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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
June 29 2012 02:19 GMT
#47181
did JP just do what wheat did on ITG
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 29 2012 02:19 GMT
#47182
lol JP!
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
June 29 2012 02:19 GMT
#47183
What the hell was that!? Was that ITG troll recreated here?
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47184
Lmfao, Wheat and now JP. Who's next?
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47185
On June 29 2012 11:19 Tantaburs wrote:
did JP just do what wheat did on ITG


I think so. LOL
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47186
Please tell me that Wheat sent that to JP. :D
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47187
this avilo guy is annoying as hell TT, hope they get onto other topics soon
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47188
On June 29 2012 11:18 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:15 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:07 s3rp wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:03 Heavenlee wrote:
Very nice SotG discussion. IdrA was definitely right on the metagame of zerg allinning terran greed. I wonder if there is a solid inbetween on the greed that is able to hold those all-ins while still keeping the terran equal. I think a problem with the game sometimes is that people are often too eager to get an advantage through extreme greed, instead of playing on equal terms then winning through being the superior player as the game goes on. This often leads to the very coinflippy nature of some matchups.



I don't see something in between. You don't play greedy the uphill battle you fight in macro is too big and you can't really deal damage anymore without basically all-inning and crossing fingers if he plays greedy.. ( and playing greedy reactively usually doesn't work because its too late )


IdrA's argument disagrees, he seems to think that it is possible to macro on an equal level if there are some metagame changes i.e. turtling instead of pushing onto creep. DeMuslim v. Ret seemed a fairly solid example of this but that's not the super super high level. Really impossible for anyone to say right now IMO, the metagame hasn't really settled down yet and that's what I'm interested to see. Is it really that much of an insurmountable uphill battle, or is it often that the zerg is just the overall better macroer/has a current better understanding of the matchup at the moment?


I don't know very map turteling is dependent. If you can't really expand that well because of creep / expansion location then turteling is a bad idea.


Very true. If there is some very clear imbalance of TvZ overtime I suppose it's up to the mapmakers to make it more fair. That may make greed for the other races too easy though, so maybe there would have to be some solid terran-favored terrain to balance it out?
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47189
On June 29 2012 11:19 blade55555 wrote:
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On June 29 2012 11:18 imMUTAble787 wrote:
geoff and idra coming across as major assholes for trying to bully this guy


You obviously have no idea who avilo is. If you did you would understand why they dislike him and a lot of the community dislikes him in general.



i know exactly who avilo is. in the past hes come across as a total moron when it comes to balance. remember the thread in beta about tanks ?

i dont exactly like him, but that doesn't change the fact that geoff and idra are coming across as total assholes
*eternalenvy fanboy*
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47190
This is now JP

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Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
June 29 2012 02:20 GMT
#47191
On June 29 2012 11:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On June 29 2012 11:18 imMUTAble787 wrote:
geoff and idra coming across as major assholes for trying to bully this guy

idras counter arguements are becoming weaker and weaker -_-

how are they bullying him?


you watching the same show?
n.Die_Jaedong
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 02:21:29
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47192
On June 29 2012 11:19 blade55555 wrote:
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On June 29 2012 11:18 imMUTAble787 wrote:
geoff and idra coming across as major assholes for trying to bully this guy


You obviously have no idea who avilo is. If you did you would understand why they dislike him and a lot of the community dislikes him in general.

Does not justify, what about being a condescending douche towards the one that goes by "Luckyfool" for no reason?
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47193
On June 29 2012 11:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Wow the SotG guys hyped this up to be some form of some illogical mess. This is really dissappointing. The pillars are just shitting on Avilo for no reason

That's why qxc was so politically correct. You can just not talk about terran on sotg without the talk turning to ridicule. qxc knows it, so he didn't even tried.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 02:21:49
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47194
On June 29 2012 11:20 L3g3nd_ wrote:
this avilo guy is annoying as hell TT, hope they get onto other topics soon

how many times has he said "ye knoeww"?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47195
On June 29 2012 11:20 Dundron2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:18 imMUTAble787 wrote:
geoff and idra coming across as major assholes for trying to bully this guy

idras counter arguements are becoming weaker and weaker -_-

how are they bullying him?


you watching the same show?

yes.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47196
dat lisp.
The Notorious Winkles
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47197
On June 29 2012 11:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 11:18 imMUTAble787 wrote:
geoff and idra coming across as major assholes for trying to bully this guy

idras counter arguements are becoming weaker and weaker -_-

how are they bullying him?

Bullying is apparently disagreeing with someone now...>_>
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47198
Avilo is reguragating the same argument over and over.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#47199
On June 29 2012 11:20 L3g3nd_ wrote:
this avilo guy is annoying as hell TT, hope they get onto other topics soon


indeed. now he's just saying pretty much what qxc said earlier.
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SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 02:22:22
June 29 2012 02:22 GMT
#47200
Lol now it starts. Idra's had enough.
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