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On June 20 2012 13:23 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:18 Wingblade wrote:
Yes, bring a Terran on to give a full perspective, it honestly will make the show better, make the discussion more well-rounded and make everything better. Just don't bring Avilo. Avilo sits on his stream screaming X is OP. I saw a stream VOD of his after the phoenix upgrade patch. It was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. He posted a picture of an American flag, and says that Terran have to "fight for our freedom. Our freedom to win in the late game." Like some patriotic war hero! Avilo is a NUTJOB. Put a half decent pro Terran on the stream, not some angry guy wearing ugly outfits and screaming Protoss OP at every turn. My god sir, could you please link us to that. Please internet, find me this gem so I may enjoy it over and over when I have a bad day at work.
http://www.twitch.tv/avilo/b/308157534
This is the link right here. I watched this over and over again so hilarous. This is Avilo's credibility guys.
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On June 20 2012 13:32 phiinix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:26 cvt wrote:
Sorry if this has been answered but why not bring Illusion? Yea I was thinking the same thing. I would say if someone is going to rep NA terran, it would be qxc, illusion, and demuslim. That said, as a terran player, I don't really care about whether or not they have a rep on the show. What is he suppose to do, protect terrans and say that coming up with new strategies is really hard? All the terrans know that, all the zergs and protoss don't believe it. There's no need to have representation if it doesn't change what anyone thinks.
Heard the trickle-down theory? If the terran representative(s) speak of the new strats of terran the lower leagues WILL listen.
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On June 20 2012 13:20 iNcontroL wrote:
JP asks around for terrans guys.. bottom line is qxc is abroad and there aren't a lot of terrans to pull from. So instead he got Azael to discuss GESL and give some light to a different personality in the community.. one barely exposed. We discussed SC2 which includes terran and we will continue to discuss things like casting (when some of us aren't casters) tourneys (when some of us don't run tourneys) politics, business etc etc even if we aren't directly involved or expertly informed!
Everyone on that show is more than qualified to discuss the terran race and all the others.. certainly more so than 99.99999999% of you so I don't think you need to worry about us falling short of your terran knowledge or something.
But even if none of that compells you.. pull the stick out of your ass. This show NEVER had a balance in races played by the hosts. WISE THE FUCK UP or simply SHUT THE FUCK UP. Either one.. being upset at SOTG because of this particular issue at this point.. 2 years after it has been running makes you look REALLY dumb.
The thing is, every single Terran in the world right now believes TvZ is broken, including Mvp. The best Zerg in the world, DRG, says TvZ is insanely easy for him now. The 3 of you claimed this balance change is like "every other nerf in the history of SC2". But it really isn't. The stats since the change have caused the TvZ win rate to drop far further than every other change in the history of SC2. A lot of us just think the whole talk would benefit from that Terran perspective.
That being said - I agree, everyone on the show is 99.99999999% more qualified to discuss TvZ than all of us. But that doesn't mean another pro Terran can't be brought on. Or even DRG (I know it's impossible just saying  )
Also - I understand this show is about fun. I admit, I take this show too seriously some times. I'm sorry for the outburst. I forgot this show is about fun, something a lot of us forgot in this thread.
My apologies
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On June 20 2012 13:29 OtoshimonoU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:26 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:22 OtoshimonoU wrote:On June 20 2012 13:20 iNcontroL wrote:
JP asks around for terrans guys.. bottom line is qxc is abroad and there aren't a lot of terrans to pull from. So instead he got Azael to discuss GESL and give some light to a different personality in the community.. one barely exposed. We discussed SC2 which includes terran and we will continue to discuss things like casting (when some of us aren't casters) tourneys (when some of us don't run tourneys) politics, business etc etc even if we aren't directly involved or expertly informed!
Everyone on that show is more than qualified to discuss the terran race and all the others.. certainly more so than 99.99999999% of you so I don't think you need to worry about us falling short of your terran knowledge or something.
But even if none of that compells you.. pull the stick out of your ass. This show NEVER had a balance in races played by the hosts. WISE THE FUCK UP or simply SHUT THE FUCK UP. Either one.. being upset at SOTG because of this particular issue at this point.. 2 years after it has been running makes you look REALLY dumb. The game is changing... Nothing is being spoken... The majority of the viewers do not care. The game will change next month too and all I will want to see on SotG is Incontrol make fun of Artosis. At some point, HotS will come out and I will want to hear about for 10 minute on one episode and then I will be done. So 1/3 of the population doesn't matter? 
Its like 10% of 1/3, because 90% of terrans understand that Avilo is not the most rational, reasonable or normal person to have on. If they can get a good terran on the show great, but we don't need them finding any warm body who has a high masters account and played in a few MLGs.
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when qxc can't make it there is a small pool of others that I think would be fine on the show, consider Demuslim, Theognis, KawaiiRice or Illusion at the very least to help with the Terran side of the discussion.
There is always a lack of terrans on the show. 
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On June 20 2012 13:33 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:29 OtoshimonoU wrote:On June 20 2012 13:26 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:22 OtoshimonoU wrote:On June 20 2012 13:20 iNcontroL wrote:
JP asks around for terrans guys.. bottom line is qxc is abroad and there aren't a lot of terrans to pull from. So instead he got Azael to discuss GESL and give some light to a different personality in the community.. one barely exposed. We discussed SC2 which includes terran and we will continue to discuss things like casting (when some of us aren't casters) tourneys (when some of us don't run tourneys) politics, business etc etc even if we aren't directly involved or expertly informed!
Everyone on that show is more than qualified to discuss the terran race and all the others.. certainly more so than 99.99999999% of you so I don't think you need to worry about us falling short of your terran knowledge or something.
But even if none of that compells you.. pull the stick out of your ass. This show NEVER had a balance in races played by the hosts. WISE THE FUCK UP or simply SHUT THE FUCK UP. Either one.. being upset at SOTG because of this particular issue at this point.. 2 years after it has been running makes you look REALLY dumb. The game is changing... Nothing is being spoken... The majority of the viewers do not care. The game will change next month too and all I will want to see on SotG is Incontrol make fun of Artosis. At some point, HotS will come out and I will want to hear about for 10 minute on one episode and then I will be done. So 1/3 of the population doesn't matter? Its like 10% of 1/3, because 90% of terrans understand that Avilo is not the most rational, reasonable or normal person to have on. If they can get a good terran on the show great, but we don't need them finding any warm body who has a high masters account and played in a few MLGs.
Demuslim was killed off, qxc was killed, I heard thorzain was there? (probably dead) who else...
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demuslim is rather funny and a terran isn't he? Illusion comes to mind as well as gretorp.
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On June 20 2012 13:07 LambtrOn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 12:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
people take the name State of the Game too literally. The show isn't about the state of the game, its about hearing the pillars just talking starcraft and having fun. Then what's the point of even talking about all the things they talk about? Why can't the show be funny, entertaining while also covering major topics? It doesn't need to be black and white. I watch for both reasons. There aren't many shows out there like this, especially with the cast of this caliber. They've had good quality discussions on many important things in the past while still keeping it entertaining. That's why I personally watch the show. It's lame when they just say a few sentences about something and then just move on. It's a talk show after all... but I digress.
whats the point? ENTERTAINMENT!
The reason their aren't many shows out there like SotG is because of the chemistry the pillars have. Their relationships with each other go back years. No other show can really say that. the show is exactly what I said it was in my previous post, pillars talking starcraft and having fun. seeing it as something else isn't their fault.
they still have great discussions and the show is still fucking hilarious. i don't give a shit about the balance talk, its the most boring part of the show usually.
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I always love it when Gretorp is on =(
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On June 20 2012 13:20 iNcontroL wrote:
JP asks around for terrans guys.. bottom line is qxc is abroad and there aren't a lot of terrans to pull from. So instead he got Azael to discuss GESL and give some light to a different personality in the community.. one barely exposed. We discussed SC2 which includes terran and we will continue to discuss things like casting (when some of us aren't casters) tourneys (when some of us don't run tourneys) politics, business etc etc even if we aren't directly involved or expertly informed!
Everyone on that show is more than qualified to discuss the terran race and all the others.. certainly more so than 99.99999999% of you so I don't think you need to worry about us falling short of your terran knowledge or something.
But even if none of that compells you.. pull the stick out of your ass. This show NEVER had a balance in races played by the hosts. WISE THE FUCK UP or simply SHUT THE FUCK UP. Either one.. being upset at SOTG because of this particular issue at this point.. 2 years after it has been running makes you look REALLY dumb.
I completely understand that there aren't a lot of terrans to choose from. It was just frustrating to listen to Idra and Artosis say the TvZ issue will work itself out when there wasn't really a discussion on it. I know many terrans wanted to hear you guys actually talk about that. If you can't get a terran on, can someone please at least play devil's advocate for the sake of discussion? Just my humble opinion. Thank you for at least trying to get a terran on there, though.
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On June 20 2012 13:29 OtoshimonoU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:26 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:22 OtoshimonoU wrote:On June 20 2012 13:20 iNcontroL wrote:
JP asks around for terrans guys.. bottom line is qxc is abroad and there aren't a lot of terrans to pull from. So instead he got Azael to discuss GESL and give some light to a different personality in the community.. one barely exposed. We discussed SC2 which includes terran and we will continue to discuss things like casting (when some of us aren't casters) tourneys (when some of us don't run tourneys) politics, business etc etc even if we aren't directly involved or expertly informed!
Everyone on that show is more than qualified to discuss the terran race and all the others.. certainly more so than 99.99999999% of you so I don't think you need to worry about us falling short of your terran knowledge or something.
But even if none of that compells you.. pull the stick out of your ass. This show NEVER had a balance in races played by the hosts. WISE THE FUCK UP or simply SHUT THE FUCK UP. Either one.. being upset at SOTG because of this particular issue at this point.. 2 years after it has been running makes you look REALLY dumb. The game is changing... Nothing is being spoken... The majority of the viewers do not care. The game will change next month too and all I will want to see on SotG is Incontrol make fun of Artosis. At some point, HotS will come out and I will want to hear about for 10 minute on one episode and then I will be done. So 1/3 of the population doesn't matter?
I think you're taking this a little too seriously.
The show is just a bunch of guys joking around and talking Starcraft in a casual manner. If you feel somehow ripped off because theres no terran player involved, you need your priorities checked.
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On June 20 2012 13:36 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:07 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 12:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
people take the name State of the Game too literally. The show isn't about the state of the game, its about hearing the pillars just talking starcraft and having fun. Then what's the point of even talking about all the things they talk about? Why can't the show be funny, entertaining while also covering major topics? It doesn't need to be black and white. I watch for both reasons. There aren't many shows out there like this, especially with the cast of this caliber. They've had good quality discussions on many important things in the past while still keeping it entertaining. That's why I personally watch the show. It's lame when they just say a few sentences about something and then just move on. It's a talk show after all... but I digress. whats the point? ENTERTAINMENT! The reason their aren't many shows out there like SotG is because of the chemistry the pillars have. Their relationships with each other go back years. No other show can really say that. the show is exactly what I said it was in my previous post, pillars talking starcraft and having fun. seeing it as something else isn't their fault. they still have great discussions and the show is still fucking hilarious. i don't give a shit about the balance talk, its the most boring part of the show usually.
welcome to the Entertainment of the Game show
On June 20 2012 13:34 LuckyFool wrote:when qxc can't make it there is a small pool of others that I think would be fine on the show, consider Demuslim, Theognis, KawaiiRice or Illusion at the very least to help with the Terran side of the discussion. There is always a lack of terrans on the show.
this is so true though. illusion apparently wanted to come on though?
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On June 20 2012 13:33 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:23 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:18 Wingblade wrote:
Yes, bring a Terran on to give a full perspective, it honestly will make the show better, make the discussion more well-rounded and make everything better. Just don't bring Avilo. Avilo sits on his stream screaming X is OP. I saw a stream VOD of his after the phoenix upgrade patch. It was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. He posted a picture of an American flag, and says that Terran have to "fight for our freedom. Our freedom to win in the late game." Like some patriotic war hero! Avilo is a NUTJOB. Put a half decent pro Terran on the stream, not some angry guy wearing ugly outfits and screaming Protoss OP at every turn. My god sir, could you please link us to that. Please internet, find me this gem so I may enjoy it over and over when I have a bad day at work. http://www.twitch.tv/avilo/b/308157534This is the link right here. I watched this over and over again so hilarous. This is Avilo's credibility guys.
Oh my god, this is amazing. It is like a 14 year old screaming at the mic and demanding chocolate milk from his mom(if you have not seen that, type in "rainbow 6 chocolate milk" into google). Rational discussion, I am sure. I love the part he claims where David Kim has been watching Hello Kitty while writing the balance patch.
So, he can never be on SotG or any show period. His voice rips through my soul.
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On June 20 2012 13:36 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:07 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 12:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
people take the name State of the Game too literally. The show isn't about the state of the game, its about hearing the pillars just talking starcraft and having fun. Then what's the point of even talking about all the things they talk about? Why can't the show be funny, entertaining while also covering major topics? It doesn't need to be black and white. I watch for both reasons. There aren't many shows out there like this, especially with the cast of this caliber. They've had good quality discussions on many important things in the past while still keeping it entertaining. That's why I personally watch the show. It's lame when they just say a few sentences about something and then just move on. It's a talk show after all... but I digress. whats the point? ENTERTAINMENT! The reason their aren't many shows out there like SotG is because of the chemistry the pillars have. Their relationships with each other go back years. No other show can really say that. the show is exactly what I said it was in my previous post, pillars talking starcraft and having fun. seeing it as something else isn't their fault. they still have great discussions and the show is still fucking hilarious. i don't give a shit about the balance talk, its the most boring part of the show usually.
Not everyone watches the show for the same reasons. Excuse me for having an opinion on how I think the show could improve.
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On June 20 2012 13:29 OtoshimonoU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:26 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:22 OtoshimonoU wrote:On June 20 2012 13:20 iNcontroL wrote:
JP asks around for terrans guys.. bottom line is qxc is abroad and there aren't a lot of terrans to pull from. So instead he got Azael to discuss GESL and give some light to a different personality in the community.. one barely exposed. We discussed SC2 which includes terran and we will continue to discuss things like casting (when some of us aren't casters) tourneys (when some of us don't run tourneys) politics, business etc etc even if we aren't directly involved or expertly informed!
Everyone on that show is more than qualified to discuss the terran race and all the others.. certainly more so than 99.99999999% of you so I don't think you need to worry about us falling short of your terran knowledge or something.
But even if none of that compells you.. pull the stick out of your ass. This show NEVER had a balance in races played by the hosts. WISE THE FUCK UP or simply SHUT THE FUCK UP. Either one.. being upset at SOTG because of this particular issue at this point.. 2 years after it has been running makes you look REALLY dumb. The game is changing... Nothing is being spoken... The majority of the viewers do not care. The game will change next month too and all I will want to see on SotG is Incontrol make fun of Artosis. At some point, HotS will come out and I will want to hear about for 10 minute on one episode and then I will be done. So 1/3 of the population doesn't matter?
Terrans are more like 1/4th, unfortunately.
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On June 20 2012 13:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:33 Wingblade wrote:On June 20 2012 13:23 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:18 Wingblade wrote:
Yes, bring a Terran on to give a full perspective, it honestly will make the show better, make the discussion more well-rounded and make everything better. Just don't bring Avilo. Avilo sits on his stream screaming X is OP. I saw a stream VOD of his after the phoenix upgrade patch. It was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. He posted a picture of an American flag, and says that Terran have to "fight for our freedom. Our freedom to win in the late game." Like some patriotic war hero! Avilo is a NUTJOB. Put a half decent pro Terran on the stream, not some angry guy wearing ugly outfits and screaming Protoss OP at every turn. My god sir, could you please link us to that. Please internet, find me this gem so I may enjoy it over and over when I have a bad day at work. http://www.twitch.tv/avilo/b/308157534This is the link right here. I watched this over and over again so hilarous. This is Avilo's credibility guys. Oh my god, this is amazing. It is like a 14 year old screaming at the mic and demanding chocolate milk from his mom(if you have not seen that, type in "rainbow 6 chocolate milk" into google). Rational discussion, I am sure. I love the part he claims where David Kim has been watching Hello Kitty while writing the balance patch. So, he can never be on SotG or any show period. His voice rips through my soul.
I'm glad you agree. Some big names need to see this. I agree that was my favorite part to. Incontrol and some other people should see this. Never ever put this guy on SOTG or any show anywhere for any reason.
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On June 20 2012 13:43 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:40 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:33 Wingblade wrote:On June 20 2012 13:23 Plansix wrote:On June 20 2012 13:18 Wingblade wrote:
Yes, bring a Terran on to give a full perspective, it honestly will make the show better, make the discussion more well-rounded and make everything better. Just don't bring Avilo. Avilo sits on his stream screaming X is OP. I saw a stream VOD of his after the phoenix upgrade patch. It was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. He posted a picture of an American flag, and says that Terran have to "fight for our freedom. Our freedom to win in the late game." Like some patriotic war hero! Avilo is a NUTJOB. Put a half decent pro Terran on the stream, not some angry guy wearing ugly outfits and screaming Protoss OP at every turn. My god sir, could you please link us to that. Please internet, find me this gem so I may enjoy it over and over when I have a bad day at work. http://www.twitch.tv/avilo/b/308157534This is the link right here. I watched this over and over again so hilarous. This is Avilo's credibility guys. Oh my god, this is amazing. It is like a 14 year old screaming at the mic and demanding chocolate milk from his mom(if you have not seen that, type in "rainbow 6 chocolate milk" into google). Rational discussion, I am sure. I love the part he claims where David Kim has been watching Hello Kitty while writing the balance patch. So, he can never be on SotG or any show period. His voice rips through my soul. I'm glad you agree. Some big names need to see this. I agree that was my favorite part to. Incontrol and some other people should see this. Never ever put this guy on SOTG or any show anywhere for any reason.
He's been crazy like this since 2006 on CnC3. I'm sure Apollo will concur
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On June 20 2012 13:41 LambtrOn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:36 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 20 2012 13:07 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 12:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
people take the name State of the Game too literally. The show isn't about the state of the game, its about hearing the pillars just talking starcraft and having fun. Then what's the point of even talking about all the things they talk about? Why can't the show be funny, entertaining while also covering major topics? It doesn't need to be black and white. I watch for both reasons. There aren't many shows out there like this, especially with the cast of this caliber. They've had good quality discussions on many important things in the past while still keeping it entertaining. That's why I personally watch the show. It's lame when they just say a few sentences about something and then just move on. It's a talk show after all... but I digress. whats the point? ENTERTAINMENT! The reason their aren't many shows out there like SotG is because of the chemistry the pillars have. Their relationships with each other go back years. No other show can really say that. the show is exactly what I said it was in my previous post, pillars talking starcraft and having fun. seeing it as something else isn't their fault. they still have great discussions and the show is still fucking hilarious. i don't give a shit about the balance talk, its the most boring part of the show usually. Not everyone watches the show for the same reasons. Excuse me for having an opinion on how I think the show could improve.
you mean on how the show could change into something its not? I didn't say anything about why people watch the show. I said what the show is. The show hasn't been about balance in forever.
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On June 20 2012 13:46 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:41 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 13:36 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 20 2012 13:07 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 12:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
people take the name State of the Game too literally. The show isn't about the state of the game, its about hearing the pillars just talking starcraft and having fun. Then what's the point of even talking about all the things they talk about? Why can't the show be funny, entertaining while also covering major topics? It doesn't need to be black and white. I watch for both reasons. There aren't many shows out there like this, especially with the cast of this caliber. They've had good quality discussions on many important things in the past while still keeping it entertaining. That's why I personally watch the show. It's lame when they just say a few sentences about something and then just move on. It's a talk show after all... but I digress. whats the point? ENTERTAINMENT! The reason their aren't many shows out there like SotG is because of the chemistry the pillars have. Their relationships with each other go back years. No other show can really say that. the show is exactly what I said it was in my previous post, pillars talking starcraft and having fun. seeing it as something else isn't their fault. they still have great discussions and the show is still fucking hilarious. i don't give a shit about the balance talk, its the most boring part of the show usually. Not everyone watches the show for the same reasons. Excuse me for having an opinion on how I think the show could improve. you mean on how the show could change into something its not? I didn't say anything about why people watch the show. I said what the show is. The show hasn't been about balance in forever.
Right that's why they never go over patch notes or anything...oh wait.
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On June 20 2012 13:46 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 13:41 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 13:36 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 20 2012 13:07 LambtrOn wrote:On June 20 2012 12:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
people take the name State of the Game too literally. The show isn't about the state of the game, its about hearing the pillars just talking starcraft and having fun. Then what's the point of even talking about all the things they talk about? Why can't the show be funny, entertaining while also covering major topics? It doesn't need to be black and white. I watch for both reasons. There aren't many shows out there like this, especially with the cast of this caliber. They've had good quality discussions on many important things in the past while still keeping it entertaining. That's why I personally watch the show. It's lame when they just say a few sentences about something and then just move on. It's a talk show after all... but I digress. whats the point? ENTERTAINMENT! The reason their aren't many shows out there like SotG is because of the chemistry the pillars have. Their relationships with each other go back years. No other show can really say that. the show is exactly what I said it was in my previous post, pillars talking starcraft and having fun. seeing it as something else isn't their fault. they still have great discussions and the show is still fucking hilarious. i don't give a shit about the balance talk, its the most boring part of the show usually. Not everyone watches the show for the same reasons. Excuse me for having an opinion on how I think the show could improve. you mean on how the show could change into something its not? I didn't say anything about why people watch the show. I said what the show is. The show hasn't been about balance in forever.
The game was rather steadfast before, no?
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