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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 17:52:36
March 19 2012 17:15 GMT
#42441
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.

Good show so far otherwise.


edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible.
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Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
March 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#42442
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.

Good show so far otherwise.


edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible.


I can't think of a more pointless person to have on SOTG than Stephano. Sure, he was funny for a one off interview, but he said nothing of any interest or solidity about anything.
Even his comments on the game were vague and / or lies. Sure, he doesn't know any timings and just randomly chooses what to do on the fly.
What utter BS.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
March 19 2012 23:11 GMT
#42443
On March 20 2012 08:00 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.

Good show so far otherwise.


edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible.


I can't think of a more pointless person to have on SOTG than Stephano. Sure, he was funny for a one off interview, but he said nothing of any interest or solidity about anything.
Even his comments on the game were vague and / or lies. Sure, he doesn't know any timings and just randomly chooses what to do on the fly.
What utter BS.

He said he doesnt have specific food counts/timer, he never said anything about "randomly choosing" anything...
Hes a fun guy, i enjoy when hes on.
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
March 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#42444
On March 20 2012 08:00 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.

Good show so far otherwise.


edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible.


I can't think of a more pointless person to have on SOTG than Stephano. Sure, he was funny for a one off interview, but he said nothing of any interest or solidity about anything.
Even his comments on the game were vague and / or lies. Sure, he doesn't know any timings and just randomly chooses what to do on the fly.
What utter BS.

more pointless person other than Stephano? Most people are here purely for the entertainment value and seeing their pros and day9 chat about everyday things.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
March 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#42445
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.


That was really painful indeed. I really love the show but lately it's really hard to enjoy it because of the poor sound quality. As you pointed QXC had the crappiest mic i've ever heard. Sometimes JP can't do anything about people getting bad equipment, but there is plenty of room to improve. This show must to step up seriously, and, according to me, most of the problems can be solved easily.

On the video aspect, i don't care the much on the video production since this show is about people talking starcraft, nonetheless watching it is really fun too, but there is some obvious issues :
- The overlay : JP is sticks with that horrible gradient since they left/split up with MLG. He should just organize some kind of contest on TL/twitter/reddit, i pretty sure that a lot of people will enjoy giving him a nice overlay for his show.
- The webcams : I can live without seing someone's face, but i'm sure that a lot of people are annoyed by these webcams freezing randomly all along the show; well here i cant think of a solution because the problem is clearly due to skype and it will probably stay as it is. Maybe another better webcam-client exists, so if anyone knows...

On the audio aspect the show is running with skype. Yes it's easy to use, you dont have to lost yourself in thousands of setups, but i dont think it's the best tool to use for voice communication. First because at some point during the show someone will always lag like hell and talk like a robot during minutes, and secondly because there is no sound detection feature and push-to-talk option. Seriously i can't stand anymore the constant background noise, dogs barking, mics humming, keyboards being slammed, etc... it's really irritating when you had to hear it during two hours.
The best solution is to switch for another client like mumble or teamspeak, it's not that hard to setup, JP just have to quickly brief everyone before the show, it takes like 15min maximum, set a voice detection or a push to talk and it's perfect !

So basically what i suggest is to keep the skype conference for the webcams and mute everyone, and gather everyone on a private TS/mumble channel for the sound, in order to avoid lags and parasite noises during the show. The only thing i'm not so sure about is how is the delay between skype's webcams and the audio, it could be utterly out of synch. Anyway i really thing it worth a try, for a better show experience.
I have to return some videotapes.
BandonBanshee
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada437 Posts
March 20 2012 02:39 GMT
#42446
Anyone know when the vods will be out? missed yesterdays show. Couldn't find anything on Jp's channel.
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
March 20 2012 03:27 GMT
#42447
On March 20 2012 08:12 Ruyguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 08:00 Kharnage wrote:
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.

Good show so far otherwise.


edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible.


I can't think of a more pointless person to have on SOTG than Stephano. Sure, he was funny for a one off interview, but he said nothing of any interest or solidity about anything.
Even his comments on the game were vague and / or lies. Sure, he doesn't know any timings and just randomly chooses what to do on the fly.
What utter BS.

more pointless person other than Stephano? Most people are here purely for the entertainment value and seeing their pros and day9 chat about everyday things.


I listen to the show to hear some more informed insight into some of the decent matches in the recent tournaments I've watched or didn't watch and don't know if it's worthwhile.
I liked listening to QXC talk about the implications of being techlab heavy and the implications of that on a Terrans late game. That's a great little 'nugget' of information.
I could be wrong, be Stephano seems to deliberately NOT give out these little nuggets of understanding. He says something vague and then something off topic and pretends he's answered the question.

You could hear the dumb-founded silence as Day9 and Nony listened to the drivel he came out with when they asked him a specific question. It's BS and they know it.

I find the show entertaining enough without giving up a spot to someone who has no interest in sharing his insight or understanding for the benefit of a few laughs.
Patton3D
Profile Joined March 2011
United States65 Posts
March 20 2012 03:36 GMT
#42448
On March 20 2012 11:39 BandonBanshee wrote:
Anyone know when the vods will be out? missed yesterdays show. Couldn't find anything on Jp's channel.


Check the previous page of posts
You are never defeated until you admit it.
FunnyPicture
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden147 Posts
March 20 2012 08:53 GMT
#42449
On March 19 2012 15:50 gn1k wrote:
VOD of this SOTG

tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
March 20 2012 08:58 GMT
#42450
On March 20 2012 08:58 Ornithorynquez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.


That was really painful indeed. I really love the show but lately it's really hard to enjoy it because of the poor sound quality. As you pointed QXC had the crappiest mic i've ever heard. Sometimes JP can't do anything about people getting bad equipment, but there is plenty of room to improve. This show must to step up seriously, and, according to me, most of the problems can be solved easily.

On the video aspect, i don't care the much on the video production since this show is about people talking starcraft, nonetheless watching it is really fun too, but there is some obvious issues :
- The overlay : JP is sticks with that horrible gradient since they left/split up with MLG. He should just organize some kind of contest on TL/twitter/reddit, i pretty sure that a lot of people will enjoy giving him a nice overlay for his show.
- The webcams : I can live without seing someone's face, but i'm sure that a lot of people are annoyed by these webcams freezing randomly all along the show; well here i cant think of a solution because the problem is clearly due to skype and it will probably stay as it is. Maybe another better webcam-client exists, so if anyone knows...

On the audio aspect the show is running with skype. Yes it's easy to use, you dont have to lost yourself in thousands of setups, but i dont think it's the best tool to use for voice communication. First because at some point during the show someone will always lag like hell and talk like a robot during minutes, and secondly because there is no sound detection feature and push-to-talk option. Seriously i can't stand anymore the constant background noise, dogs barking, mics humming, keyboards being slammed, etc... it's really irritating when you had to hear it during two hours.
The best solution is to switch for another client like mumble or teamspeak, it's not that hard to setup, JP just have to quickly brief everyone before the show, it takes like 15min maximum, set a voice detection or a push to talk and it's perfect !

So basically what i suggest is to keep the skype conference for the webcams and mute everyone, and gather everyone on a private TS/mumble channel for the sound, in order to avoid lags and parasite noises during the show. The only thing i'm not so sure about is how is the delay between skype's webcams and the audio, it could be utterly out of synch. Anyway i really thing it worth a try, for a better show experience.



I pretty much agree on every single point in this post. But I fear they'd feel it would still be "too complicated" to implement.
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." - Iloveoov
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
March 20 2012 09:32 GMT
#42451
the SOTG at lone star clash was pretty good, considering it was so short
i dont quite understand why stephano and bling were brought up to the stage and they just didnt say anything

but whitera is an absolute boss, so glad to see him get quite far in a tournament, shame hes not attending MLG

great job from geoff, good questions and funny as usual :p
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
March 20 2012 10:56 GMT
#42452
On March 20 2012 17:58 tiaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 08:58 Ornithorynquez wrote:
On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.


That was really painful indeed. I really love the show but lately it's really hard to enjoy it because of the poor sound quality. As you pointed QXC had the crappiest mic i've ever heard. Sometimes JP can't do anything about people getting bad equipment, but there is plenty of room to improve. This show must to step up seriously, and, according to me, most of the problems can be solved easily.

On the video aspect, i don't care the much on the video production since this show is about people talking starcraft, nonetheless watching it is really fun too, but there is some obvious issues :
- The overlay : JP is sticks with that horrible gradient since they left/split up with MLG. He should just organize some kind of contest on TL/twitter/reddit, i pretty sure that a lot of people will enjoy giving him a nice overlay for his show.
- The webcams : I can live without seing someone's face, but i'm sure that a lot of people are annoyed by these webcams freezing randomly all along the show; well here i cant think of a solution because the problem is clearly due to skype and it will probably stay as it is. Maybe another better webcam-client exists, so if anyone knows...

On the audio aspect the show is running with skype. Yes it's easy to use, you dont have to lost yourself in thousands of setups, but i dont think it's the best tool to use for voice communication. First because at some point during the show someone will always lag like hell and talk like a robot during minutes, and secondly because there is no sound detection feature and push-to-talk option. Seriously i can't stand anymore the constant background noise, dogs barking, mics humming, keyboards being slammed, etc... it's really irritating when you had to hear it during two hours.
The best solution is to switch for another client like mumble or teamspeak, it's not that hard to setup, JP just have to quickly brief everyone before the show, it takes like 15min maximum, set a voice detection or a push to talk and it's perfect !

So basically what i suggest is to keep the skype conference for the webcams and mute everyone, and gather everyone on a private TS/mumble channel for the sound, in order to avoid lags and parasite noises during the show. The only thing i'm not so sure about is how is the delay between skype's webcams and the audio, it could be utterly out of synch. Anyway i really thing it worth a try, for a better show experience.



I pretty much agree on every single point in this post. But I fear they'd feel it would still be "too complicated" to implement.

Skype makes sense if you are taking call-ins, otherwise I'm not sure why they use it.
neoenigma
Profile Joined October 2010
United States243 Posts
March 20 2012 14:36 GMT
#42453
That thing at Lone Star Clash should not have been called "State of the Game" and I'm surprised JP agreed to it. I got my hopes up. So short. Not everyone spoke. It's fine to do this, by why bother calling it State of the Game unless you're just trying to draw in viewers?

Now that I think of it... I don't think there has ever really been a successful "live" State of the Game.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 20 2012 16:04 GMT
#42454
he didn't "agree to it" it was his idea.

Calm down.. eat some meat loaf and pet your dog.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 20 2012 16:08 GMT
#42455
On March 21 2012 01:04 iNcontroL wrote:
he didn't "agree to it" it was his idea.

Calm down.. eat some meat loaf and pet your dog.


you pay too much attention to the haters iNcontroL - im sure the majority thought it was an excellent show, and a nice added bonus for the TeSPA-guys as well, it added weight to an already awesome tournament by them
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Dreadwolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada220 Posts
March 20 2012 16:24 GMT
#42456
On March 20 2012 23:36 neoenigma wrote:
That thing at Lone Star Clash should not have been called "State of the Game" and I'm surprised JP agreed to it. I got my hopes up. So short. Not everyone spoke. It's fine to do this, by why bother calling it State of the Game unless you're just trying to draw in viewers?

Now that I think of it... I don't think there has ever really been a successful "live" State of the Game.


I loved the live show, of course its going to be different and everyone might not be there, but seriously, did you expect the exact same thing? after a 12h tournament.. with most of the pillar missing?

No successful live StoG whaaaat!? The one at pax was soooo cool and they are going to do it againt this year cant wait for that!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 20 2012 17:02 GMT
#42457
On March 21 2012 01:24 Dreadwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 23:36 neoenigma wrote:
That thing at Lone Star Clash should not have been called "State of the Game" and I'm surprised JP agreed to it. I got my hopes up. So short. Not everyone spoke. It's fine to do this, by why bother calling it State of the Game unless you're just trying to draw in viewers?

Now that I think of it... I don't think there has ever really been a successful "live" State of the Game.


I loved the live show, of course its going to be different and everyone might not be there, but seriously, did you expect the exact same thing? after a 12h tournament.. with most of the pillar missing?

No successful live StoG whaaaat!? The one at pax was soooo cool and they are going to do it againt this year cant wait for that!


Unreasonable expectations is what the TL community is built off of. 12 hour tournament and then a 2 hour live show right after than. What is 14 hours of being in public and around fans, right? Who needs to sleep, food or time alone? They should be able to provide us with a live version of the well loved, free podcast at any time. Attempting anything less is unacceptable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
March 20 2012 17:06 GMT
#42458
You did a good job Incontrol, glad there were 2 SOTGs in one week =D
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
March 21 2012 02:08 GMT
#42459
Of course it was an excellent show, watched it earlier today !
(:
FunnyPicture
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden147 Posts
March 21 2012 09:49 GMT
#42460
So... 3 days later I see nothing in iTunes.
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