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On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote: Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races. I'm not that sure. Imo Demuslim ( war 3 ) is just not as good with Z ( the only race with true bw style macro ) than Dimaga is with Terran. It could be a matter of play style.
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The thing is that Zerg and Protoss just arent finished yet. More polishing was put to Terran, thats why they seem so good. Z and P can be just as good but Blizzard needs to polish them a bit more. I mean Zerg doesnt even have a Tier 3 unit that can shoot air. And Protoss...one word, Mothership And these are only a couple of things that need to be looked at
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Despite you being the player I love to hate, I have to say your insight into the game and its balance is great, Idra. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue.
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Dimaga is steam-rolling a Terran right now.
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On August 16 2010 06:27 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote: Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races. I'm not that sure. Imo Demuslim ( war 3 ) is just not as good with Z ( the only race with true bw style macro ) than Dimaga is with Terran. It could be a matter of play style. If you look at their game history, Demuslim (Z) beat Dimaga (T) 7-4 yesterday night.
So who cares.
+ Show Spoiler [Gosucup] +Dimaga just beat SjoW 2-0 or something in gosucup quarters. Oh noes teh imba.
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On August 16 2010 06:32 Kindred wrote: The thing is that Zerg and Protoss just arent finished yet. More polishing was put to Terran, thats why they seem so good. Z and P can be just as good but Blizzard needs to polish them a bit more.
I tend to agree with this. (I play Zerg.) Terran just seem to have such well rounded capabilities that give them a plethora of choices and options throughout the stages of the game.
It may be that some of the T stats should be nerfed, but the main problem for Zerg now is that we just seem so limited in options at so many times, and after neural parazite was nerfed i think that last trumph we had is gone.
Also: Much of the problems with balance atm just comes from the maps.
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On August 16 2010 06:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 06:27 Boblion wrote:On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote: Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races. I'm not that sure. Imo Demuslim ( war 3 ) is just not as good with Z ( the only race with true bw style macro ) than Dimaga is with Terran. It could be a matter of play style. If you look at their game history, Demuslim (Z) beat Dimaga (T) 7-4 yesterday night. So who cares. + Show Spoiler [Gosucup] +Dimaga just beat SjoW 2-0 or something in gosucup quarters. Oh noes teh imba.
Didn't see the first game but Sjow just played horribly in the second. I think by the time his 5th helion had died (and the first 3 of those were due to him not paying attention) he'd killed 0 drones and maybe 5 lings. After that he built 2 armories and then bio pushed against mass bling and got destroyed.
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On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote: Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races.
Any results from a race switch match means nothing.
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good for dimaga. Progamers are subject to the whims of, in this case, Blizzard, and have to maximize their wins.
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I feel that not only does Zerg have to be aware of the standard Terran pushes be it mech or bio. Zerg is just so vulnerable to cheesy strategies. Early harass into banshees is just so strong in general. It's ridiculous just how early you can get banshees while putting all that pressure on zerg at the same time. Meanwhile, Zerg has very weak early harass against Terran so Terran can pretty much dictate the pace of the game and be super cost efficient.
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I hope that something is announced so that Demuslim will continue to play as Zerg. It kills me to see players switch races due to imbalances, whether or not they are true. Hopefully something is addressed.
I think IdrA has a really good feeling on why you should stick with your race, a buff or nerf will happen eventually.. don't lose your roots.
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Dimaga just lost a game vs HuK where he was up 4base to 2base, a ZvP. He threw away ultras and hydras against a immo/stalker/ht army over and over.
Next game he goes hydras/ling vs collosi..
But I guess he knows what hes doing in ZvT, right?
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He lost both games by not going into the right transition. =\
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On August 16 2010 07:40 n0xi3 wrote: I hope that something is announced so that Demuslim will continue to play as Zerg. It kills me to see players switch races due to imbalances, whether or not they are true. Hopefully something is addressed.
I think IdrA has a really good feeling on why you should stick with your race, a buff or nerf will happen eventually.. don't lose your roots.
Do you mean Dimaga mate?
Demuslim was just playing Z earlier today for a laugh.
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It's not like he's a top-tier pro. If he needs to switch to FOTM race, it just proves what we all already know... that he's just a B-teamer.
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Where can I find the games of DIMAGA vs Sjow?
Would like to watch them
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not making a balance statement, but i love some of these replies. First people yell if you think one race is too strong, switch to it. Now when a famous player is about to switch his race, people say switching races doesn't mean anything... wtf
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On August 16 2010 06:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 06:27 Boblion wrote:On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote: Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races. I'm not that sure. Imo Demuslim ( war 3 ) is just not as good with Z ( the only race with true bw style macro ) than Dimaga is with Terran. It could be a matter of play style. If you look at their game history, Demuslim (Z) beat Dimaga (T) 7-4 yesterday night. So who cares. + Show Spoiler [Gosucup] +Dimaga just beat SjoW 2-0 or something in gosucup quarters. Oh noes teh imba. people take what you write seriously. dont do that.
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Posting after IdrA.
User was warned for this post
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if Jinro is talking about ladder or CG games, Idra is right, that is not something you can look at. Players experiment/try new things or can conceal their strategies when games do not matter
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