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anyone know when/where to catch sotg?
yeah but will it be streamed?
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Looks like its going to be a really short episode as well.
Cruel cruel world.
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is that 10:30 EST? thats freaking early for me. =(
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On April 08 2012 10:49 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 09:42 WolfintheSheep wrote:On April 08 2012 08:48 rotegirte wrote:On April 08 2012 06:41 ShinobiX wrote:On April 08 2012 04:39 Zaqwe wrote:On April 08 2012 04:29 ShinobiX wrote:On April 08 2012 03:24 Zaqwe wrote:On April 08 2012 03:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 08 2012 02:00 MarcH wrote:Im still confused as to why this is an issue? So she is transgender so what who really cares?. I have no idea how you can read everything you just responded to and not realize that she cares. She directly asks people to respectfully refer to her as female. Lennoxito and truthbombDROPPER flaunt their ignorant views when they know they are disrespectful. Whether or not they are just playing dumb and acting like they don't understand the nuances does not matter when it is clear that they are purposely disrespectful. If they don't understand something then they can humbly ask for explanations. They can also make it a point to not do exactly what has been clearly stated is disrespectful. Not only were they disrespectful to Scarlett, they're disrespectful to everyone else and to the mods. One said we're in denial and the other said mods are petty for banning someone for speaking the truth (when in fact it was not the truth but ignorance and deliberate disrespect). Gamegene is nice enough to give them a hint that can start them on their own research if they really want to but also calls them out on the fact that they're purposely being dicks. Lennoxito contradicts him. I'm nice enough to explain the basic difference in 6 words. And then aebriol swoops down from the Ivory Tower and gives us a study on how academics have increasingly used gender synonymously with sex. However the study isn't relevant because it's over a decade old and it isn't arguing that there aren't nuances when talking about a person like Scarlett or discussing gender issues. It is merely showing how prevalent it was to ignore the possibilities of such nuances whenever possible. In other words, the natural scientists who were using gender synonymously with sex were not denying the existence of the issues that caused gender and sex to be used differently in the first place. Their usage wasn't indicative of their ideology. Some feminists had begun to merge the concepts of gender and sex as both social constructs but again that is not denying the nuances of a person like Scarlett. The whole idea of aebriol linking this study is absurd anyway because he's just trying to point out why some people might be confused but anyone with an ounce of common sense who has read the exchanges between Lennoxito and truthbombDROPPER and everyone else could see that they're not just confused by the notion that gender and sex are not synonyms. As if the reason why Lennoxito straight up contradicts Gamegene is because a bunch of natural scientists began to prefer to use 'gender' in place of 'sex' just as feminists began to strongly emphasize the difference between the two... Yeah, SOTG thread. Tyler, I have always appreciated your nuanced and moderate views, but gender and sex were synonyms for hundreds of years and never stopped being synonyms in common language. And if the issue is about respect why not respect the views of people who are uncomfortable using gender pronouns they feel are not appropriate? I understand banning people who say things like *fixed* and change a post because clearly they are trolling, but I don't think people should be forced to use certain pronouns. Are you for real? I'm male, if people start referring to me as "Her", eventually I will be offended. If Scarlett wants to be referred to as female, then it's not a choice of taste which pronoun you use, you use the pronoun that is fucking appropriate to her gender. Technically, you are forced to use certain (fitting) pronouns by the rules of social life. And it does not matter one ounce what you want, what you think of the whole matter or if you even accept her choices in life. Of course, you might still make a stand. But don't be surprised if Scarlett doesn't invite you to her MLG Winner celebration party! Go Scarlett! :D Some people may disagree with you about what pronoun is appropriate for someone who is genetically a man. Why is it so important for you to force your views on them? People should just use whatever they think is appropriate and not "correct" those who see it differently. Conflict only arises when one side or the other insists that everyone conform to the same opinion. Wow, Tyler is right... this is trolling in its purest form. You know exactly what I'm talking about, as an intelligent being you must be aware why Scarlett wants to be referred to as a female person, you have no physical or psychological pain by obliging with her wishes, yet you continue to promote offending people like Scarlett by simply ignoring their life choices... Because it is your god given right of arrogance to do just that?  Do you really think if you're standing in front of Scarlett and refer to her as a male that she's going to accept your choice of words, because you feel you have the right to ignore him? Do you actually think that in this matter, your personal belief supercedes that one the person that is the concern of this discussion? Really? Who exactly is imposing what on whom here? You are acting against most social norms in western civilisations and you whine about having my opinion being imposed on you? Is this going to end in one of those pointless freedom of speech discussions? Lmao. Are you aware that Scarlett might read this shit?  My god, that would be funny. :D No question, it is going to end in a "freedom of speech" discussion. Even the WHO acknowledges a difference in sex and gender. He is reserving his "right to insult" and he knows that. Good thing Freedom of Speech does not exist on a privately run forum. and im not sure about germany, but in the US, hate speech is not protected under free speech
Not sure what US you live in, but hate speech is very much protected. Free speech is one of the few areas that the US out shines most the western world in. (poor word usage I know, but please try to understand the context I meant that in.)
I mean we have a Nazi political (3rd) party. And you can talk about how much god hates gay people (they use the F-word) all you like. ...But everyone can chose not to listen.
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Hate speech totally protected. So is the right to ban people from TL for using it.
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On April 08 2012 11:38 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Well SOTG just got there major topic for tomorrow at pax dont think I even need to say what it is
Here is a basic overview about how the discussion will go:
"Its been talked to death. Its all over the forums, read it if you don't know what happened. We all want LAN. There is nothing more to discuss. Moving on..."
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On April 08 2012 14:36 slicknav wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 11:38 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Well SOTG just got there major topic for tomorrow at pax dont think I even need to say what it is Here is a basic overview about how the discussion will go: "Its been talked to death. Its all over the forums, read it if you don't know what happened. We all want LAN. There is nothing more to discuss. Moving on..."
Whenever something happens in the SC2 scene, it can be sure that SOTG will be there to cover it 1-2 weeks later :D
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Hey guys thanks for SotG, I will be up bright and early to watch it in the morning because it really is an amazing! )Tyler, you need to talk more lolol) Anyways people are gonna bitch and moan about whatever you give them but in reality you are giving us a completely free show that is always incredibly enjoyable and essentially anytime a few of the pillars have some free time you attempt to give us this content! Thanks a bunch and just ignore the trolls
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On April 08 2012 13:52 JackDT wrote:
Hate speech totally protected. So is the right to ban people from TL for using it.
TL is not the USA.
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On April 08 2012 15:31 -_-Quails wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:52 JackDT wrote:
Hate speech totally protected. So is the right to ban people from TL for using it. TL is not the USA.
Last time I checked TL HQ was in NYC..pretty sure that's in the US last time I checked too..
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On April 08 2012 01:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 01:14 Lennoxito wrote:On April 08 2012 01:09 Gamegene wrote:On April 08 2012 01:06 Lennoxito wrote:On April 08 2012 00:46 Gamegene wrote:On April 08 2012 00:38 Lennoxito wrote:On April 07 2012 17:45 MarcH wrote:On April 07 2012 17:42 seiferoth10 wrote:
Scarlett beat Terious, Ddoro, and Demuslim.
vileIllusion beat JPeg, Zenio, Kiwikaki, Ryung, and Oz.
Why is Scarlett the story of the day again? Because Scarlettt is an unknown and this is her first big tournament. Illusion however is not an unknown and has been to a lot of big tournaments in the past. While his performance here is perhaps better than he has managed previously its not a massive leap up from the unknown and is a continuation of past results but slightly better. so from now on sotg will invite every guy who is able to beat any korean? people are talking about scarlet, she's interesting. one: she's transgendered and like it or not that makes people raise their eyebrows a bit. two: she has no team three: she's a girl and four: no one cares about illusion one: he's transgendered and like it or not that makes people raise their eyebrows a bit. two: he has no team three: he's a girl and four: no one cares about illusion fixed On April 07 2012 11:44 Gamegene wrote:On April 07 2012 11:02 archides wrote:On April 07 2012 06:35 truthbombDROPPER wrote:
Sorry but scarlett quite clearly used to be or still is male
I'm not sure why everyone is in denial
User was banned for this post. You serious? These mods act so petty. Banning people for something that is clearly true. Scarlett himself said he's born a male. People aren't even throwing insults at him, just asking common questions. 1. Sex =/= Gender 2. Way to be a dick. actually its equal. sex is physical. gender is psychological
Gender i thought was based on NA's binary system male female black white good evil
while sex was the other way around there are a wide variety of sexes.
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On April 08 2012 15:34 Battleaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 15:31 -_-Quails wrote:On April 08 2012 13:52 JackDT wrote:
Hate speech totally protected. So is the right to ban people from TL for using it. TL is not the USA. Last time I checked TL HQ was in NYC..pretty sure that's in the US last time I checked too..
If TL is an "American" based company I guess Stephano and WhiteRa really are American too.
On a more serious note.
Look up comments made on this by Nazgul himself, take the time and research before you speak.
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On April 08 2012 15:31 -_-Quails wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:52 JackDT wrote:
Hate speech totally protected. So is the right to ban people from TL for using it. TL is not the USA.
Its a private company "based in the U.S." so it certainly does have the right to ban any speech on its property that it wishes to.
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Doesn't matter where TL is based? someone bought the domain name, set up a forum 15 years ago, they can shut it all down within minutes if they want to!?! what is the crap about rights... the guy whos name is on the domain and the web host owns it, he does whatever he wants... has nothing to do with country or location.
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So I am beginning to think maybe the panel won't be streamed live.
I mean JP hasn't even tweet anything about it right?
https://twitter.com/#!/itmeJP T-T
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On April 08 2012 20:21 Chriscras wrote:So I am beginning to think maybe the panel won't be streamed live. I mean JP hasn't even tweet anything about it right? https://twitter.com/#!/itmeJP T-T
Im sure it will be, otherwise whats even the point? Its been advertised and talked about for ages, if its just for a a little crowd at pax why even bother.
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On April 08 2012 15:34 Battleaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 15:31 -_-Quails wrote:On April 08 2012 13:52 JackDT wrote:
Hate speech totally protected. So is the right to ban people from TL for using it. TL is not the USA. Last time I checked TL HQ was in NYC..pretty sure that's in the US last time I checked too..
Owned by a couple of Dutchmen.
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On April 08 2012 20:30 RedBack wrote:Im sure it will be, otherwise whats even the point? Its been advertised and talked about for ages, if its just for a a little crowd at pax why even bother.
Recorded and posted later is what I think might be happening :\
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