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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 19 2011 02:38 GMT
#29581
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

Nada also lost to Elfi though T_T, Assembly definitely wasn't Nada's tournament. I'm sure it was a good wake-up call and that he'll train very hard for MLG .
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
August 19 2011 02:38 GMT
#29582
On August 19 2011 11:14 Inky87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:06 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra got 3-2 by mana in IPL =P Sometimes Idra is a real jackass. He calls mana terrible, but do you think for a second if Incontrol wasn't on his team he wouldn't say the same about him?


What's the point of your comment?

What's the point of YOUR comment? The guys talk alot of smack about people that are actually good, it's a bit annoying.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 19 2011 03:14 GMT
#29583
As far as what tournaments get covered, you also have to realize what is interesting to talk about. Talking about results are so definitive and uninteresting. You can talk about an interesting strategy or great game, but after that what is they're to say? You say it was a good tournament, any surprises, etc... and move on. However, opening up to a tournament means predictions, surprises, etc, which can take a lot longer and also be more interesting.

You also have to realize the sheer # of tournaments that go on nowadays. Many of the players are busy practicing, qualifying, or playing in these or other tournaments. They don't spend the tens of hours watching every tournament daily to see who places or watch all the matchups. I'm sure most watch some, but asking about games none of them watch would be as uninteresting as the GSL questions when they don't watch.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 03:16:19
August 19 2011 03:15 GMT
#29584
On August 19 2011 11:14 Inky87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:06 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra got 3-2 by mana in IPL =P Sometimes Idra is a real jackass. He calls mana terrible, but do you think for a second if Incontrol wasn't on his team he wouldn't say the same about him?


What's the point of your comment?

That he and all of EG are hypocritical. They won't ever call people bad who are on their team but if those players were not on it they would. Cmon, calling Mana bad but he has never said a bad word about incontrol? If anything, Incontrol plays a far more abusive style and is much less successful. It is total bullshit that they give mana no credit.
Zedex
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 10:16:38
August 19 2011 03:15 GMT
#29585
After recently watching the latest SoTG I have one question,
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
August 19 2011 03:17 GMT
#29586
It is total bullshit that they give mana no credit.


Well it's not like they actually know ANYTHING about the European scene.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 19 2011 03:18 GMT
#29587
On August 19 2011 03:47 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:06 turdburgler wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:42 Numy wrote:
I was kinda sad they just dismissed Artosis when he was trying to talk about the EU Bnet invitational. Those were some seriously awesome games and sick play from Ret. Also assembly was kinda just brushed aside. Seems SotG is slowly leaving Euro scene out of the loop. Hopefully everyone was just too busy to watch(Aside from Artosis) and this isn't a future trend.

Also focus seems to be shifted quite a lot on MLG, even the logo in the vid was very MLGesq. I still enjoyed the show just wondering what's going to be the focus in the future.



its disapointing and annoying but what are you gonna do. none of them follow the european scene much and so there wasnt a whole lot they could say.

the fact that 3 pro players dont follow the european scene is probably a huge factor into why none of them are playing up to their own standards but there you go :p we cant make them watch EU games if they dont want to.

the only part that annoyed me was when they kinda BM'd nerchio for his poor lan performance, when all of them will tell you 1 series of starcraft doesnt mean anything. just means nerchio needs to stomp idra out of another league x)

Yup, Nerchio did well in + Show Spoiler +
IEM, 2-0 Huk in group stages.

Seems like Europe finally has some good zergs with Stephano and Nerchio stepping it up.
Maybe Morrow will finally ZvZ if he gets some good practice partners.


Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
August 19 2011 03:28 GMT
#29588
On August 19 2011 12:14 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
As far as what tournaments get covered, you also have to realize what is interesting to talk about. Talking about results are so definitive and uninteresting. You can talk about an interesting strategy or great game, but after that what is they're to say? You say it was a good tournament, any surprises, etc... and move on. However, opening up to a tournament means predictions, surprises, etc, which can take a lot longer and also be more interesting.

You also have to realize the sheer # of tournaments that go on nowadays. Many of the players are busy practicing, qualifying, or playing in these or other tournaments. They don't spend the tens of hours watching every tournament daily to see who places or watch all the matchups. I'm sure most watch some, but asking about games none of them watch would be as uninteresting as the GSL questions when they don't watch.


Yea, I'd like to see the tournament coverage more relaxed, kindergarden-style "talk about a match you enjoyed this week"

About IPL in particular, besides the prize pool it plenty of anti-hype elements: super delayed casting, less than hottest players (♥ them but it's not up to NASL or MLG), follow-up event is in a casino with 21+ only attendance, sounds like IGN is going with "let's see what we can get away with" and I'm more amused that they weren't throughly bashed.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
August 19 2011 03:30 GMT
#29589
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 03:47 Condor Hero wrote:
On August 18 2011 23:06 turdburgler wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:42 Numy wrote:
I was kinda sad they just dismissed Artosis when he was trying to talk about the EU Bnet invitational. Those were some seriously awesome games and sick play from Ret. Also assembly was kinda just brushed aside. Seems SotG is slowly leaving Euro scene out of the loop. Hopefully everyone was just too busy to watch(Aside from Artosis) and this isn't a future trend.

Also focus seems to be shifted quite a lot on MLG, even the logo in the vid was very MLGesq. I still enjoyed the show just wondering what's going to be the focus in the future.



its disapointing and annoying but what are you gonna do. none of them follow the european scene much and so there wasnt a whole lot they could say.

the fact that 3 pro players dont follow the european scene is probably a huge factor into why none of them are playing up to their own standards but there you go :p we cant make them watch EU games if they dont want to.

the only part that annoyed me was when they kinda BM'd nerchio for his poor lan performance, when all of them will tell you 1 series of starcraft doesnt mean anything. just means nerchio needs to stomp idra out of another league x)

Yup, Nerchio did well in + Show Spoiler +
IEM, 2-0 Huk in group stages.

Seems like Europe finally has some good zergs with Stephano and Nerchio stepping it up.
Maybe Morrow will finally ZvZ if he gets some good practice partners.


Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.


A scrub maphacker yep.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 19 2011 03:34 GMT
#29590
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana


Mana has the best PvT in EU.
Snitches get stiches
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
August 19 2011 03:34 GMT
#29591
On August 19 2011 12:15 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:14 Inky87 wrote:
On August 19 2011 11:06 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra got 3-2 by mana in IPL =P Sometimes Idra is a real jackass. He calls mana terrible, but do you think for a second if Incontrol wasn't on his team he wouldn't say the same about him?


What's the point of your comment?

That he and all of EG are hypocritical. They won't ever call people bad who are on their team but if those players were not on it they would. Cmon, calling Mana bad but he has never said a bad word about incontrol? If anything, Incontrol plays a far more abusive style and is much less successful. It is total bullshit that they give mana no credit.


So you want Idra to call Incontrol bad? No offense, but these guys can say whatever they feel like. They're pro-players and have much more insight into the game than we do. It's not like Incontrol thinks he's the greatest player either. He repeatedly said things like "I have no room to talk" so... pretty sure all the EG hate is irrational crap. If these guys didn't just speak their mind, this State of the Game would've been pretty boring instead of the best one ever. Plus, everytime Idra calls someone bad, they pull amazing results out of their ass. He said Nestea was terrible and he's one of the best in the world. I just think your initial comment is inflammatory and not well thought out. Might as well replace it with "I hate EG."
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia981 Posts
August 19 2011 03:34 GMT
#29592
On August 19 2011 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.

A scrub maphacker yep.

Lol wut...
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
August 19 2011 03:40 GMT
#29593
On August 19 2011 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On August 19 2011 03:47 Condor Hero wrote:
On August 18 2011 23:06 turdburgler wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:42 Numy wrote:
I was kinda sad they just dismissed Artosis when he was trying to talk about the EU Bnet invitational. Those were some seriously awesome games and sick play from Ret. Also assembly was kinda just brushed aside. Seems SotG is slowly leaving Euro scene out of the loop. Hopefully everyone was just too busy to watch(Aside from Artosis) and this isn't a future trend.

Also focus seems to be shifted quite a lot on MLG, even the logo in the vid was very MLGesq. I still enjoyed the show just wondering what's going to be the focus in the future.



its disapointing and annoying but what are you gonna do. none of them follow the european scene much and so there wasnt a whole lot they could say.

the fact that 3 pro players dont follow the european scene is probably a huge factor into why none of them are playing up to their own standards but there you go :p we cant make them watch EU games if they dont want to.

the only part that annoyed me was when they kinda BM'd nerchio for his poor lan performance, when all of them will tell you 1 series of starcraft doesnt mean anything. just means nerchio needs to stomp idra out of another league x)

Yup, Nerchio did well in + Show Spoiler +
IEM, 2-0 Huk in group stages.

Seems like Europe finally has some good zergs with Stephano and Nerchio stepping it up.
Maybe Morrow will finally ZvZ if he gets some good practice partners.


Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.


A scrub maphacker yep.


he is far from being a scrub and never map hacked u are an idiot
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 03:50:35
August 19 2011 03:44 GMT
#29594
On August 19 2011 12:34 Soulforged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.

A scrub maphacker yep.

Lol wut...

EDIT:
Dimaga was caught hacking in the qual of TSL2 IIRC
He was caught ladder abusing.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
August 19 2011 03:46 GMT
#29595
On August 19 2011 12:44 N1k0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:34 Soulforged wrote:
On August 19 2011 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.

A scrub maphacker yep.

Lol wut...

Dimaga was caught hacking in the qual of TSL2 IIRC


It was ladder abuse (getting free points in some way), not maphacking.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
August 19 2011 03:47 GMT
#29596
On August 19 2011 12:44 N1k0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:34 Soulforged wrote:
On August 19 2011 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.

A scrub maphacker yep.

Lol wut...

Dimaga was caught hacking in the qual of TSL2 IIRC


Wasn't it because he was making alt accounts and getting free points for TSL2 because everybody was dodging him and the top players?
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 19 2011 03:52 GMT
#29597
On August 19 2011 12:18 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 03:47 Condor Hero wrote:
On August 18 2011 23:06 turdburgler wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:42 Numy wrote:
I was kinda sad they just dismissed Artosis when he was trying to talk about the EU Bnet invitational. Those were some seriously awesome games and sick play from Ret. Also assembly was kinda just brushed aside. Seems SotG is slowly leaving Euro scene out of the loop. Hopefully everyone was just too busy to watch(Aside from Artosis) and this isn't a future trend.

Also focus seems to be shifted quite a lot on MLG, even the logo in the vid was very MLGesq. I still enjoyed the show just wondering what's going to be the focus in the future.



its disapointing and annoying but what are you gonna do. none of them follow the european scene much and so there wasnt a whole lot they could say.

the fact that 3 pro players dont follow the european scene is probably a huge factor into why none of them are playing up to their own standards but there you go :p we cant make them watch EU games if they dont want to.

the only part that annoyed me was when they kinda BM'd nerchio for his poor lan performance, when all of them will tell you 1 series of starcraft doesnt mean anything. just means nerchio needs to stomp idra out of another league x)

Yup, Nerchio did well in + Show Spoiler +
IEM, 2-0 Huk in group stages.

Seems like Europe finally has some good zergs with Stephano and Nerchio stepping it up.
Maybe Morrow will finally ZvZ if he gets some good practice partners.


Yeah, finally they have Zergs. Dimaga has been such a scrub his whole career.

I didn't mean it like that.
They've shit on Morrow's ZvZ like 10 times now on the show and the reason always is that there aren't that many good Zergs on Europe.
Glad to see some rising stars is all I meant.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
August 19 2011 03:59 GMT
#29598
On August 19 2011 12:15 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:14 Inky87 wrote:
On August 19 2011 11:06 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra got 3-2 by mana in IPL =P Sometimes Idra is a real jackass. He calls mana terrible, but do you think for a second if Incontrol wasn't on his team he wouldn't say the same about him?


What's the point of your comment?

That he and all of EG are hypocritical. They won't ever call people bad who are on their team but if those players were not on it they would. Cmon, calling Mana bad but he has never said a bad word about incontrol? If anything, Incontrol plays a far more abusive style and is much less successful. It is total bullshit that they give mana no credit.


Honestly considering Idra called Naniwa an average protoss at best I think we can safely say he is biased when it comes to recgonizing the skill of anyone who dosen't play zerg.
Fugue
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia253 Posts
August 19 2011 04:01 GMT
#29599
On August 19 2011 12:15 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:14 Inky87 wrote:
On August 19 2011 11:06 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra got 3-2 by mana in IPL =P Sometimes Idra is a real jackass. He calls mana terrible, but do you think for a second if Incontrol wasn't on his team he wouldn't say the same about him?


What's the point of your comment?

That he and all of EG are hypocritical. They won't ever call people bad who are on their team but if those players were not on it they would. Cmon, calling Mana bad but he has never said a bad word about incontrol? If anything, Incontrol plays a far more abusive style and is much less successful. It is total bullshit that they give mana no credit.


It's not like anyone hides the fact that you give more respect to your teammates. They even joked about Idra giving away the Huk transfer by shaking hands with him - purely because that would never happen if they weren't teammates.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 19 2011 04:14 GMT
#29600
On August 19 2011 12:59 Astro-Penguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:15 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 11:14 Inky87 wrote:
On August 19 2011 11:06 Duravi wrote:
On August 19 2011 10:37 mprs wrote:
Nada not doing well, he got 2-0'd by Mana who is terrible!!!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Puma got 2-0'd by Mana

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra got 3-2 by mana in IPL =P Sometimes Idra is a real jackass. He calls mana terrible, but do you think for a second if Incontrol wasn't on his team he wouldn't say the same about him?


What's the point of your comment?

That he and all of EG are hypocritical. They won't ever call people bad who are on their team but if those players were not on it they would. Cmon, calling Mana bad but he has never said a bad word about incontrol? If anything, Incontrol plays a far more abusive style and is much less successful. It is total bullshit that they give mana no credit.


Honestly considering Idra called Naniwa an average protoss at best I think we can safely say he is biased when it comes to recgonizing the skill of anyone who dosen't play zerg.

Well he's always been cocky.
Idra probably thinks he's #2 in the world behind Nestea, and that's only begrudgingly acknowledging how good Nestea is.
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