idra said about..." and tried to explain, but your hatred didn't hear that.so you told him to STFU. Very mature of you.

All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.


Oh look its someone making up shit for fun.

JP put the picture up, he asked avilo if its actually him or not because he had no idea. How can you purposefully pick a picture that is bad of someone if you're not sure its them in the first place?

Stop makin stuff up thanks man.

Not sure if serious. It's pretty obvious that JP knew who it was.


When you type Avilo in Google it's literally the first picture that comes up. Nothing malicious happened, he just used google to find a picture of his guest.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#47485
On June 29 2012 11:48 Arkansassy wrote:
It's apparent now that the only reason Incontrol wanted to call avilo was so they could ridicule him. He even started before avilo got on. Avilo had some pertinent points to make and they continually cut him off and were down right rude, but I didn't expect anything else from them.

That picture they put up was avilo when he was 13 and that, too, was just put there to make fun of him. Nice going guys!

Idra said: "i was quiet and let him finish his point, the moment i started talking he started yelling over me and saying i agreed with him when i quite explicitly didnt. hes a fucking imbecile and has no place in anything serious in the community and jp's a piece of shit for bringing him on the show.

@Idra, how can you lie when people were actually watching? Avilo never once raised his voice and he said, "I agree with what Idra said about..." and tried to explain, but your hatred didn't hear that.so you told him to STFU. Very mature of you.

All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.


If you were actually listening to what avilo was saying, when he was "agreeing with Idra", he wasn't understanding what Idra said at all and then making the dumb 80 drone point once again pretending that that was what Idra said. He even repeated the same thing after Idra had to repeat what he said, and once again, avilo didn't actually listen and agreed with Idra even though it was completely obvious that the arguments were completely different.

I don't think it was professional at all, but avilo's flawed comments really destroyed the argument, and you could tell by the time he was kicked that the discussion wasn't going to go anywhere if he wasn't even listening to what was being said. I do agree that he should have been cut in a more respectful way, but it's just dumb to try and defend his argument at all, which was completely flawed and almost felt like a generic vent.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#47486
On June 29 2012 11:48 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:46 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:45 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:42 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:41 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:32 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:30 MrCon wrote:
Anyway, whatever they said...you just don't invite a guy on your show to just hang up on him like that, wtf seriously.

Like JP had a choice, the show was going to hell, and its not like he was going to hang up on Idra to keep Avilo on the show... use your brain.

Seriously, "use your brain", I can't believe you said that.
You can still say something and not cut him like that ? You can cut his mic, say that the debates ends here, thanks for coming, bye ?
"Use your brain" lol.

I've seen you being salty about terran and a lot of things in this thread, so yea, i might have used the wrong words sorry.

Well I have to say that I'm not easily shocked, and I found this shocking. I don't really know Avilo tho, but that was just...really low.

JP was in panic mode at that point.


kind of silly you MrCon expecting him to follow some sort of trainwreck protocol as if you in the same situation would do the same thing (and don't tell me you would that's just a dick answer)

he stopped the situation getting even worse and picked the lesser of 2 evils

Wheat would have handled that like that ?
TheZanthex
Profile Joined January 2012
United States144 Posts
June 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#47487
On June 29 2012 11:53 Blues wrote:
Everyone here is acting as if Avilo is this random person they are not aquanted with who got torn apart in the show. Greg clearly does not like him, and I suppose Geoff can tolerate him through his sense of humor. The CHAT was asking for this. Why the hell would someone seriously take a suggestion from the chat.

This was all for the sake of drama and entertainment, and I believe JP underestimated how much him and Idra don't get along. People can talk professionalism all you want, but if I was forced on camera to interact with someone I've disliked and not gotten along with for YEARS, I would not put up with it and smile through my teeth with fake politeness forced on by the fact that they had an audience.

In my opinion, kudos to Idra for not letting the show environment turn him and his relation with Avilo into something it's not.


I completely agree, mate.
IdrA fan for life, man. <3
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#47488
To people complaining about the "STFU" and the resulting hang up...

IdrA was tame for the better half of the "debate" even though he obviously dislikes Avilo and didn't even want to talk to him. Avilo even came on the show acting like a passive aggressive prick and should have been hung up on right then and there. You can even tell it crossed JPs mind until Geoff hopped in and said "This is your only chance, don't blow it"

After IdrA attempting to be tame, Avilo totally blows it by interrupting him in the middle of talking and screaming "I agree with you!! I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!" Completely twisting IdrAs point around to favor his argument. This would anger anyone having a discussion with some random person, let alone someone you explicitly dislike. At that point, JP had to hang up on him or risk a further blow up from IdrA.
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
June 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#47489
On June 29 2012 11:50 Anfield wrote:
Boys, bring out the pitchforks. It's time to message some sponsors


I seriously hope you're sarcastic. Your career has hardly begun and I already lost my respect for you.
Things go badly when we message the sponsors directly. Don't do it.
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#47490
I am absolutely appalled at the way Idra behaved on tonight's episode. He told Avilo to STFU for no reason whatsoever. Even more shocking than Idra's behavior was when JP said that Avilo was shouting at Idra, when Avilo had done nothing hostile to Idra whatsoever. Instead of calling Idra out on his bad behavior, they muted Avilo, siding with their "in-crowd" buddy instead :/
Procrastination is the enemy
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#47491
On June 29 2012 11:53 Schmoooopy wrote:
This was painful to watch, honestly. I'll probably not be watching again for awhile.


My god... was it really this big of a deal to some people? It seems like people in this thread are actually in physical pain.

After last week, so many people were begging to have him on when everyone knew it would result in an argument, and then when they bring it on for the entertainment sake, people just can't stop complaining about how bad it was... holy shit. I just...
Smoodish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States95 Posts
June 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#47492
Idra overreacted, avilo isn't a good debater, JP fucked up, QXC is a great debater, along with idra when its not with avilo. All i saw in that show o.o.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
June 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#47493
On June 29 2012 11:52 Shaddar wrote:
I don't blame Idra at all, he clearly didn't want to talk to avilo, if you're in the position of having someone brought on a show to debate with you who you not only dislike but also think is an 'imbecile' there is no way you're going to react well to it, it's entirely JP and Incontrol's fault for bringing avilo on knowing full well (and probably because) they knew it would get this sort of reaction out of Idra.

I completely agree with this statement. Im amazed Idra managed to stay calm for so long actually (Incontrol too apparently). That was a bad idea from the start.
EmilGebl
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden1 Post
June 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#47494
avilo was ugly as fuk.

User was temp banned for this post.
lol
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#47495
On June 29 2012 11:54 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:48 Denzil wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:46 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:45 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:42 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:41 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:32 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:30 MrCon wrote:
Anyway, whatever they said...you just don't invite a guy on your show to just hang up on him like that, wtf seriously.

Like JP had a choice, the show was going to hell, and its not like he was going to hang up on Idra to keep Avilo on the show... use your brain.

Seriously, "use your brain", I can't believe you said that.
You can still say something and not cut him like that ? You can cut his mic, say that the debates ends here, thanks for coming, bye ?
"Use your brain" lol.

I've seen you being salty about terran and a lot of things in this thread, so yea, i might have used the wrong words sorry.

Well I have to say that I'm not easily shocked, and I found this shocking. I don't really know Avilo tho, but that was just...really low.

JP was in panic mode at that point.


kind of silly you MrCon expecting him to follow some sort of trainwreck protocol as if you in the same situation would do the same thing (and don't tell me you would that's just a dick answer)

he stopped the situation getting even worse and picked the lesser of 2 evils

Wheat would have handled that like that ?

absolutely he would have. he has hung up on callers and flamed them himself many times.
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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
June 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#47496
On June 29 2012 11:50 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:50 PanN wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:48 Arkansassy wrote:
It's apparent now that the only reason Incontrol wanted to call avilo was so they could ridicule him. He even started before avilo got on. Avilo had some pertinent points to make and they continually cut him off and were down right rude, but I didn't expect anything else from them.

That picture they put up was avilo when he was 13 and that, too, was just put there to make fun of him. Nice going guys!

Idra said: "i was quiet and let him finish his point, the moment i started talking he started yelling over me and saying i agreed with him when i quite explicitly didnt. hes a fucking imbecile and has no place in anything serious in the community and jp's a piece of shit for bringing him on the show.

@Idra, how can you lie when people were actually watching? Avilo never once raised his voice and he said, "I agree with what Idra said about..." and tried to explain, but your hatred didn't hear that.so you told him to STFU. Very mature of you.

All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.


Oh look its someone making up shit for fun.

JP put the picture up, he asked avilo if its actually him or not because he had no idea. How can you purposefully pick a picture that is bad of someone if you're not sure its them in the first place?

Stop makin stuff up thanks man.

Not sure if serious. It's pretty obvious that JP knew who it was.


He said that he googled Avilo sc2 and took the first picture that came up. When i google avilo sc2 i get the same picture
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
deathr0w
Profile Joined January 2011
United States114 Posts
June 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#47497
Let's email sponsors so eSports can go no where, great idea guys. Also you think EG doesn't know how Idra is? They can just watch the VOD and see IdrA warned of bringing him on. ALSO YES IDRA DID GET INTERRUPTED BY AVILO. Avilo told Idra not to interrupt then he does it to Idra.. I don't know what you were watching but it happened.
What do you do if your opponent does something weird? Go fucking kill him - Day[9]
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#47498
On June 29 2012 11:54 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:48 Denzil wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:46 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:45 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:42 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:41 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:32 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:30 MrCon wrote:
Anyway, whatever they said...you just don't invite a guy on your show to just hang up on him like that, wtf seriously.

Like JP had a choice, the show was going to hell, and its not like he was going to hang up on Idra to keep Avilo on the show... use your brain.

Seriously, "use your brain", I can't believe you said that.
You can still say something and not cut him like that ? You can cut his mic, say that the debates ends here, thanks for coming, bye ?
"Use your brain" lol.

I've seen you being salty about terran and a lot of things in this thread, so yea, i might have used the wrong words sorry.

Well I have to say that I'm not easily shocked, and I found this shocking. I don't really know Avilo tho, but that was just...really low.

JP was in panic mode at that point.


kind of silly you MrCon expecting him to follow some sort of trainwreck protocol as if you in the same situation would do the same thing (and don't tell me you would that's just a dick answer)

he stopped the situation getting even worse and picked the lesser of 2 evils

Wheat would have handled that like that ?


What's your point?
that's a silly comparison to make
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
June 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#47499
On June 29 2012 11:53 Blues wrote:
Everyone here is acting as if Avilo is this random person they are not acquainted with who got torn apart in the show. Greg clearly does not like him, and I suppose Geoff can tolerate him through his sense of humor. The CHAT was asking for this. Why the hell would someone seriously take a suggestion from the chat.

This was all for the sake of drama and entertainment, and I believe JP underestimated how much him and Idra don't get along. People can talk professionalism all you want, but if I was forced on camera to interact with someone I've disliked and not gotten along with for YEARS, I would not put up with it and smile through my teeth with fake politeness forced on by the fact that they had an audience.

In my opinion, kudos to Idra for not letting the show environment turn him and his relation with Avilo into something it's not.


Not getting along with someone does not give you the high ground to ridicule somebody at every chance. Idra is not the only one at fault here, JP and incontrol were going full force with it too. And the worse part is just hanging up a guest like that on stream, totally not professional
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
June 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#47500
On June 29 2012 11:54 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:48 Denzil wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:46 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:45 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:42 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:41 MrCon wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:32 Roggay wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:30 MrCon wrote:
Anyway, whatever they said...you just don't invite a guy on your show to just hang up on him like that, wtf seriously.

Like JP had a choice, the show was going to hell, and its not like he was going to hang up on Idra to keep Avilo on the show... use your brain.

Seriously, "use your brain", I can't believe you said that.
You can still say something and not cut him like that ? You can cut his mic, say that the debates ends here, thanks for coming, bye ?
"Use your brain" lol.

I've seen you being salty about terran and a lot of things in this thread, so yea, i might have used the wrong words sorry.

Well I have to say that I'm not easily shocked, and I found this shocking. I don't really know Avilo tho, but that was just...really low.

JP was in panic mode at that point.


kind of silly you MrCon expecting him to follow some sort of trainwreck protocol as if you in the same situation would do the same thing (and don't tell me you would that's just a dick answer)

he stopped the situation getting even worse and picked the lesser of 2 evils

Wheat would have handled that like that ?


wheat would have not called avilo

use your brain
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