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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 20 2012 03:08 GMT
#46081
inc is the hero terrans deserve
d=(^_^)z
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 20 2012 03:08 GMT
#46082
I didn't censor you at all avilo.. jp runs this show bud and I don't have mod of the chat atm cause I am not logged in as I am in sweden.

I also just asked that we bring you in and they said no...

you really are barking up the wrong tree.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 20 2012 03:09 GMT
#46083
On June 20 2012 12:05 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 12:03 happyness wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:42 Nimic wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:40 happyness wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:25 LambtrOn wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:23 walklightwhat wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:21 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
People aren't saying that you shouldn't discuss Terran. People are saying that discussion of Terran balance issues would be infinitely more interesting if there was an actual Terran player involved to provide that perspective (rather than just having Zergs and Protosses mock Terran players for 15 minutes).


Why? They did the same thing when Zerg was struggling, they either had IdrA on and argued with/made fun of him or made fun of him when he wasn't there.

People just want a Terran on there to validate their own complaints.

Because it's fucking State of the Game and they should discuss topics with all view points heard. There was no terran to defend the race. It's getting a little ridiculous.


We deserve a terran player!! How dare they take away what we are entitled too!! I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_-

Seriously, people need to lighten up. This show is meant for some entertaining figures in the SC2 community to discuss starcraft, and that's it. Why do some members of the community need to complain about what this show "ought" to be? Just enjoy it. If you can't, then don't listen.


How incredibly juvenile. No one has said that they're going to stop watching (or if someone has, why focus on them? Most of us aren't). No one has said that SotG should be exactly like this. Building up these ridiculous straw men that you can easily take apart doesn't make you look smart.


I never said anyone said SotG should be exactly like anything, nor did I say anyone said they were going to stop watching. Did you read my post? I was simply pointing out that the constant whining from some (not all) is ridiculous and comes off as being entitled, and if some are going to get so angry maybe they shouldn't watch the show.

Suggestions are good for this thread, being a whiny bitch is not.


What? You literally said that.

Show nested quote +
I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_-


are you serious? :O
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
June 20 2012 03:10 GMT
#46084
On June 20 2012 12:06 sGSyntax wrote:Was it me or did Artosis sound horribly biased and completely clueless?


no, but you do :3
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 20 2012 03:10 GMT
#46085
we're considering to have avilo represent the terran race? LOL we're so screwed.
The Notorious Winkles
PesteNoire
Profile Joined June 2012
151 Posts
June 20 2012 03:10 GMT
#46086
On June 20 2012 11:59 iNcontroL wrote:
avilo got pretty silent there Sucks to find out you just blasted someone who was giving you complements but then calls you out and YOU KNOW you'd lose to me


Avilo still more qualified to speak on state of T in TvZ than you are. MVP, DRG, MMA, SUPERNOVA, and just about every relavent high GM NA/EU Terran have publicly and privately said there is an big issue (not just one that will "work itself out") in TvZ and the issue was quickly swept under the rug on the show. It was very sad to watch.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#46087
I seriously think it would be embarrassing to SotG if they brought on avilo x_x;
sorry dude you're a fine guy but your idea of the game is really lacking and pretty silly compared to everyone else's. And it's not a personal grudge or anything, when I asked to be on once when they were lacking a person they also said no, and (I don't mean to be rude or anything) in the eyes of most people I am probably slightly more qualified than you (again, not that I'm a better player or w/e, just more popularity etc).
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 03:13:25
June 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#46088
On June 20 2012 12:09 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 12:05 Nimic wrote:
On June 20 2012 12:03 happyness wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:42 Nimic wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:40 happyness wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:25 LambtrOn wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:23 walklightwhat wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:21 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
People aren't saying that you shouldn't discuss Terran. People are saying that discussion of Terran balance issues would be infinitely more interesting if there was an actual Terran player involved to provide that perspective (rather than just having Zergs and Protosses mock Terran players for 15 minutes).


Why? They did the same thing when Zerg was struggling, they either had IdrA on and argued with/made fun of him or made fun of him when he wasn't there.

People just want a Terran on there to validate their own complaints.

Because it's fucking State of the Game and they should discuss topics with all view points heard. There was no terran to defend the race. It's getting a little ridiculous.


We deserve a terran player!! How dare they take away what we are entitled too!! I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_-

Seriously, people need to lighten up. This show is meant for some entertaining figures in the SC2 community to discuss starcraft, and that's it. Why do some members of the community need to complain about what this show "ought" to be? Just enjoy it. If you can't, then don't listen.


How incredibly juvenile. No one has said that they're going to stop watching (or if someone has, why focus on them? Most of us aren't). No one has said that SotG should be exactly like this. Building up these ridiculous straw men that you can easily take apart doesn't make you look smart.


I never said anyone said SotG should be exactly like anything, nor did I say anyone said they were going to stop watching. Did you read my post? I was simply pointing out that the constant whining from some (not all) is ridiculous and comes off as being entitled, and if some are going to get so angry maybe they shouldn't watch the show.

Suggestions are good for this thread, being a whiny bitch is not.


What? You literally said that.

I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_-


are you serious? :O


If you're referring to his obvious parody, then yes, I realize he was pretending to be someone else. My point was never that
he wants it to conform exactly to his wants, but that that is what he suggested the rest of us think.

I quoted that because he then said he never suggested that people wanted SotG to be exactly like anything, when.. yeah, that's literally what he did.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
June 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#46089
On June 20 2012 12:09 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 12:05 Nimic wrote:
On June 20 2012 12:03 happyness wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:42 Nimic wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:40 happyness wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:25 LambtrOn wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:23 walklightwhat wrote:
On June 20 2012 11:21 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
People aren't saying that you shouldn't discuss Terran. People are saying that discussion of Terran balance issues would be infinitely more interesting if there was an actual Terran player involved to provide that perspective (rather than just having Zergs and Protosses mock Terran players for 15 minutes).


Why? They did the same thing when Zerg was struggling, they either had IdrA on and argued with/made fun of him or made fun of him when he wasn't there.

People just want a Terran on there to validate their own complaints.

Because it's fucking State of the Game and they should discuss topics with all view points heard. There was no terran to defend the race. It's getting a little ridiculous.


We deserve a terran player!! How dare they take away what we are entitled too!! I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_-

Seriously, people need to lighten up. This show is meant for some entertaining figures in the SC2 community to discuss starcraft, and that's it. Why do some members of the community need to complain about what this show "ought" to be? Just enjoy it. If you can't, then don't listen.


How incredibly juvenile. No one has said that they're going to stop watching (or if someone has, why focus on them? Most of us aren't). No one has said that SotG should be exactly like this. Building up these ridiculous straw men that you can easily take apart doesn't make you look smart.


I never said anyone said SotG should be exactly like anything, nor did I say anyone said they were going to stop watching. Did you read my post? I was simply pointing out that the constant whining from some (not all) is ridiculous and comes off as being entitled, and if some are going to get so angry maybe they shouldn't watch the show.

Suggestions are good for this thread, being a whiny bitch is not.


What? You literally said that.

I demand the show to conform exactly to my wants! ....-_-


are you serious? :O

The point is, how can you have a show called State of the Game with no terran? It's so frustrating when we wanted to hear thoughts on an issue and there's no one there to defend. Idra and Artosis just told us to deal with it. Some form of discussion would've been nice.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 03:13:34
June 20 2012 03:13 GMT
#46090
They didn't make the Reaper better what the hell is Artosis talking about they made it even worse.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
June 20 2012 03:13 GMT
#46091
On June 20 2012 12:12 Pokebunny wrote:
I seriously think it would be embarrassing to SotG if they brought on avilo x_x;
sorry dude you're a fine guy but your idea of the game is really lacking and pretty silly compared to everyone else's. And it's not a personal grudge or anything, when I asked to be on once when they were lacking a person they also said no, and (I don't mean to be rude or anything) in the eyes of most people I am probably slightly more qualified than you (again, not that I'm a better player or w/e, just more popularity etc).

Get Pokebunny on there!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 20 2012 03:14 GMT
#46092
On June 20 2012 12:13 LambtrOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 12:12 Pokebunny wrote:
I seriously think it would be embarrassing to SotG if they brought on avilo x_x;
sorry dude you're a fine guy but your idea of the game is really lacking and pretty silly compared to everyone else's. And it's not a personal grudge or anything, when I asked to be on once when they were lacking a person they also said no, and (I don't mean to be rude or anything) in the eyes of most people I am probably slightly more qualified than you (again, not that I'm a better player or w/e, just more popularity etc).

Get Pokebunny on there!

-shrug- I guess I am not up to their standards of importance in the scene etc... I'd of course love to go on, I consider myself well spoken and have a lot of thoughts but I am happy just to watch
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 20 2012 03:14 GMT
#46093
On June 20 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:
I didn't censor you at all avilo.. jp runs this show bud and I don't have mod of the chat atm cause I am not logged in as I am in sweden.

I also just asked that we bring you in and they said no...

you really are barking up the wrong tree.


Your call geoff, I simply want a pleasant conversation and a Terran perspective on SOTG. I'm willing to get on the call.
Sup
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 20 2012 03:15 GMT
#46094
On June 20 2012 12:14 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 12:13 LambtrOn wrote:
On June 20 2012 12:12 Pokebunny wrote:
I seriously think it would be embarrassing to SotG if they brought on avilo x_x;
sorry dude you're a fine guy but your idea of the game is really lacking and pretty silly compared to everyone else's. And it's not a personal grudge or anything, when I asked to be on once when they were lacking a person they also said no, and (I don't mean to be rude or anything) in the eyes of most people I am probably slightly more qualified than you (again, not that I'm a better player or w/e, just more popularity etc).

Get Pokebunny on there!

-shrug- I guess I am not up to their standards of importance in the scene etc... I'd of course love to go on, I consider myself well spoken and have a lot of thoughts but I am happy just to watch


You'd be SO MUCH BETTER then avilo.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 20 2012 03:15 GMT
#46095
I'm a low-mid masters terran player, I'm willing to go on JP
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 03:17:02
June 20 2012 03:16 GMT
#46096
I missed part of the show, were they actually looking for a Terran or did avilo just decide to volunteer himself because he felt people were being unfair to Terran?
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 20 2012 03:17 GMT
#46097
I am endorsing Pokebunny for Terran Spokesman 2012.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 20 2012 03:17 GMT
#46098
On June 20 2012 12:16 Pokebunny wrote:
I missed part of the show, were they actually looking for a Terran or did avilo just decide to volunteer himself because he felt people were being unfair to him?

They weren't looking for a terran. Avilo is just being obnoxious.
d=(^_^)z
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 20 2012 03:17 GMT
#46099
On June 20 2012 12:14 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:
I didn't censor you at all avilo.. jp runs this show bud and I don't have mod of the chat atm cause I am not logged in as I am in sweden.

I also just asked that we bring you in and they said no...

you really are barking up the wrong tree.


Your call geoff, I simply want a pleasant conversation and a Terran perspective on SOTG. I'm willing to get on the call.


I can't tell if you are reading the posts you quote or not. I literally just said it IS NOT MY CALL.

LITERALLY.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 20 2012 03:18 GMT
#46100
On June 20 2012 12:10 PesteNoire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 11:59 iNcontroL wrote:
avilo got pretty silent there Sucks to find out you just blasted someone who was giving you complements but then calls you out and YOU KNOW you'd lose to me


Avilo still more qualified to speak on state of T in TvZ than you are. MVP, DRG, MMA, SUPERNOVA, and just about every relavent high GM NA/EU Terran have publicly and privately said there is an big issue (not just one that will "work itself out") in TvZ and the issue was quickly swept under the rug on the show. It was very sad to watch.


Well I don't need a 40 minute discussion on this month's TLPD Winrates and what it means when one match up is not 50/50. I also don't need to see Avilo on the stream. Bring on QXC, Painuser or someone funny who will engage in a reasonable discussion.

I look forward to the month when one race has a great win rate and we talk about the players who got it there. Rather than every month people using the win rates as an excuse to ask for their race to be buffed.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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