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CitizenTrust
Profile Joined August 2010
United States16 Posts
August 15 2010 19:25 GMT
#761
I get the point he is making, and i agree with him. It takes high profile players doing this for Blizz to take the balance seriously. I'm just a casual, so I'm sticking with zerg (~500point diamond) bc i hope that if it balances out (even if its just proper maps) then i will be better for having fought uphill the whole time.
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Acidlineup
Profile Joined April 2010
123 Posts
August 15 2010 19:27 GMT
#762
On August 16 2010 03:31 Voyager I wrote:
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50 dmg to marauders


Sounds like a storm.

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80 dmg to ur tanks


Sounds like a storm.

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150 dmg to ur thors, 200 dmg to bcruisers INSTANTLY (no dodging)


You already have a spell for that.

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so on and so on... well after that sure u can keep ur marines with their 30 hp left. Im in! lets do it!


Still sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Oh wait, I forgot to mention that this ability should never be able to take my units below half health and all of the damage should come back by itself after a little while.


Look, I'm not saying that T is weak, but just because one race has problems doesn't mean you get to hurl yourself on the bandwagon and try to stake an arbitrary claim on the moral high ground.


Storm is not instant.

Again, storm is NOT instant.

Feedback is not AOE spell.

It doesent need to take ur units below half health. Zlots with charge will kill marines in 1-2 hits and stalkers will kill marauders with 1-2 hits. Oh and wait, u cant have ur spell before u build a starport while i can have mine allredy for free at twilight council (nerfed to cost only 50 gas ofc).

Look, you are just bein ignorant and quoting only stuff that suits you, because u want to keep ur race advantage. Thats fine, but sadly it wont convince anyone.
system failure...
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 15 2010 19:28 GMT
#763
thread is derailed i guess <:

ontopic:

doubt its a good idea to change race, first its not assured that u play as good as with your other race and second the game is young, patches will come.
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
August 15 2010 19:31 GMT
#764
Man this must suck for Dimaga, having to change races like that. =\
Though he is doing it to make a statement to blizzard. I hope they realize this and fix any imbalances ASAP. =\
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 15 2010 19:35 GMT
#765
On August 16 2010 04:28 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
thread is derailed i guess <:

ontopic:

doubt its a good idea to change race, first its not assured that u play as good as with your other race and second the game is young, patches will come.


Uhm, what? You chose your own race, it doesn't chose you. Why should Dimaga play Zerg over Terran if he doesn't feel like it for whatever reason?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
August 15 2010 19:38 GMT
#766
haha wanna see Dimaga play T vs Demuslim Z watch Go4Sc2 now :D
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 15 2010 19:40 GMT
#767
On August 16 2010 04:35 nihlon wrote:
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On August 16 2010 04:28 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
thread is derailed i guess <:

ontopic:

doubt its a good idea to change race, first its not assured that u play as good as with your other race and second the game is young, patches will come.


Uhm, what? You chose your own race, it doesn't chose you. Why should Dimaga play Zerg over Terran if he doesn't feel like it for whatever reason?


he picked zerg bw/sc2 for a reason, going t cause of balance is bad in the early state of the game cause it might backfire with patches / or it doesnt suit your style..plz.../wrist
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Voyager I
Profile Joined July 2010
United States260 Posts
August 15 2010 19:44 GMT
#768
On August 16 2010 04:27 Acidlineup wrote:
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On August 16 2010 03:31 Voyager I wrote:
50 dmg to marauders


Sounds like a storm.

80 dmg to ur tanks


Sounds like a storm.

150 dmg to ur thors, 200 dmg to bcruisers INSTANTLY (no dodging)


You already have a spell for that.

so on and so on... well after that sure u can keep ur marines with their 30 hp left. Im in! lets do it!


Still sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Oh wait, I forgot to mention that this ability should never be able to take my units below half health and all of the damage should come back by itself after a little while.


Look, I'm not saying that T is weak, but just because one race has problems doesn't mean you get to hurl yourself on the bandwagon and try to stake an arbitrary claim on the moral high ground.


Storm is not instant.

Again, storm is NOT instant.

Feedback is not AOE spell.

It doesent need to take ur units below half health. Zlots with charge will kill marines in 1-2 hits and stalkers will kill marauders with 1-2 hits. Oh and wait, u cant have ur spell before u build a starport while i can have mine allredy for free at twilight council (nerfed to cost only 50 gas ofc).

Look, you are just bein ignorant and quoting only stuff that suits you, because u want to keep ur race advantage. Thats fine, but sadly it wont convince anyone.


Yes, it's obviously not a perfect comparison, but you're just going on and on about EMP like it's some unstoppable instagib that kills your army and automatically makes sure you never ever get a storm off.

TvZ is retarded. That is all. It does not necessarily imply anything about any other matchup.

If TvP is so bad, why aren't the top players complaining about it? What about the general community? The only people I see whining about TvP are Protoss players jumping on the bandwagon because they think TvZ gives them an excuse to say how they're really better than every Terran who beat them.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
August 15 2010 19:44 GMT
#769
On August 16 2010 04:40 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 04:35 nihlon wrote:
On August 16 2010 04:28 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
thread is derailed i guess <:

ontopic:

doubt its a good idea to change race, first its not assured that u play as good as with your other race and second the game is young, patches will come.


Uhm, what? You chose your own race, it doesn't chose you. Why should Dimaga play Zerg over Terran if he doesn't feel like it for whatever reason?


he picked zerg bw/sc2 for a reason, going t cause of balance is bad in the early state of the game cause it might backfire with patches / or it doesnt suit your style..plz.../wrist

I'm pretty sure he picked zerg because it suited his style; if it doesn't now he should switch.
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leeznon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States255 Posts
August 15 2010 19:48 GMT
#770
Wow huge deal, also heard IdrA say he's thinking about doing the same thing.

There is defiantly an issue with Zerg and I'm glad that these pros have publicly said things, hopefully Blizzard will listen.
Zerg=Skill
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 15 2010 19:51 GMT
#771
Those who are trying to prove that Ghost>HT (which is obvious) please stop it. Those who don't understand it are the same retards who say "zerg is fine, l2p", being completly ignorant. Its just that we have bigger problems now. We will realize sometime in the future that EMP is absurdly overpowered. Give it some time.
Its grack
Voyager I
Profile Joined July 2010
United States260 Posts
August 15 2010 19:52 GMT
#772
In other news, watching BigT's Gosu Cup series, we've so far seen two or three successful Nydus Worms vs Terrans.

By "successful" I mean "They got a Nydus full of units unloaded in the Terran main." Said Nydus's full of units then proceeded to die and cost their owners the game.


Scratch one more off the "Zerg just needs to be more creative" list.
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
August 15 2010 20:12 GMT
#773
Dimaga just beat Demuslim in a race switch two times at the go4sc2 finals.

I guess they agreed beforehand to split the pot.
chooooch
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
August 15 2010 20:41 GMT
#774
Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races.
Its grack
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 15 2010 20:41 GMT
#775
Statistics are not a good representation of balance and never has been.
Maybe we're all just bad at the game.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
August 15 2010 20:44 GMT
#776
On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote:
Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races.


Are you joking? They obviously shared the 200$.
Icx
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Belgium853 Posts
August 15 2010 20:45 GMT
#777
ye those games don't really mean much, it was just really obvious that they were just joking around and not really caring about the outcome
~Matthias
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada56 Posts
August 15 2010 21:19 GMT
#778
On August 16 2010 05:44 HubertFelix wrote:
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On August 16 2010 05:41 bokeevboke wrote:
Go4sc2 pretty much proves Dimaga's decision. He loses 2 games of bo5 to Demuslim with regular races and comes ahead 3-2 after they switch their races.


Are you joking? They obviously shared the 200$.



...Umm...What has that got to do with it?...
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Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
August 15 2010 21:26 GMT
#779
On August 16 2010 05:41 RoieTRS wrote:
Statistics are not a good representation of balance and never has been.
Maybe we're all just bad at the game.


Sure they are, you just have to look at the right statistics. And if we're all bad at the game as you suggest, then that's a mathematical constant and we can ignore it. What if the game is balanced perfectly at 2000apm? The answer is it doesn't matter because nobody will ever experience that.

"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
August 15 2010 21:27 GMT
#780
Indeed switching races doesn't prove much, since demuslim may be anywhere from great to mediocre as zerg while dimaga probably is very good if he has seriously thought of switching. And it indeed may have been split pot of prize money thus the games may have been just for laughs.
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