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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 04 2012 00:51 GMT
#44301
I'm sorry for JP, but even if he's master on NA, his cast is not very good.
It's okay, but it's definitly not his thing. He's probably better at other stuff.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
May 04 2012 00:51 GMT
#44302
Why is artosis saying that just because JP is master league that he's a good caster? That's a logical fallacy. So is saying that Korean casters aren't as good as foreign ones because they have scripts and shit. Doesn't that make them better? Like objectively better? The ability to access more resources would directly make it better to watch.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
May 04 2012 00:52 GMT
#44303
Artosis, the Korean casters aren't given some sort of live-analysis during games although they are indeed given statistics and whatnot. They actually see specific actions done by the players and they make very good calls on why the players are doing them. You think there are 20 experts sitting under the table and feeding the casters what to say?

You are the closest English speaking caster to them in terms of high level analysis, but you're missing what people like about the Korean casters, which is that they are good at analysis, not that they have statistics and good stories.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 04 2012 00:55 GMT
#44304
Don't people like Korean casters more because they are more energetic and bring more excitement to the table?

I don't know how a script can help with that. Of course I don't know anything about casting so I'm just talking from my limited perspective
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:56:06
May 04 2012 00:55 GMT
#44305
On May 04 2012 09:52 Sein wrote:
Artosis, the Korean casters aren't given some sort of live-analysis during games although they are indeed given statistics and whatnot. They actually see specific actions done by the players and they make very good calls on why the players are doing them. You think there are 20 experts sitting under the table and feeding the casters what to say?

You are the closest English speaking caster to them in terms of high level analysis, but you're missing what people like about the Korean casters, which is that they are good at analysis, not that they have statistics and good stories.

Not just high level analysis, but also the aspect Nony mentioned; talking about all the actions in a positive light.

And yes, ''PLAYGUUUUUUUUU'' helps too.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:57:45
May 04 2012 00:55 GMT
#44306
I think the major aspect about casting is not only knowledge but also soft skills and being able to talk entertainingly and refreshing. I enjoy Tastosis, Apollo, Grubby and Hasuobs the most because they are both very knowledgable AND pleasant on the ears, refreshing and funny. No bashing intended, but because it was addressed by Artosis: I personally find JPs casting boring, no matter if what he says is based on master's level or not. That is my personal opinion.

There are casters that make me stop watching streams, there are casters I can tolerate and there are casters (the ones above) for which I would tune in even if I do not care about the players that are playing.

If you want to compare casters to normal sports, you should rather compare them to the specialists that do the preshow and aftershow analysis. Like at football world and euro cups, they always got 2-3 experts in the studio that discuss details. The normal commentary is just play by play then for a major audience. But that is also because in most sports the bigger strategical picture is not obvious all the time if it exists at all (depending on the sport).
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
May 04 2012 00:56 GMT
#44307
I really have NO clue we people criticise JP's casting. He's one of my favorate casters. Why do they always pair him with Rob SImpson who thinks armory in tvp means thors?
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 04 2012 00:58 GMT
#44308
TLO is the GSTL???

Can't wait to see Jinro in the GSTL!
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 04 2012 00:58 GMT
#44309
On May 04 2012 09:56 b0rt_ wrote:
I really have NO clue we people criticise JP's casting. He's one of my favorate casters. Why do they always pair him with Rob SImpson who thinks armory in tvp means thors?


I think the problem come with giving the camera control to JP while he's casting.
He has trouble handling both observing and casting ( every caster have the problem really ) and it make his casting worse.

Never had an opportunity to see him cast without this burden on him.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 04 2012 00:59 GMT
#44310
TLO is! Omg this is going to be awesome!
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 04 2012 01:03 GMT
#44311
On May 04 2012 09:56 b0rt_ wrote:
I really have NO clue we people criticise JP's casting. He's one of my favorate casters. Why do they always pair him with Rob SImpson who thinks armory in tvp means thors?

That was one of the best wtf caster moments i've seen in any high level event :D
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 04 2012 01:04 GMT
#44312
Whoa. DAT CAT.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 04 2012 01:05 GMT
#44313
Rob isn't that bad, hell I like him he just needs to be paired with someone like Artosis. Rob is cool as a play by play guy
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 04 2012 01:08 GMT
#44314
Incontrol never fails to amuse me. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 04 2012 01:08 GMT
#44315
@Tyler,

Squirtle Squad**

The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 04 2012 01:09 GMT
#44316
On May 04 2012 10:08 Holgerius wrote:
Incontrol never fails to amuse me. ^__^

Yep haha
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
May 04 2012 01:09 GMT
#44317
Lost what little respect for SotG I had remaining with this episode. If it wasn't for Artosis being such a consistent contributor to the show, then it would be impossible for me to actually careless about it. Even Artosis has lost a lot of respect in my eyes with mocking his fellow employees at GOM, while in no position to do so, and being so ridiculously defensive about his own casting.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
MegaBuster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
167 Posts
May 04 2012 01:09 GMT
#44318
JP remember when people made you nice overlays because you said your Graphic Designer was being held up. (Apparently for like 3 months)

Why didn't you use any of them?

http://imgur.com/3ZyAy

TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
May 04 2012 01:11 GMT
#44319
On May 04 2012 09:52 Sein wrote:
Artosis, the Korean casters aren't given some sort of live-analysis during games although they are indeed given statistics and whatnot. They actually see specific actions done by the players and they make very good calls on why the players are doing them. You think there are 20 experts sitting under the table and feeding the casters what to say?

You are the closest English speaking caster to them in terms of high level analysis, but you're missing what people like about the Korean casters, which is that they are good at analysis, not that they have statistics and good stories.


Listen, unless you actually have better inside knowledge on how things work, then Artosis, you arent really in the position to correct him.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 04 2012 01:11 GMT
#44320
Nah, Squirtle smashes everyone in PvP.
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