On June 20 2012 11:17 Sroobz wrote: Okay Incontrol. Please. I don't want to hear this bullshit about killing myself. I love you dude. I just heard 15 minutes of TvZ with no T perspective. The chat wants T perspective because of this.
TURN THE CHANNEL YOU SCRUB LOL
so stupid to complain about something like that rofl
What? How is what I said stupid? ...
I am still a fan though dude. Please hear us out...
The problem is that he made some sort of caricature of how the Terran complaints would be like. Actually, it's probably accurate for a few people, and those people should just be ignored. But the problem is that they're not ignored. They're used as the example for the entire community. Some jackass says something stupid, and suddenly "the thread" is saying that stuff. It's what he used to do with Reddit. Of course there's some idiots on reddit who say stupid stuff. But most people won't.
Well I respect Incontrol, Idra, and Artosis tremendously. I just wanted to hear the Terran perspective... I think it's completely valid to complain about this.
On June 20 2012 11:21 Dzerzhinsky wrote: People aren't saying that you shouldn't discuss Terran. People are saying that discussion of Terran balance issues would be infinitely more interesting if there was an actual Terran player involved to provide that perspective (rather than just having Zergs and Protosses mock Terran players for 15 minutes).
Why? They did the same thing when Zerg was struggling, they either had IdrA on and argued with/made fun of him or made fun of him when he wasn't there.
People just want a Terran on there to validate their own complaints.
Because it's fucking State of the Game and they should discuss topics with all view points heard. There was no terran to defend the race. It's getting a little ridiculous.
well on the other hand, two people who have a high understanding of the game and play protoss (therefore lacking any bias towards the matchup) have opined that TvZ is in the middle of a metagame shift, not completely imbalanced towards z
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
I don't think they take you seriously , like you , want you on the show i guess.
A separate event is twice as much money. Of course the players want the extra events, but it can't always happen that way, these guys need to run businesses. If the event is staggered correctly you can get all the benefits of separate events with hype and attention with the lowered cost and double viewers.
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
It's not your show and they don't want you on. With your pseudo-abrasive/passive-aggressive tone, I can't blame them unless they do it for the lulz.
And no offense, but you're known for qqing about terran.
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
yeah... I think it's more that no one takes you seriously, rather than that they don't want terran opinions.
On June 20 2012 11:17 Sroobz wrote: Okay Incontrol. Please. I don't want to hear this bullshit about killing myself. I love you dude. I just heard 15 minutes of TvZ with no T perspective. The chat wants T perspective because of this.
TURN THE CHANNEL YOU SCRUB LOL
so stupid to complain about something like that rofl
What? How is what I said stupid? ...
I am still a fan though dude. Please hear us out...
The problem is that he made some sort of caricature of how the Terran complaints would be like. Actually, it's probably accurate for a few people, and those people should just be ignored. But the problem is that they're not ignored. They're used as the example for the entire community. Some jackass says something stupid, and suddenly "the thread" is saying that stuff. It's what he used to do with Reddit. Of course there's some idiots on reddit who say stupid stuff. But most people won't.
Well I respect Incontrol, Idra, and Artosis tremendously. I just wanted to hear the Terran perspective... I think it's completely valid to complain about this.
I just spent the entire weekend throwing stalker-esque tweets and reddit posts directed at iNcontroL (and Khaldor). I really like him. And also like Artosis, and yeah.. Idra too. But you know there's something wrong when you get the feeling that Idra is the defender of the terran race.
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
It's pretty simple... they don't want you on the show. If qxc or Demuslim were available and willing then it would be a different story, but they just have no interest in discussing it with you.
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
It's pretty simple... they don't want you on the show. If qxc or Demuslim were available and willing then it would be a different story, but they just have no interest in discussing it with you.
Any other things you'd like me to explain to you?
Why are you speaking in behalf of them? Why don't you just fuck off, please.
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
I don't see what qualifies you to be a Terran representative for talking balance
On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem?
It's pretty simple... they don't want you on the show. If qxc or Demuslim were available and willing then it would be a different story, but they just have no interest in discussing it with you.
Any other things you'd like me to explain to you?
Why are you speaking in behalf of them? Why don't you just fuck off, please.
Calm down. There is no reason to tell people to fuck off. Regardless, I am just saying what JP said. He mentioned bringing on qxc, but said he wasn't available, and Geoff mentioned Avilo who they all just shrugged off. It can't really be more apparent, yet Avilo was still going on about it as if he is entitled.
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