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On September 21 2011 18:26 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:25 Defacer wrote:On September 21 2011 18:22 dementrio wrote: i might be wrong but I think stand up comedy is an almost exclusively american thing, with some spinoffs elsewhere. The only stand up to be found in my country are some subtitled reruns of some fox channel show that air late night on cable tv Really, are you serious? Then again, I can't think of a European stand-up comic out side of Britain ... Well, they probably perform in their native languages so we wouldn't really know them, if they do exist. But Britain has a ton so...
I mean, comedy is comedy, right?
If there's hip hop in every part of the world, than there has to be a Romanian guy doing stand-up in a dive bar somewhere ...
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Just going to state it right now. How the fuck can anyone from europe listen to that episode and think they are speaking from the heart? Like, really. Have you not heard them talking about Reagan? ;P
And to be frank they catch alot of shit for saying anything at all about european players or denizens.
And to the point of europeans not making fun of americans... I dont know how shit goes down in austria but in sweden that does happen. But as with incontrol and the rest of the sotg guys it is not meant to cause harm or be disrespectful.
It is just a fun thing. Get over it ffs.
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On September 21 2011 18:19 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:12 BjC wrote:On September 21 2011 17:32 iNcontroL wrote: doko I am trying to understand your post but unfortunately I don't read Egyptian. Please type in a non EU language based text so I can respond! In a none EU language? wut? Sorry but dont Americans speak an EU language.... English? Ive been disapointed with iNcontroL with his anti-european jokes and perspective also. Seems crazy to disrespect a full continent of potental fans. The more he does it the more Europeans will take offence. Its not funny Geoff and i'd say a guy that wants to continue to be a sponsored and proffessional sportsman should take more care to not purposfully alienate a full continent from his cause, it doesnt make yourself or your sponsors look good in any way. Also as a guy that states he doesnt like some of the shit he gets on the internet and lets some of that get to him, why insist on publically doing the same thing to all europeans. Thats crazy man, just asking for more hate at the next excuse for internet trolls. I'll still be watching out for how well iNcontroL does at the next MLG and hoping he can post some good results but i would be a bigger fan if he stopped being a total idiot sometimes. I can't even... are you real life? Seriously guys? We openly joke about poking fun at EU people and then watching the threads for the outrage and ... you guys buy it. How? How is this possible? We are counter-trolling because we know more about the EU scene than any one person that has bitched about our "lack of EU coverage." We do it in the MOST OBVIOUS WAY WE KNOW HOW.. and this still goes under the radar for some of you? WOWOWOOW One of my open dreams is to go to europe. I talk all the time about how amazing it's players are (without sarcasm). And I bleed envy when we discuss HSC, DH etc etc.. how is it some of you get so off track by a few blatant jokes? As a test I will do this: EU players are garbage and I hate everyone south of Iceland which means almost all of Poland and Turkey Ok wish me luck! I think people complain because there were too many eu trolling jokes without, you know, any reason. When someone's there from Europe and you guys troll each other that's fine, or when Europeans destroy an event with lots of americans in it, it's also ok to make sarcastic jokes or like a recent statement from X player celebrity how EU>>> US. Or really if there's anything you can put your finger on, that's because they are making those jokes, not because they are being douchebags.
Btw i'm not offended at all, and i know they are only jokes, and would love some Eu vs US trolling session with a standup Eropean guy on Sotg, but i get why some people get offended or think it's uncalled for.
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On September 21 2011 18:22 dementrio wrote: i might be wrong but I think stand up comedy is an almost exclusively american thing, with some spinoffs elsewhere. The only stand up to be found in my country are some subtitled reruns of some fox channel show that air late night on cable tv It's an American artform, but standup scenes exist elsewhere. I'm not sure where you're from, but I know Germany has a fairly mature standup scene. Japanese culture has manzai, which is very similar to an old fashioned American double act.
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On September 21 2011 17:52 doko100 wrote: Well it unfortunately seems like this community is more focused on spreading hate and racism than supporting eachother, it's really sad, but what can you do. There is a good reason there are so many people voting for the right wing parties in europe still, it's because racism is still accepted by the majority of the white people.
You need to grow up man. No one on the show is racist. Each and everyone of them is friends with people all over the world. If you had any idea of the amount of friends these guys have in europe than you wouldnt be spewing ignorance and whining about something that isnt there. If you dont like it you always have the choice of not downloading the podcast and listening.
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On September 21 2011 18:30 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:19 iNcontroL wrote:On September 21 2011 18:12 BjC wrote:On September 21 2011 17:32 iNcontroL wrote: doko I am trying to understand your post but unfortunately I don't read Egyptian. Please type in a non EU language based text so I can respond! In a none EU language? wut? Sorry but dont Americans speak an EU language.... English? Ive been disapointed with iNcontroL with his anti-european jokes and perspective also. Seems crazy to disrespect a full continent of potental fans. The more he does it the more Europeans will take offence. Its not funny Geoff and i'd say a guy that wants to continue to be a sponsored and proffessional sportsman should take more care to not purposfully alienate a full continent from his cause, it doesnt make yourself or your sponsors look good in any way. Also as a guy that states he doesnt like some of the shit he gets on the internet and lets some of that get to him, why insist on publically doing the same thing to all europeans. Thats crazy man, just asking for more hate at the next excuse for internet trolls. I'll still be watching out for how well iNcontroL does at the next MLG and hoping he can post some good results but i would be a bigger fan if he stopped being a total idiot sometimes. I can't even... are you real life? Seriously guys? We openly joke about poking fun at EU people and then watching the threads for the outrage and ... you guys buy it. How? How is this possible? We are counter-trolling because we know more about the EU scene than any one person that has bitched about our "lack of EU coverage." We do it in the MOST OBVIOUS WAY WE KNOW HOW.. and this still goes under the radar for some of you? WOWOWOOW One of my open dreams is to go to europe. I talk all the time about how amazing it's players are (without sarcasm). And I bleed envy when we discuss HSC, DH etc etc.. how is it some of you get so off track by a few blatant jokes? As a test I will do this: EU players are garbage and I hate everyone south of Iceland which means almost all of Poland and Turkey Ok wish me luck! I think people complain because there were too many eu trolling jokes without, you know, any reason. When someone's there from Europe and you guys troll each other that's fine, or when Europeans destroy an event with lots of americans in it, it's also ok to make sarcastic jokes or like a recent statement from X player celebrity how EU>>> US. Or really if there's anything you can put your finger on, that's because they are making those jokes, not because they are being douchebags. Btw i'm not offended at all, and i know they are only jokes, and would love some Eu vs US trolling session with a standup Eropean guy on Sotg, but i get why some people get offended or think it's uncalled for.
Yeah, but trolling for no real reason is silly and nonsensical. Trolling 'with intent' is petty and malicious.
I mean, I always feel bad when a guy like Destiny or IdrA gets trollled ... because you know there is actually a segment of the population that genuinely hate their guts.
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The EU vs NA jokes/insults whatever are probably the best thing about SC2 (aside from SC2).
People should just grow some skin and turn their hilarity/irony/sarcasm/tongue in cheek/whatever detectors on and stop acting like children (well, many probably are...).
Btw: Even if you don't think it's funny you should be able to "detect" that something was ment to be funny...
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On September 21 2011 18:19 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:12 BjC wrote:On September 21 2011 17:32 iNcontroL wrote: doko I am trying to understand your post but unfortunately I don't read Egyptian. Please type in a non EU language based text so I can respond! In a none EU language? wut? Sorry but dont Americans speak an EU language.... English? Ive been disapointed with iNcontroL with his anti-european jokes and perspective also. Seems crazy to disrespect a full continent of potental fans. The more he does it the more Europeans will take offence. Its not funny Geoff and i'd say a guy that wants to continue to be a sponsored and proffessional sportsman should take more care to not purposfully alienate a full continent from his cause, it doesnt make yourself or your sponsors look good in any way. Also as a guy that states he doesnt like some of the shit he gets on the internet and lets some of that get to him, why insist on publically doing the same thing to all europeans. Thats crazy man, just asking for more hate at the next excuse for internet trolls. I'll still be watching out for how well iNcontroL does at the next MLG and hoping he can post some good results but i would be a bigger fan if he stopped being a total idiot sometimes. I can't even... are you real life? Seriously guys? We openly joke about poking fun at EU people and then watching the threads for the outrage and ... you guys buy it. How? How is this possible? We are counter-trolling because we know more about the EU scene than any one person that has bitched about our "lack of EU coverage." We do it in the MOST OBVIOUS WAY WE KNOW HOW.. and this still goes under the radar for some of you? WOWOWOOW One of my open dreams is to go to europe. I talk all the time about how amazing it's players are (without sarcasm). And I bleed envy when we discuss HSC, DH etc etc.. how is it some of you get so off track by a few blatant jokes? As a test I will do this: EU players are garbage and I hate everyone south of Iceland which means almost all of Poland and Turkey Ok wish me luck!
Then come to europe, you'll be surprised how many fans you got here.
Let me just say this, I know it's not easy for you to "not offend" people because you are a very active person in the starcraft 2 community, but just bear in mind that some of us take offense if you make fun of them (even if it's not personally).
See, I wouldn't have said anything if you just bring this joke up like 3 or 4 times, but it really didn't stop, yes it was funny the first time you said it, but then it got annoying and after a while I actually felt really offended because the fact that you didn't stop really made it seem like you had a problem with europeans. And again, I don't know you, most of us don't, so whenever you say something people will be over-critical and sometimes they will misunderstand you.
But then again, I don't understand why you couldn't just respond to my first post in a nicer way, see I'm a fan of yours and I was confused and offended (because you didn't stop with the "jokes"), if you just say "look I was really just kidding, love you all", then it's all good, we love you too.
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On September 21 2011 18:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:22 dementrio wrote: i might be wrong but I think stand up comedy is an almost exclusively american thing, with some spinoffs elsewhere. The only stand up to be found in my country are some subtitled reruns of some fox channel show that air late night on cable tv It's an American artform, but standup scenes exist elsewhere. I'm not sure where you're from, but I know Germany has a fairly mature standup scene. Japanese culture has manzai, which is very similar to an old fashioned American double act.
I'm from Italy. We do have similar forms of entertainment, but nowhere it is accepted to use rude language or be offensive in any way. It mostly boils down to making fun of politicians and celebrities.
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The EU jokes are fine, but when you make the same joke for the 15th time in the same cast it kinda gets old. I think Incontrol just overdid it a bit and thats why people are reacting to it so strong.
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On September 21 2011 18:36 dementrio wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On September 21 2011 18:22 dementrio wrote: i might be wrong but I think stand up comedy is an almost exclusively american thing, with some spinoffs elsewhere. The only stand up to be found in my country are some subtitled reruns of some fox channel show that air late night on cable tv It's an American artform, but standup scenes exist elsewhere. I'm not sure where you're from, but I know Germany has a fairly mature standup scene. Japanese culture has manzai, which is very similar to an old fashioned American double act. I'm from Italy. We do have similar forms of entertainment, but nowhere it is accepted to use rude language or be offensive in any way. It mostly boils down to making fun of politicians and celebrities.
That's kinda funny as brits swear and tell the most foul jokes on air but italy doesn't. Yet i've seen several clips on youtube from italian TV shows guys pull down actresses dresses or shows filled with scantly clad girls just for fun.
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Why are europeans always complaining. So annoying, if you dont like it, dont watch/listen. Chill.
Except for french ppl, you can hate on them all you want.
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On September 21 2011 18:36 dementrio wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On September 21 2011 18:22 dementrio wrote: i might be wrong but I think stand up comedy is an almost exclusively american thing, with some spinoffs elsewhere. The only stand up to be found in my country are some subtitled reruns of some fox channel show that air late night on cable tv It's an American artform, but standup scenes exist elsewhere. I'm not sure where you're from, but I know Germany has a fairly mature standup scene. Japanese culture has manzai, which is very similar to an old fashioned American double act. I'm from Italy. We do have similar forms of entertainment, but nowhere it is accepted to use rude language or be offensive in any way. It mostly boils down to making fun of politicians and celebrities.
That's not offensive blatantly making fun of fellow human beings, celebrities or otherwise??
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On September 21 2011 18:39 Bagi wrote: The EU jokes are fine, but when you make the same joke for the 15th time in the same cast it kinda gets old. I think Incontrol just overdid it a bit and thats why people are reacting to it so strong.
I know! It sucks hearing the same shit over and over again.. doesn't it? hmmm
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On September 21 2011 18:26 Falcor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:25 Defacer wrote:On September 21 2011 18:22 dementrio wrote: i might be wrong but I think stand up comedy is an almost exclusively american thing, with some spinoffs elsewhere. The only stand up to be found in my country are some subtitled reruns of some fox channel show that air late night on cable tv Really, are you serious? Then again, I can't think of a European stand-up comic out side of Britain ... theres some good irish comics.
Dylan Moran, son. Love that shit.
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On September 21 2011 18:19 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:12 BjC wrote:On September 21 2011 17:32 iNcontroL wrote: doko I am trying to understand your post but unfortunately I don't read Egyptian. Please type in a non EU language based text so I can respond! In a none EU language? wut? Sorry but dont Americans speak an EU language.... English? Ive been disapointed with iNcontroL with his anti-european jokes and perspective also. Seems crazy to disrespect a full continent of potental fans. The more he does it the more Europeans will take offence. Its not funny Geoff and i'd say a guy that wants to continue to be a sponsored and proffessional sportsman should take more care to not purposfully alienate a full continent from his cause, it doesnt make yourself or your sponsors look good in any way. Also as a guy that states he doesnt like some of the shit he gets on the internet and lets some of that get to him, why insist on publically doing the same thing to all europeans. Thats crazy man, just asking for more hate at the next excuse for internet trolls. I'll still be watching out for how well iNcontroL does at the next MLG and hoping he can post some good results but i would be a bigger fan if he stopped being a total idiot sometimes. I can't even... are you real life? Seriously guys? We openly joke about poking fun at EU people and then watching the threads for the outrage and ... you guys buy it. How? How is this possible? We are counter-trolling because we know more about the EU scene than any one person that has bitched about our "lack of EU coverage." We do it in the MOST OBVIOUS WAY WE KNOW HOW.. and this still goes under the radar for some of you? WOWOWOOW One of my open dreams is to go to europe. I talk all the time about how amazing it's players are (without sarcasm). And I bleed envy when we discuss HSC, DH etc etc.. how is it some of you get so off track by a few blatant jokes? As a test I will do this: EU players are garbage and I hate everyone south of Iceland which means almost all of Poland and Turkey Ok wish me luck!
People on the internet insult and joke every time you fail then watch the thread grow and fuel it, hoping for it to bother you and it does.... you buy it.How? How is that possible? A personal attack against you is not nice, likewise constantly goading a response by insulting a continent of starcraft fans is not a nice thing to do. You state you dont like it, then you do it yourself. Im just thinking that the european joke has worn abit thin now and if you do want to come to some of the really good european events do you expect to be cheered and supported by the european people while you are here?
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dude you didn't understand my joke about egyptian text being a european language.. the dude was typing in english and egypt is not in europe...
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WTFFFFFFFFFFF
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On September 21 2011 18:19 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 18:12 BjC wrote:On September 21 2011 17:32 iNcontroL wrote: doko I am trying to understand your post but unfortunately I don't read Egyptian. Please type in a non EU language based text so I can respond! In a none EU language? wut? Sorry but dont Americans speak an EU language.... English? Ive been disapointed with iNcontroL with his anti-european jokes and perspective also. Seems crazy to disrespect a full continent of potental fans. The more he does it the more Europeans will take offence. Its not funny Geoff and i'd say a guy that wants to continue to be a sponsored and proffessional sportsman should take more care to not purposfully alienate a full continent from his cause, it doesnt make yourself or your sponsors look good in any way. Also as a guy that states he doesnt like some of the shit he gets on the internet and lets some of that get to him, why insist on publically doing the same thing to all europeans. Thats crazy man, just asking for more hate at the next excuse for internet trolls. I'll still be watching out for how well iNcontroL does at the next MLG and hoping he can post some good results but i would be a bigger fan if he stopped being a total idiot sometimes. I can't even... are you real life? Seriously guys? We openly joke about poking fun at EU people and then watching the threads for the outrage and ... you guys buy it. How? How is this possible? We are counter-trolling because we know more about the EU scene than any one person that has bitched about our "lack of EU coverage." We do it in the MOST OBVIOUS WAY WE KNOW HOW.. and this still goes under the radar for some of you? WOWOWOOW One of my open dreams is to go to europe. I talk all the time about how amazing it's players are (without sarcasm). And I bleed envy when we discuss HSC, DH etc etc.. how is it some of you get so off track by a few blatant jokes? As a test I will do this: EU players are garbage and I hate everyone south of Iceland which means almost all of Poland and Turkey Ok wish me luck!
I've always dreamed to live in the middle of Atlantic Ocean  Did i pass the test? and good luck!
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Is there a vod up anywhere? cant seem to find it, thanks.
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On September 21 2011 18:50 iNcontroL wrote: dude you didn't understand my joke about egyptian text being a european language.. the dude was typing in english and egypt is not in europe...
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WTFFFFFFFFFFF
Are you sure it isn't?
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