EPTquality post there.
if avilo wants to shit talk geoff at least beat him 1v1, then he can shit talk geoff without question.
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
quality post there. if avilo wants to shit talk geoff at least beat him 1v1, then he can shit talk geoff without question. | ||
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s3rp
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
No thanks. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:42 RedMage wrote: And he's written about TvZ balance for longer than almost anyone else: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=171331 I was being sarcastic. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:44 avilo wrote: Excuse me? Entitled? Talk about entitlement. These guys are pillars of the community and they will shit talk/down talk whoever they want and try to determine's people careers with their words without giving a flying fuck. Why is this relevant to what I was saying. Well I guess it is, because your strong feelings against them is a GREAT reason of why they wouldn't want you on the show. I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with your views about them shit talking, but lets just say it is completely true for the sake of argument... does that then mean that they should bring you on the show? State of the game from what I've seen rarely actualy talks about the state of the game, and when they do, it's a panel of 3-5 protoss/zerg players which is obviously the most skewed perspective on earth. I called them out - get a Terran on the show, otherwise I am very willing to get on and debate them/discuss with them the actual state of the game, especially giving the Terran perspective on it. Again, that's great and all... and they would like to have a terran on for discussion if possible, but they didn't have anyone available who they would like to discuss it with. That's what JP said. On a side note, for all the shit talking Incontrol does - I finished top 32 WCS, a round further than incontrol. Just food for thought. And for the life of me, I was watching a cast yesterday of a gsl game of MKP vs symbol where artosis didn't even know what one of the raven upgrades did/cost or what not @_@ Okay... you post things like this, but wonder why they don't want to have you on the show? I just... Just saying, a Terran perspective is needed. Otherwise, yes, it is a "p/z circlejerk." And that's fine if people enjoy that sort of thing i suppose. I'm not sure how it is "needed." It is a show they do for fun, and a large portion of the show (arguably the primary one) is entertainment. Having a terran on the show is ideal, but there were none who they wanted to discuss the balance with, who they felt would work well on the show. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50609 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:56 Rulker wrote: quality post there. if avilo wants to shit talk geoff at least beat him 1v1, then he can shit talk geoff without question. what? I am entertained by his challenge. | ||
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Elvin
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iNcontroL
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 Sucks to find out you just blasted someone who was giving you complements but then calls you out and YOU KNOW you'd lose to me  | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:58 Elvin wrote: Someone. please get the incontrol out of the future shows. The podcast quality would increase immensely. That happened for a few shows, and it was terrible. I don't always agree with what he says or how he says it, but.. he's a character. It's worth it. | ||
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Tabbris
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:58 Elvin wrote: Someone. please get the incontrol out of the future shows. The podcast quality would increase immensely. Did you watch SoTG without incontrol? The quality dropped terribly in those episodes. He brings a LOT to SoTG and whenever he isn't there, it's very apparent. | ||
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LambtrOn
United States671 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:42 Nimic wrote: How incredibly juvenile. No one has said that they're going to stop watching (or if someone has, why focus on them? Most of us aren't). No one has said that SotG should be exactly like this. Building up these ridiculous straw men that you can easily take apart doesn't make you look smart. I never said anyone said SotG should be exactly like anything, nor did I say anyone said they were going to stop watching. Did you read my post? I was simply pointing out that the constant whining from some (not all) is ridiculous and comes off as being entitled, and if some are going to get so angry maybe they shouldn't watch the show. Suggestions are good for this thread, being a whiny bitch is not. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: i actually talked you up on this show.. 0 shit talk This is also a week after I promoted your stream. My bad though.. Yes, and I appreciate that promoting my stream, I saw. You "talked me up" after the fact of censoring me in the SOTG chat after I offered to give you a Terran perspective on this show and after you had a few laughs at my expense. On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote: but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? I never once said I was better or worse than you. You're avoiding the issue. I challenged you/SOTG to bring a Terran onto the show, otherwise I would be very willing to give a Terran perspective. I already have "manned up," these guys were unwilling to bring me onto the show for even a split second, ironically to give a Terran perspective on a show called "State of the Game." On June 20 2012 11:59 iNcontroL wrote: avilo got pretty silent there Sucks to find out you just blasted someone who was giving you complements but then calls you out and YOU KNOW you'd lose to me I just refreshed the thread  Nice try on completely avoiding my challenge to you Geoff. Bring me on the show, what's wrong with a Terran perspective? This is not about a showmatch/ego (maybe it is to you). If you want to challenge me to such a thing at another time, we could most likely arrange that.That is not what this is about. Get a Terran on the show. Or do not talk. p.s. you're pretty good with the lil PR tricks "oh omg now im the good guy i threw you a bone !" I called SOTG out. SOTG has not responded as of yet. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:59 iNcontroL wrote: avilo got pretty silent there Sucks to find out you just blasted someone who was giving you complements but then calls you out and YOU KNOW you'd lose to me You should just invite a gold league Terran (isn't Total Biscuit terran?) just to spite Avilo. Say you scoured long and hard to find a terran representative and you we're thoroughly impressed with (insert Terran's name) one base battleship play. Edit: also Avilo, you know Demuslim has been on the show and so has QXC. I didn't know the best way to express interest on appearing on a popular show was to whine on a public forum. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:03 happyness wrote: I never said anyone said SotG should be exactly like anything, nor did I say anyone said they were going to stop watching. Did you read my post? I was simply pointing out that the constant whining from some (not all) is ridiculous and comes off as being entitled, and if some are going to get so angry maybe they shouldn't watch the show. Suggestions are good for this thread, being a whiny bitch is not. What? You literally said that. I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_- | ||
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mambar
United States841 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 20 2012 12:04 avilo wrote: On June 20 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: i actually talked you up on this show.. 0 shit talk This is also a week after I promoted your stream. My bad though.. Yes, and I appreciate that promoting my stream, I saw. You "talked me up" after the fact of censoring me in the SOTG chat after I offered to give you a Terran perspective on this show and after you had a few laughs at my expense. On June 20 2012 11:52 iNcontroL wrote: but yes you placed higher than me, do you think you are better than me? Care to do a bo5/7 for 100$ or so? I never once said I was better or worse than you. You're avoiding the issue. I challenged you/SOTG to bring a Terran onto the show, otherwise I would be very willing to give a Terran perspective. I already have "manned up," these guys were unwilling to bring me onto the show for even a split second, ironically to give a Terran perspective on a show called "State of the Game." On June 20 2012 11:59 iNcontroL wrote: avilo got pretty silent there Sucks to find out you just blasted someone who was giving you complements but then calls you out and YOU KNOW you'd lose to me I just refreshed the thread Nice try on completely avoiding my challenge to you Geoff. Bring me on the show, what's wrong with a Terran perspective? This is not about a showmatch/ego (maybe it is to you). If you want to challenge me to such a thing at another time, we could most likely arrange that.That is not what this is about. Get a Terran on the show. Or do not talk. p.s. you're pretty good with the lil PR tricks "oh omg now im the good guy i threw you a bone !" I called SOTG out. SOTG has not responded as of yet. dodged? | ||
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time. Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it. Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem? 1) Did you seriously think that they would let you on after that petty outburst? I mean, really. Really, honestly, thinking about it, did you think you'd get on? That's exactly what a rando from the community does every show, I promise you. "LOL, YOU'RE AFRAID OF ME," is not going to get you nothing but a troll. 2) "No whine here, but [whine x10]" is just as bad as "No offense, but [insult]." It makes you sound retarded, like you don't even know what you're going to say in the next five seconds. 3) SOTG has literally never had a Terran pillar, but people were always happy with it before. It's just that people think a sudden 2 range increase on the Queen has turned Zerg IMBA, when like Incontrol said on the Dreamhack cast, it's more like "Zerg have figured out Queens are good. That makes it harder for Terran, but they can handle it." People want another Terran on there to confirm their bitching about the TvZ imba, and you going on there with a fucking 13% winrate TvZ according to Liquipedia isn't going to do anything but give them exactly what the Crying Marines want. That's just feeding a cycle, so why in the fuck would JP and the cast do that? Do they really come at you like a group of people who are going to feed bullshit because some Terran that is 3-20 vZ is bitching in chat like he's entitled to being on the show? On June 20 2012 11:44 avilo wrote: Excuse me? Entitled? Talk about entitlement. These guys are pillars of the community and they will shit talk/down talk whoever they want and try to determine's people careers with their words without giving a flying fuck. State of the game from what I've seen rarely actualy talks about the state of the game, and when they do, it's a panel of 3-5 protoss/zerg players which is obviously the most skewed perspective on earth. I called them out - get a Terran on the show, otherwise I am very willing to get on and debate them/discuss with them the actual state of the game, especially giving the Terran perspective on it. On a side note, for all the shit talking Incontrol does - I finished top 32 WCS, a round further than incontrol. Just food for thought. And for the life of me, I was watching a cast yesterday of a gsl game of MKP vs symbol where artosis didn't even know what one of the raven upgrades did/cost or what not @_@ Just saying, a Terran perspective is needed. Otherwise, yes, it is a "p/z circlejerk." And that's fine if people enjoy that sort of thing i suppose. Without giving a flying fuck? They specifically avoided talking about the Orb situation and stuff because they didn't know enough about it, which is more than ANY OTHER SHOW IN THE ENTIRETY OF SC2 did. They'll troll you if you're being a dick, but that's about it in the "not giving a fuck" section. You called them out, about as rudely and beliggerently as you could, they didn't take you, and now you're bitching on the open forum. Wow, and why didn't they think it'd be a good discussion to have you on? Ah, okay. They don't want you on the show, so now you're shit talking them in their own thread. Nice. People bitch that not wearing a tie is ESPORTS CLASSY enough, but this guys, this is legit because he's a goddamned Terran that thinks vZ is imba. This is the definition of a petulant child not getting his way, so he's throwing shit at the walls and hoping JP will come in to clean it up and do whatever avilo wants so that he'll stop throwing it. Sorry buddy, it's not going to happen. PROTIP: Quit while you're ahead. Unless you want people to just have the idea "bitchy, unprofessional avilo" stuck in their head. And it'll be great, because SOTG will have done nothing but not want you on their show, which is their prerogative. If they can't have QxC they dont' want anyone else. Sorry, you're definitely not QxC, so there. | ||
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sGSyntax
Canada5 Posts
Was it me or did Artosis sound horribly biased and completely clueless? | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
It was a bit ridiculous against air, but if they made it a bit weaker against air, I think it would be great to keep in. | ||
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