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Cyberonic
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany80 Posts
March 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#41861
On March 10 2012 18:22 Champloo wrote:
Wow, with Day9 on the show it will probably be like this:

90 min Redbull LAN thing
25 min orb drama
05 min IEM
00 min Lone Star Clash

Please try to get someone who was at IEM on the show. Grubby, Apollo, hell even Idra if it has to be.


this.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 10 2012 15:14 GMT
#41862
As I understand it, Orb isn't on to talk about the scandal. I'm not sure that we'll talk about the scandal at all. Maybe 5 mins. Maybe I'm wrong though!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#41863
On March 11 2012 00:14 Liquid`NonY wrote:
As I understand it, Orb isn't on to talk about the scandal. I'm not sure that we'll talk about the scandal at all. Maybe 5 mins. Maybe I'm wrong though!


That's good to hear, it sounded from JP's tweets that you guys were gonna spend time on it, and frankly it wouldn't be a good show topic.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:21:00
March 10 2012 15:18 GMT
#41864
A good side-topic would be the massive witch-hunting mentality of the SC2 community compared to any other community out there. Haven't experienced anything like that in all my online gaming community life (not only the Orb thing).

And a game (which is primarily for online purpose) also includes a factor community.
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 10 2012 15:22 GMT
#41865
On March 11 2012 00:18 Eisregen wrote:
A good side-topic would be the massive witch-hunting mentality of the SC2 community compared to any other community out there. Haven't experienced anything like that in all my online gaming community life (not only the Orb thing)


Calling it a "witch-hunt" implies that the people who were upset were unnecessarily offended, which just brings up the conversation they're hopefully planning to avoid (ie whether orb deserved to be dismissed or not). It's not a witch-hunt if there's a legitimate problem.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:33:35
March 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#41866
On March 11 2012 00:22 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 00:18 Eisregen wrote:
A good side-topic would be the massive witch-hunting mentality of the SC2 community compared to any other community out there. Haven't experienced anything like that in all my online gaming community life (not only the Orb thing)


Calling it a "witch-hunt" implies that the people who were upset were unnecessarily offended, which just brings up the conversation they're hopefully planning to avoid (ie whether orb deserved to be dismissed or not). It's not a witch-hunt if there's a legitimate problem.


Oh the word makes 100% sense.
Digging as long until there is sth. to be found and then even requesting the "witch" should prove its innocence? =)
If I recall correctly, the witch hunts in medieval times were pretty much the same. Someone saw you picking up herbals? woohoo, have fun Moral panic and hysteria. olé olé

But that is just my POV on this community and/or parts of it.
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 10 2012 15:29 GMT
#41867
On March 10 2012 22:49 Chriscras wrote:
Poll: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

Doesn't matter either way. (71)
 
57%

Less likely. (32)
 
26%

More likely. (21)
 
17%

124 total votes

Your vote: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

(Vote): More likely.
(Vote): Less likely.
(Vote): Doesn't matter either way.



LOL

Less likely to watch SotG because orb is going to be on it?

Wtf is wrong with people.

If your offended by orb please take 2minutes to watch this video

Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
March 10 2012 15:37 GMT
#41868
On March 11 2012 00:29 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:49 Chriscras wrote:
Poll: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

Doesn't matter either way. (71)
 
57%

Less likely. (32)
 
26%

More likely. (21)
 
17%

124 total votes

Your vote: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

(Vote): More likely.
(Vote): Less likely.
(Vote): Doesn't matter either way.



LOL

Less likely to watch SotG because orb is going to be on it?

Wtf is wrong with people.

If your offended by orb please take 2minutes to watch this video


I'm not offended by orb, but I don't care what he has to say about anything really, I watch SotG to hear Day9, Artosis, Tyler and incontrol's opinons about recent starcraft events and strats. If they are going to waste time on orb making excuses for some dumb shit he did I'm less likely to watch yes, but it's not because I'm offended, it's because I'm not interested.
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 10 2012 15:43 GMT
#41869
good move to bring orb on, look at the tl and reddit threads, lots of interest, smart business move to bring him on
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 10 2012 15:44 GMT
#41870
On March 11 2012 00:28 Eisregen wrote:
Oh the word makes 100% sense.
Digging as long until there is sth. to be found and then even requesting the "witch" should prove its innocence? =)
If I recall correctly, the witch hunts in medieval times were pretty much the same. Someone saw you picking up herbals? woohoo, have fun Moral panic and hysteria. olé olé

But that is just my POV on this community and/or parts of it.


"witch hunt" implies that the person(s) being "hunted" are innocent and the accusations being leveled are baseless or imaginary. People calling out orb for using the n-word is something he absolutely is guilty of, as was what people got all up in arms about the Katu/Dragon incident. You can call it an overreaction or something, but "witch-hunt" is definitely not anywhere close to the right term.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:48:47
March 10 2012 15:48 GMT
#41871
On March 11 2012 00:29 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:49 Chriscras wrote:
Poll: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

Doesn't matter either way. (71)
 
57%

Less likely. (32)
 
26%

More likely. (21)
 
17%

124 total votes

Your vote: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

(Vote): More likely.
(Vote): Less likely.
(Vote): Doesn't matter either way.



LOL

Less likely to watch SotG because orb is going to be on it?

Wtf is wrong with people.

If your offended by orb please take 2minutes to watch this video
[...]

It has nothing to do with being offended, it's just the fact that the more they talk about bullshit, the less they talk about the actual game (which is only about 10 minutes most of the time anyways). There are just people who don't care about how much money MLG makes or which public figure has said what word and so on.
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
March 10 2012 15:51 GMT
#41872
On March 11 2012 00:44 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 00:28 Eisregen wrote:
Oh the word makes 100% sense.
Digging as long until there is sth. to be found and then even requesting the "witch" should prove its innocence? =)
If I recall correctly, the witch hunts in medieval times were pretty much the same. Someone saw you picking up herbals? woohoo, have fun Moral panic and hysteria. olé olé

But that is just my POV on this community and/or parts of it.


"witch hunt" implies that the person(s) being "hunted" are innocent and the accusations being leveled are baseless or imaginary. People calling out orb for using the n-word is something he absolutely is guilty of, as was what people got all up in arms about the Katu/Dragon incident. You can call it an overreaction or something, but "witch-hunt" is definitely not anywhere close to the right term.

Overracting is also a defintion of witch-hunt so it is 100% fine for the whole things happened in this community
Also the "n-word" has such a high double standard? Lovely =)
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 15:55:21
March 10 2012 15:52 GMT
#41873
On March 11 2012 00:48 blackone wrote:

It has nothing to do with being offended, it's just the fact that the more they talk about bullshit, the less they talk about the actual game (which is only about 10 minutes most of the time anyways). There are just people who don't care about how much money MLG makes or which public figure has said what word and so on.


And yeah, this. I was one of the people who was offended by what orb said, but I don't listen to SotG to hear the hosts' opinions on issues like that. They don't have any unique insight on the issue (well, orb does, but we've heard his side already), and by the time the show airs, it'll be old news anyway. I want them to talk about the game, not the community's drama.

Overracting is also a defintion of witch-hunt so it is 100% fine for the whole things happened in this community


"overreaction" is very much not the same as "witch-hunt." You can overreact to something that actually happened, whereas "witch-hunt" means by definition that the thing that people reacting to is not a real thing (like witches). I hate to sound condescending, but this might be a misunderstanding borne out of English being your second language.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
March 10 2012 15:55 GMT
#41874
On March 10 2012 23:07 ThatGuy89 wrote:
its called state of the GAME
not state of the community, or state of this guy that said nigger or anything

it doesnt affect the game, the way the games played or the way people view the game so its a waste of time.

Ill watch the vods and just skip the bits with him. I hope hes not a guest for the whole episode, that'd be awkward as hell, but hopefully they have him on for an hour at most or something


Why don't you just decide to not watch the show if you're not interested? Who the fuck cares if it's called State of the Game, they discuss popular topics in the community and judging by their viewer numbers it's a good thing to do.
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 10 2012 15:55 GMT
#41875
On March 11 2012 00:52 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 00:48 blackone wrote:

It has nothing to do with being offended, it's just the fact that the more they talk about bullshit, the less they talk about the actual game (which is only about 10 minutes most of the time anyways). There are just people who don't care about how much money MLG makes or which public figure has said what word and so on.


And yeah, this. I was one of the people who was offended by what orb said, but I don't listen to SotG to hear the hosts' opinions on issues like that. They don't have any unique insight on the issue (well, orb does, but we've heard his side already), and by the time the show airs, it'll be old news anyway. I want them to talk about the game, not the community's drama.


I agree entirely. I, on the other hand, wasn't offended at all, but regardless it isn't worth spending more than a couple of minutes on. There are far more worthwhile topics of conversation.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 10 2012 16:01 GMT
#41876
On March 11 2012 00:55 sereniity wrote:

Why don't you just decide to not watch the show if you're not interested? Who the fuck cares if it's called State of the Game, they discuss popular topics in the community and judging by their viewer numbers it's a good thing to do.


I'm gonna watch either way, since as Tyler said they probably won't spend much time on it (if at all). Frankly, though, there's more important stuff going on in the community that more people care about than the orb business, which frankly seems to just be a small number of loud people bickering back and forth (myself being one of them). IEM, Lone Star Clash, Red Bull LAN, GSTL, KSL, IPL TAC, EWM, EG MCSL, Iron Squid, etc... there's lots of things that they can talk about. Hell, I'm pretty sure most people would rather just hear a general metagame discussion than hear them talk about orb drama.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 10 2012 16:06 GMT
#41877
On March 11 2012 01:01 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 00:55 sereniity wrote:

Why don't you just decide to not watch the show if you're not interested? Who the fuck cares if it's called State of the Game, they discuss popular topics in the community and judging by their viewer numbers it's a good thing to do.


Hell, I'm pretty sure most people would rather just hear a general metagame discussion than hear them talk about orb drama.



are you basing that assumption on the fact that there is a 140 page thread and multiple reddit threads on the matter?
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
March 10 2012 16:09 GMT
#41878
On March 11 2012 00:29 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:49 Chriscras wrote:
Poll: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

Doesn't matter either way. (71)
 
57%

Less likely. (32)
 
26%

More likely. (21)
 
17%

124 total votes

Your vote: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

(Vote): More likely.
(Vote): Less likely.
(Vote): Doesn't matter either way.



LOL

Less likely to watch SotG because orb is going to be on it?

Wtf is wrong with people.

If your offended by orb please take 2minutes to watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gG2_JyYnMo

''Oh people have a different opinion then me so there must be something wrong with them''
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 16:13:17
March 10 2012 16:12 GMT
#41879
On March 11 2012 00:29 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:49 Chriscras wrote:
Poll: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

Doesn't matter either way. (71)
 
57%

Less likely. (32)
 
26%

More likely. (21)
 
17%

124 total votes

Your vote: Does Orb make you more likely o r less likely to watch on Wednesday?

(Vote): More likely.
(Vote): Less likely.
(Vote): Doesn't matter either way.



LOL

Less likely to watch SotG because orb is going to be on it?

Wtf is wrong with people.

If your offended by orb please take 2minutes to watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gG2_JyYnMo



Its not only a matter of being offended. For one orb isn't an offensive person outside of ladder games where he rages. The reason I think a lot of people would not like him to be on because its been discussed to death. He apologized, what else is there for him to say? I just don't see it being an interesting conversation. I just hope that if he is on he is only on for the beginning of the show in an interview rather than him being a host for the week.

* I`ll be watching no matter what. I just dont know what else there is to say on the whole orb situation.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 16:17:04
March 10 2012 16:14 GMT
#41880
On March 11 2012 01:06 mememolly wrote:

are you basing that assumption on the fact that there is a 140 page thread and multiple reddit threads on the matter?


I'm basing it on the constant pleas for more strategy discussion in this thread that span over a year and the numerous posts in this thread asking them not to talk about the orb drama with very few people asking them to.

edit: also multiple shitshow bickering threads is not justification for why a topic should make the show; there's no real discussion to be had because I would be shocked if any of the hosts were willing to actually support orb for fear of backlash from their sponsors/bosses/fans. Way too touchy of a subject for anyone except someone like Destiny to actually speak their mind.
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