• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:13
CEST 05:13
KST 12:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes170BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1655 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1968

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 2731 Next
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 06 2012 06:07 GMT
#39341
On January 06 2012 15:00 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 14:59 jmbthirteen wrote:
I really dont see the problem. Its not like they are just asking for money. Perks will be given to those who subscribe. Its like paying for anything. Its not like they are the lawyer begging because when the lawyer is begging he isnt giving anything back. That clearly isnt the case here.


What else could they really provide that would justify a paid subscription?

Well we will just have to wait and find out. What i justify is worth paying fir isnt the same as everyone else. Im sure ifthey decide to offer a subscription, it will be worth it to a good amount of people or else they wouldnt offer it.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
January 06 2012 06:14 GMT
#39342
On January 06 2012 15:00 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 14:59 jmbthirteen wrote:
I really dont see the problem. Its not like they are just asking for money. Perks will be given to those who subscribe. Its like paying for anything. Its not like they are the lawyer begging because when the lawyer is begging he isnt giving anything back. That clearly isnt the case here.


What else could they really provide that would justify a paid subscription?

Wait and see ffs instead of whining and calling them selfish when they aren't in the least. If you don't want extra content then don't pay for it. Since you obviously don't then stop clogging the forums with your rants about how terrible they are and your horrible examples of unsimilar situations.
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
January 06 2012 06:56 GMT
#39343
On January 06 2012 14:18 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 14:10 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 06 2012 13:57 magnaflow wrote:
What exactly would the benefits be of buying a membership? It's a show with four people talking, what other content could you really provide that would warrant a fee?

Is it just me or are people involved in the SC2 scene starting to get a little greedy. Donations? What would this money be going towards? Their pockets? You guys have a job, you are paid a salary.

How much different is this then a high paid lawyer going and standing on a street corner begging for money even though he doesn't need it, he just wants more

Because these guys arent paid like a high paid lawyer.


Obviously not, but they aren't homeless either. They made the decision to sign the contract. Can you not see that people could be taken advantage of just to line their pockets?

Geoff said himselft they aren't starving. Pretty sure he isn't paying the mortgage in the house he lives in. They're basically saying "hey you don't have to give us money, but we won't say no if you do" That is greed.

Ah well, I could see where there going with this. Lets make as much as we can now before it's too late. And I don't mean when the e-sports bubble burts, I mean when they are replaced by higher calliber players 2 years down the road and the contract extension is no longer being offered.


Also that is not greed. Greed would be making us pay for it. And I didn't realize you were an esports fortune teller so glad I now know that all these people will be irrelevant in the scene.
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 07:21:38
January 06 2012 07:20 GMT
#39344
As long as non-subscribers get the same content what does it matter? I mean personally I would never be inclined to "help out" someone who makes $100/hr chatting up fans on skype, but if people want to then I don't see how you can argue against having the option to give that monetary support.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 06 2012 07:32 GMT
#39345
Maybe if you buy a subscription Artosis will think twice before banning you from the chat lol. Of course they will try and provide extra content to those that pay, but I can't see what that might be. I hope they don't mess around with the stream quality so that only the subscribers have access to HD. That would suck indeed.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
January 06 2012 07:46 GMT
#39346
yeah Tyler is so sweet you gotta see him in HD! :D

yeah well I'd be really pissed if they decide to turn down the audio quality, but that is also not really good most times...
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
January 06 2012 07:51 GMT
#39347
JP said in the poll that nothing changes, its just gonna be added content/something.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#39348
I would subscribe for an independent show, but not for an MLG show.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
January 06 2012 12:04 GMT
#39349
subscription may be good IF and only IF the revenue goes to make the show better, or to the hosts' (note the S') pockets, not only JP.
I will subscribe if the content is compelling but most likely i would not due to me not being able to watch live most of the time
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 12:07:02
January 06 2012 12:05 GMT
#39350
Some stuff that I can talk about:

1) Still no date for S3 yet. Sooner then later -- no one wants to get started more than I do

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^

3) There were some conversations that were poorly followed up on by myself and tweeting-while-under-the-influence on New Years Eve -- no one should be leaving the show (sorry tt)

4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 06 2012 12:08 GMT
#39351
On January 06 2012 21:05 itmeJP wrote:
Some stuff that I can talk about:

1) Still no date for S3 yet. Sooner then later -- no one wants to get started more than I do

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^

3) There were some conversations that were poorly followed up on by myself and tweeting-while-under-the-influence on New Years Eve -- no one should be leaving the show (sorry tt)

4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations

4) Sundance will announce new MLG season?
SaSe fan club manager
ravenxii
Profile Joined November 2011
United States3 Posts
January 06 2012 12:12 GMT
#39352
Can't wait for the new season!
- EG Fanboi -
Eazyz
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand84 Posts
January 06 2012 12:13 GMT
#39353
On January 06 2012 21:05 itmeJP wrote:4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations


As a community, we can only assume Mia Rose has moved to NYC and will become a new pillar of the show.
hard bro
Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
January 06 2012 12:16 GMT
#39354

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^


yay!

Other positive side effect could be that Day[9] doesn't have to leave mid show?


Only thing I know is that I know nothing.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
January 06 2012 12:18 GMT
#39355
On January 06 2012 21:05 itmeJP wrote:
Some stuff that I can talk about:

1) Still no date for S3 yet. Sooner then later -- no one wants to get started more than I do

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^

3) There were some conversations that were poorly followed up on by myself and tweeting-while-under-the-influence on New Years Eve -- no one should be leaving the show (sorry tt)

4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations


Few, I was very concerned Artosis was gonna leave the show.
"En taro adun, Executor."
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 12:39:04
January 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#39356
On January 06 2012 21:18 Chriscras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 21:05 itmeJP wrote:
Some stuff that I can talk about:

1) Still no date for S3 yet. Sooner then later -- no one wants to get started more than I do

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^

3) There were some conversations that were poorly followed up on by myself and tweeting-while-under-the-influence on New Years Eve -- no one should be leaving the show (sorry tt)

4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations


Few, I was very concerned Artosis was gonna leave the show.


Well with the new timeslot he may be forced to :/

I'll still be happy to watch the show live or the day after rather than 2 days after like its been for most of 2011.

With a timeslot suited for eu audience we can easily break 40k live viewers if not more.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
January 06 2012 12:29 GMT
#39357
On January 06 2012 21:16 Lizarb wrote:
Show nested quote +

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^


yay!

Other positive side effect could be that Day[9] doesn't have to leave mid show?




I thought the reason that they started the show so late was because it started after the day9 daily
Evil Geniuses<3
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
January 06 2012 12:34 GMT
#39358
On January 06 2012 21:25 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 21:18 Chriscras wrote:
On January 06 2012 21:05 itmeJP wrote:
Some stuff that I can talk about:

1) Still no date for S3 yet. Sooner then later -- no one wants to get started more than I do

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^

3) There were some conversations that were poorly followed up on by myself and tweeting-while-under-the-influence on New Years Eve -- no one should be leaving the show (sorry tt)

4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations


Few, I was very concerned Artosis was gonna leave the show.


Well with the new timeslot he may be forced to :/

I'll still be happy to watch the show live or the day after rather than 2 days after like its been for most of 2011.


Tbh I much rather have Day9 for the entire show rather than Artosis. Day9 always seem to listen to the arguments and be part of the ongoing discussion. While Artosis on the other hand seem to have a laundry list of things he thinks are more important than listening or engaging in discussion during SOTG. It's not for nothing that 'Artosis not listening' was part of the drunken state of the game rules. Most stuff seem to breeze by him unless he is directly asked.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
January 06 2012 12:37 GMT
#39359
On January 06 2012 21:05 itmeJP wrote:
Some stuff that I can talk about:

1) Still no date for S3 yet. Sooner then later -- no one wants to get started more than I do

2) We will be moving the time / day of the to an earlier timeslot (to help gain a European audience and I hate being up at 3am editing / uploading). I'm making sure this does not coincide with any other shows and works with everyone schedule, AKA its fucking near impossible ^^

3) There were some conversations that were poorly followed up on by myself and tweeting-while-under-the-influence on New Years Eve -- no one should be leaving the show (sorry tt)

4) The first show of the year most likely will include a visit from the NYC office. What for? Use your imaginations


You gotta have Sundance, Adam, or Lee on the first episode of 2012 To talk about the new MLG season of course.
Larsin
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands162 Posts
January 06 2012 12:39 GMT
#39360
please get tyler drunk every episode, at least then he has something to say :D.
Prev 1 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft398
RuFF_SC2 169
Nathanias 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3792
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever530
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 518
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox623
Westballz30
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor106
Other Games
summit1g9467
NeuroSwarm178
XaKoH 146
ViBE83
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick550
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH206
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• practicex 0
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 55
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra917
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4h 47m
RSL Revival
6h 47m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
7h 47m
Online Event
12h 47m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 6h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 7h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.