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Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
December 15 2011 03:34 GMT
#39001
On December 15 2011 12:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:07 WardenSC wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:04 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:53 Greenworld wrote:
Well the most intresting fact about this is ... ok Naniwa did a stupid thing but hey didn't Idra decided not to play a game versus someone at the last MLG ? Now Idra takes his place ...

Those were useless matches to determine ranksing, all it could was determine who had slightly more money... NaNi's was... oh wait


Idra's placement matches were not televised. Thus no one really cared whether he won/lost. Naniwa's match was. Do you guys need baby-spoonfeeding? Apply yourself, figure it out.



So the same standard should not be held for all players, only players being broadcast? Or was that not part of the argument you were making? Should there be a special set of rules for broadcast matches and other rules for games not played live. What about games that are going to be show from replays? Also, I would prefer if you did not attempt to feed me any food, spoon or otherwise.



THis is the massive issue I have wiht this entire situation. Instead of just letting this kind of bullshit match be allowed, people are now forced to draw arbitrary lines on whats acceptable or not, not just on one topic, but like 6 or 7. The entire situation gets bogged down wtih creating arbitrary bullshit rules on how much effort you have to give, or how you have to present certain things, or how much you have to fake it. THe simplist solution is to not force regulate something that doesn't require regulation.

i.e. if conceeding matches or other things are allowed, then you wouldn't need to decide whether its only for broadcasted people or not, rules would be applicable to everyone reguardless of what their opinion on it was.
Theberlinwall
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada57 Posts
December 15 2011 03:47 GMT
#39002
actually the best episode of sotg ive seeN!
"The current situation is looking pretty grim" //////// "Randy, I am the liquor"
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
December 15 2011 03:49 GMT
#39003
On December 15 2011 12:47 Theberlinwall wrote:
actually the best episode of sotg ive seeN!


I agree, they should do these way more often. Also I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've ever encouraged alcoholism as a performance enhancer for a job.
Pratoss
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada201 Posts
December 15 2011 03:49 GMT
#39004
wasn't able to catch the show last night and kind of don't want to go through this thread but did the viewers go over 40k? :o
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
December 15 2011 03:50 GMT
#39005
You guys are terrible drunks, you just continued to act the same as you always do. You should be ashamed of yourselves for your (lack of) bad behavior .
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
December 15 2011 03:53 GMT
#39006
On December 15 2011 12:49 Pratoss wrote:
wasn't able to catch the show last night and kind of don't want to go through this thread but did the viewers go over 40k? :o


Nope, think it peaked around 28k.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
December 15 2011 03:54 GMT
#39007
On December 15 2011 12:50 Amlitzer wrote:
You guys are terrible drunks, you just continued to act the same as you always do. You should be ashamed of yourselves for your (lack of) bad behavior .


IDK Geoff doesn't usually describe gay sex with Day9 when he is sober.

Don't forget Geoff, Tyler and JP started "pre-gaming" like an hour and a half before the show started. LoL
"En taro adun, Executor."
SovereignTea
Profile Joined September 2011
United States3 Posts
December 15 2011 04:11 GMT
#39008
So I know you guys were drunk and all but I didn't feel the spectator view of the Naniwa probe rush was shown. Yes, as a spectator I want to be entertained, but I come to SC2 to experience genuine struggle and competition at the highest level in video games. I don't want to feel like I'm being serviced, I could watch WWE for that. If something doesn't count, screw it. Don't try and fool me by "showing the best games" Fuck that, if I want to see worthless hilariously entertaining games I will watch Funday Monday(and do).

Maybe I've been naive and the faux trying games happen more often than I realize and that might be my fault for not being one of the top SC2 players, but if I start thinking games aren't real, or rigged or whatever I'm not gonna watch, even if I really love the personalities in the scene.

What Naniwa did for me as a spectator was show respect. Sorry the sponsors didn't get their ad space, but without me to watch their ad space is worthless.

I'm troubled that I've not heard this point of view, but I haven't read every word either.

TLDR: Some people don't like being snow jobbed.
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
December 15 2011 04:18 GMT
#39009
This episode was crazzzzy... But the end was kind of boring and way to awkward... everything has to come to an end i guess. STILL BEST EPISODE EVER lots of great moments in one of the best shows on the internet.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
December 15 2011 04:19 GMT
#39010
On December 15 2011 11:07 WardenSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:04 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:53 Greenworld wrote:
Well the most intresting fact about this is ... ok Naniwa did a stupid thing but hey didn't Idra decided not to play a game versus someone at the last MLG ? Now Idra takes his place ...

Those were useless matches to determine ranksing, all it could was determine who had slightly more money... NaNi's was... oh wait


Idra's placement matches were not televised. Thus no one really cared whether he won/lost. Naniwa's match was. Do you guys need baby-spoonfeeding? Apply yourself, figure it out.

Actually, Idra didn't skip the match intentionally - he was watching Huk's game and didn't hear the annoucement.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 04:35:44
December 15 2011 04:33 GMT
#39011
On December 15 2011 13:11 SovereignTea wrote:
So I know you guys were drunk and all but I didn't feel the spectator view of the Naniwa probe rush was shown. Yes, as a spectator I want to be entertained, but I come to SC2 to experience genuine struggle and competition at the highest level in video games. I don't want to feel like I'm being serviced, I could watch WWE for that. If something doesn't count, screw it. Don't try and fool me by "showing the best games" Fuck that, if I want to see worthless hilariously entertaining games I will watch Funday Monday(and do).

Maybe I've been naive and the faux trying games happen more often than I realize and that might be my fault for not being one of the top SC2 players, but if I start thinking games aren't real, or rigged or whatever I'm not gonna watch, even if I really love the personalities in the scene.

What Naniwa did for me as a spectator was show respect. Sorry the sponsors didn't get their ad space, but without me to watch their ad space is worthless.

I'm troubled that I've not heard this point of view, but I haven't read every word either.

TLDR: Some people don't like being snow jobbed.


You're not the only one who thinks this. Definitely seen others compare the "entertainment" aspect to fake wrestling.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
December 15 2011 04:34 GMT
#39012
On December 15 2011 13:19 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:07 WardenSC wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:04 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:53 Greenworld wrote:
Well the most intresting fact about this is ... ok Naniwa did a stupid thing but hey didn't Idra decided not to play a game versus someone at the last MLG ? Now Idra takes his place ...

Those were useless matches to determine ranksing, all it could was determine who had slightly more money... NaNi's was... oh wait


Idra's placement matches were not televised. Thus no one really cared whether he won/lost. Naniwa's match was. Do you guys need baby-spoonfeeding? Apply yourself, figure it out.

Actually, Idra didn't skip the match intentionally - he was watching Huk's game and didn't hear the annoucement.


Or, unlike Naniwa, he doesn't mind giving a more "professional" version.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
December 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#39013
I love u guys!!! Every Tuesday u make me happy!!
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
XLTomato
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia8 Posts
December 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#39014
Sound the alarm, you're gonna feel UNCOMFORTABLY GHETTO FABULOUS
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 05:21:05
December 15 2011 05:18 GMT
#39015
On December 15 2011 11:07 WardenSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 11:04 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:53 Greenworld wrote:
Well the most intresting fact about this is ... ok Naniwa did a stupid thing but hey didn't Idra decided not to play a game versus someone at the last MLG ? Now Idra takes his place ...

Those were useless matches to determine ranksing, all it could was determine who had slightly more money... NaNi's was... oh wait


Idra's placement matches were not televised. Thus no one really cared whether he won/lost. Naniwa's match was. Do you guys need baby-spoonfeeding? Apply yourself, figure it out.

So what? does it mean you can throw non televised games? NaNi's game was meaningless and should not have been played.

On December 15 2011 13:59 XLTomato wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqGf21lZEw

The problem was that the questiom is Day9 JP and tyler... Not artosis... but they were drunk so no problem :D i <3 this show :D
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 05:20:36
December 15 2011 05:20 GMT
#39016
oops... double post...
Khz
Profile Joined March 2011
126 Posts
December 15 2011 05:24 GMT
#39017
Thanks for another great year of State of the Game Tyler, Artosis, Day9, Incontrol and especially JP. Happy holidays for all of you!
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
December 15 2011 05:29 GMT
#39018
On December 15 2011 13:59 XLTomato wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqGf21lZEw


That was so fucking hilarious! Even the second time around I laughed hysterically... Geoff's was funny as he usually always is, but what I found to be really funny also was when she had to pick who to kill.

Caller: "Well... Since Artosis isn't here..."
Geoff: "Exactly."

That was so perfect it made me cry of laughter! Lol.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
December 15 2011 06:26 GMT
#39019
Thank you for entertaining me every Tuesday night much appreciated
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Hibzy
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom445 Posts
December 15 2011 06:43 GMT
#39020
Just finished watching the 4 hour VOD, by far the most i have laughed in the entire of 2011, fucking brilliant guys!
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