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On September 28 2011 07:21 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 06:24 Teoita wrote:On September 28 2011 06:23 Zzoram wrote:On September 28 2011 06:09 Teoita wrote:On September 28 2011 06:04 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On September 28 2011 05:35 Zzoram wrote:
Tyler's NASL ragequit What is that? I've said gg at the end of every NASL game in season two. You must be thinking of season one. There has been speculation about you not playing your second game against TT1 this week; xeris posted this: On September 26 2011 14:40 Xeris wrote:
Tyler ragequit and we couldn't get him back for a 2nd game despite many efforts to reach him, so we obliged his request to not continue playing
He then rephrased the statement (not sure where the post is, i haven't followed the whole thing that much), but that's what he's referring to most likely. Ya that's what I meant. Xeris called it a ragequit when no Game 2 was played. I didn't mean that Tyler didn't gg. Given that there's no official statement from anyone, i think you can't really assume anything. Xeris speaks. We must listen. Xeris spake it, thus it must be true, else he'd not speak it. Seriously. It's not like Xeris is some revered religious figure whose every word becomes immutable universal law which mere mortals must accept at face value on faith alone.
I'm going to just come out and say it; I don't trust Xeris to explain or judge anything objectively or accurately at all, based on his NASL posts.
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On September 28 2011 07:35 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 07:21 caradoc wrote:On September 28 2011 06:24 Teoita wrote:On September 28 2011 06:23 Zzoram wrote:On September 28 2011 06:09 Teoita wrote:On September 28 2011 06:04 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On September 28 2011 05:35 Zzoram wrote:
Tyler's NASL ragequit What is that? I've said gg at the end of every NASL game in season two. You must be thinking of season one. There has been speculation about you not playing your second game against TT1 this week; xeris posted this: On September 26 2011 14:40 Xeris wrote:
Tyler ragequit and we couldn't get him back for a 2nd game despite many efforts to reach him, so we obliged his request to not continue playing
He then rephrased the statement (not sure where the post is, i haven't followed the whole thing that much), but that's what he's referring to most likely. Ya that's what I meant. Xeris called it a ragequit when no Game 2 was played. I didn't mean that Tyler didn't gg. Given that there's no official statement from anyone, i think you can't really assume anything. Xeris speaks. We must listen. Xeris spake it, thus it must be true, else he'd not speak it. Seriously. It's not like Xeris is some revered religious figure whose every word becomes immutable universal law which mere mortals must accept at face value on faith alone. I'm going to just come out and say it; I don't trust Xeris to explain or judge anything objectively or accurately at all, based on his NASL posts.
Agreed, his posts lost all credibility with me awhile back. Seems like a nice guy and I appreciate what he adds to the community (with nasl) but his posts...are another thing altogether.
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Not sure if that's what Tyler means to say - but I'd say MLG commentary has been slightly overdone lately. Like, don't make it boring (for yourselves) guys, talk about whatever you feel like talking, like in "the good old days of SotG".(lol) That helps MLG more in the long run. 
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is it known yet why there was no game two in Tyler vs TT1?
I wonder and nowhere found anything about it...
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Too much tournament talk overall in my opinion. It's ok to talk about tournaments briefly but spending every week about an hour or more to recap/predict the major tournaments of the week gets kinda old, at least I feel this way.
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On September 28 2011 08:20 unsaintly wrote:
Too much tournament talk overall in my opinion. It's ok to talk about tournaments briefly but spending every week about an hour or more to recap/predict the major tournaments of the week gets kinda old, at least I feel this way.
Depends on what they talk about.
1) Groups / Predictions / Prestige of the Tournaments / Players
2) Or the actual games, strategies, builds, discoveries etc.
If they do more of the 2. , i would love it personally
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As I said about a month ago. This show, now hosted on MLG servers (?) sort of. Now deployed on MLG.tv is now State of the MLG. Please try to be unbiased and overhype MLG for 30 minutes and spend 15 minutes for DH/GSL combined.
I liked SOTG for the no-fluff approach to the scene and the game, but now it just feels like you're all on your toes around everything concerning tournaments and their pros/cons. Don't spend forever discussing MLG Live or such..
Also I have a question, How much are you each paid for SOTG?
And quesiton 2, How come after your heartfelt farewell,
you just came back and seem to be a regular again inctrl (this might have been discussed and i missed that ep, idk)
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Likely won't get asked, but something I've been wondering for a while now.
At what point would a progamer consider changing races to further their career?
We've seen Morrow admit his ZvZ is shit and offrace Terran for what would otherwise be ZvZ matchups, but for the most part few other progamers have seemed to even consider switching races, even though they might think the other race is stronger in the long run.
I don't have time to fully flesh out this question (it'd likely get ignored anyways) but I think certain players would better be able to compete a few months down the road if they changed races. I don't know nearly enough about InControL's play to say for sure, but doesn't he play a very harass-based, threatening, poking style that would be better executed as Terran (not to mention he'd have both Puma and DeMuslim to learn from :O)...
Gah. I wish I had more time to explain what I'm talking about and try remove the easy answers of "It takes too long to learn nuances of other race" and "Should match playstyle to race, not race to playstyle"!
It just seems like every Progamer arbitrarily picked a race out of a hat long before they knew what they know now about how the races work and what they're suited for. I want to know if that completely unfounded decision is something anyone actually seriously considers changing, or if it is something more players are willing to use as a crutch...
...sort of.
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On September 28 2011 08:20 unsaintly wrote:
Too much tournament talk overall in my opinion. It's ok to talk about tournaments briefly but spending every week about an hour or more to recap/predict the major tournaments of the week gets kinda old, at least I feel this way.
Tournament recaps are probably the best part of SoTG for me, especially when the hosts have attended them in person. There's so many stories to be told and a lot of room for game analysis.
On the other hand, group predictions are probably the most boring segment of any episode.
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On September 28 2011 08:22 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 08:20 unsaintly wrote:
Too much tournament talk overall in my opinion. It's ok to talk about tournaments briefly but spending every week about an hour or more to recap/predict the major tournaments of the week gets kinda old, at least I feel this way. Depends on what they talk about. 1) Groups / Predictions / Prestige of the Tournaments / Players 2) Or the actual games, strategies, builds, discoveries etc. If they do more of the 2. , i would love it personally
Yup, I really enjoy listening to the german Seznecast with darkforce, socke, hasuobs and delphi because of that, although they overdo it from time to time 
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On September 28 2011 08:22 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 08:20 unsaintly wrote:
Too much tournament talk overall in my opinion. It's ok to talk about tournaments briefly but spending every week about an hour or more to recap/predict the major tournaments of the week gets kinda old, at least I feel this way. Depends on what they talk about. 1) Groups / Predictions / Prestige of the Tournaments / Players 2) Or the actual games, strategies, builds, discoveries etc. If they do more of the 2. , i would love it personally
I think about the first, because it's just JP asking everyone about group x and then they predict the shit and repeat.
The second is great and more interesting than all the predictions and normal recaps without in-depth analysis.
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On September 28 2011 08:31 Staboteur wrote:
Likely won't get asked, but something I've been wondering for a while now.
At what point would a progamer consider changing races to further their career?
We've seen Morrow admit his ZvZ is shit and offrace Terran for what would otherwise be ZvZ matchups, but for the most part few other progamers have seemed to even consider switching races, even though they might think the other race is stronger in the long run.
I don't have time to fully flesh out this question (it'd likely get ignored anyways) but I think certain players would better be able to compete a few months down the road if they changed races. I don't know nearly enough about InControL's play to say for sure, but doesn't he play a very harass-based, threatening, poking style that would be better executed as Terran (not to mention he'd have both Puma and DeMuslim to learn from :O)...
Gah. I wish I had more time to explain what I'm talking about and try remove the easy answers of "It takes too long to learn nuances of other race" and "Should match playstyle to race, not race to playstyle"!
It just seems like every Progamer arbitrarily picked a race out of a hat long before they knew what they know now about how the races work and what they're suited for. I want to know if that completely unfounded decision is something anyone actually seriously considers changing, or if it is something more players are willing to use as a crutch...
...sort of.
Agreed, i think it's a good question
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I also wish that they'd tone down the tournament predictions, it seems like they encompass a large percentage of the show. I like analysis, banter, questions, anything but guessing which guys will win what. That's not enjoyable or fun to me.
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TBH I'd prefer it if they talk about whatever the hell they want. They can get pissed drunk and dance around naked, for all I care. I'd still watch it.
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i'd like to hear about how much Tyler is going to kick ass at MLG Orlando
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On September 28 2011 07:40 Synwave wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 07:35 Defacer wrote:On September 28 2011 07:21 caradoc wrote:On September 28 2011 06:24 Teoita wrote:On September 28 2011 06:23 Zzoram wrote:On September 28 2011 06:09 Teoita wrote:On September 28 2011 06:04 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On September 28 2011 05:35 Zzoram wrote:
Tyler's NASL ragequit What is that? I've said gg at the end of every NASL game in season two. You must be thinking of season one. There has been speculation about you not playing your second game against TT1 this week; xeris posted this: On September 26 2011 14:40 Xeris wrote:
Tyler ragequit and we couldn't get him back for a 2nd game despite many efforts to reach him, so we obliged his request to not continue playing
He then rephrased the statement (not sure where the post is, i haven't followed the whole thing that much), but that's what he's referring to most likely. Ya that's what I meant. Xeris called it a ragequit when no Game 2 was played. I didn't mean that Tyler didn't gg. Given that there's no official statement from anyone, i think you can't really assume anything. Xeris speaks. We must listen. Xeris spake it, thus it must be true, else he'd not speak it. Seriously. It's not like Xeris is some revered religious figure whose every word becomes immutable universal law which mere mortals must accept at face value on faith alone. I'm going to just come out and say it; I don't trust Xeris to explain or judge anything objectively or accurately at all, based on his NASL posts. Agreed, his posts lost all credibility with me awhile back. Seems like a nice guy and I appreciate what he adds to the community (with nasl) but his posts...are another thing altogether.
Been saying this for a long time now. Take everything he says with the finest grain of salt.
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Tonight's SotG will have MP3 up pretty quickly afterwards, but trying something new for the portion. Expect VOD tomorrow morning at latest.
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just wanna say you guys rule and i look forward to your show every week
i would agree with some of the comments that improvements should be looked at to make the show more raw (like it used to be?) and less politically correct prancing around sensitive issues
that being said, balance is important and the professionalism aspect should not be ignored so it's a tough puzzle to solve but do your best im rooting for you ;D
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i would also like to know because i missed it, did incontrol explain himself upon return? is he still tamed cuz it seems like hes back to his original edgy banter self
edit: also plz talk about tyler's alleged ditching of game 2 against TT1 and his going 0-2 in nasl (didnt watch the games, dunno how close they were)... tyler whats up man? too much chilling?
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Why did Tyler(Nony) not play game 2-3 against TT1? What happened? Can this be talked about on the Show?
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So happy that Hero and Tyler are in groups now.
Can you guys discuss this a little on the show?
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