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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16707 Posts
we have Virgin Gaming willing to host sponsor and organize EA NHL leagues but SC2 is basically ignored.... what a joke. is any North American eSports major player stepping up and creating a quality competitive series( i mean with more than 10K in prize money ) for the competitive SC2 player that lives in North America ? | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
Cheers! | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
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NoMicro
Canada69 Posts
 MLG goes where the money is. If they can make a profit out of SC2, they will certainly spend even more time promoting the game. So it's an uphill battle, but we should strive for it. Also, I could see a couple contracted teams going around America. Atleast a few gamers. | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
Virgin Gaming is more targeted towards casual console games and is very far from the esports scene that most of us TLers are looking forward to. If they were going to start the next OSL they would've picked very different games, their plans are just very different from creating the next Korea. Don't worry, there will be money to be earned. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
I think you will find a lot more going on when the game goes live. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
MLG picking up starcraft will be exciting. I actually could have gone to MLG for Tekken this year but didn't have enough money. MLG is def bad ass. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On June 26 2010 21:27 Integra wrote: Like the posters above me already have mentioned both Virgin Gaming and MLG are some of the many sponsors that have showed great interest in SC2. SC2 is anything but ignored. Virgin Gaming has shown interest in sc2? I'd like a link to that plox | ||
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DISHU
United Kingdom348 Posts
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
Game is in beta still... Give it some time, I'm sure MLG at the very least has plans for SC2. Hopefully MLG is not the only company looking into sponsoring some kind of tournament scene but at least we know someone is. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On June 26 2010 21:54 gaiyeam wrote: how can you shown interest in a game that inst out yet some patience and they should pick it up. I have no idea how that would work seeing how this forum is so empty ! | ||
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UbiNax
Denmark381 Posts
On June 26 2010 20:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: from what i can see Virgin Gaming and MLG are basically ignoring SC2.. we have Virgin Gaming willing to host sponsor and organize EA NHL leagues but SC2 is basically ignored.... what a joke. is any North American eSports major player stepping up and creating a quality competitive series( i mean with more than 10K in prize money ) for the competitive SC2 player that lives in North America ? Clearly you havent payed alot of attention, MLG have stated that they have loads of plans for SC2, and im 100% sure there will be more than just MLG doing sc2 stuff in NA | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On June 26 2010 21:54 gaiyeam wrote: how can you shown interest in a game that inst out yet some patience and they should pick it up. are you feeling alright? you seem a little confused | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
 Oh well, good to see the game's getting attention in NA. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16707 Posts
Clearly you havent payed alot of attention, MLG have stated that they have loads of plans for SC2, and im 100% sure there will be more than just MLG doing sc2 stuff in NA as i've already stated in the first post... anything announced with a prize over 10K ? anything in writing? if so post it up! it'd be cool to read! | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 26 2010 23:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote: as i've already stated in the first post... anything announced with a prize over 10K ? anything in writing? if so post it up! it'd be cool to read! Also, don't forget about the OSL2, It's not based in Korea but there will be qualifiers from all over the world, then they will be flown to Korea for the RO16!! | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On June 26 2010 23:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote: as i've already stated in the first post... anything announced with a prize over 10K ? anything in writing? if so post it up! it'd be cool to read! MLG has a lot of money on their hands. They're pretty much the biggest and most successful thing there is for the US esports. StarCraft 2 on the other hand is going to be the biggest game that has entered the scene in a long time with a huge following. Naturally this will result in MLG taking the opportunity to take a piece of the SC2 cake which will result in far more than just a few >$10k tournaments. They haven't announced anything about the tournaments yet, all we know right now is from the recent Live On Three interview with Sundance, one of their top guys. Look up the episode at djwheat.tv. Virgin Gaming hasn't given out any information regarding StarCraft 2. If they do venture in to the pc gaming market it is very likely they might set up something but that is left to be seen as no one really knows anything about their intentions. I'd assume if their first year goes well and Richard Bransom deems it profitable they might expand in to Quake/CS/SC. (Which would make them look far more legit as a real esport thingy in the eyes of hardcore players.) Don't forget Blizzard themselves. They will no doubt host very lucrative tournaments in the US as well as they have done in the past. | ||
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TaaiJoeng
Hong Kong164 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Thrasymachus725
Canada527 Posts
On June 27 2010 01:08 Holcan wrote: in a simple answer, no, we are already leeching off of the Asian and European scenes for quality players. When there are big tournies out there, you will be surprised at the amount of people who strive to be pro... | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
there are loads of plans, and a butt load more to even be thought of. the game has barely been marketed for NA. | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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duck.fit
United States241 Posts
MLG is probably the best home for SC2. Every time an issue arises from the community, it is addressed immediately. Example : http://www.mlgpro.com/content/link/275154/The-Chairmans-Office-MLG-Chairman-and\ The fanbase is already there; they state outright that they are a company that isn't afraid to take risks and SC2 is far from that. I think it's pretty clear that it will be on the circuit, and hopefully the communities can get along. | ||
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SiN]
United States540 Posts
MLG has announced that they will have SC2 matches once released, similar to their current Halo scene. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
On June 27 2010 01:08 Liquid`NonY wrote: dunno where you've been man but sc2 isn't out yet on earth LOL! This. SC2 will be picked up once it is released and all the newbs jump on the band-wagon. It has the biggest following of any competitive game, why wouldn't MLG pick it up? | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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Monkeyshark
United States406 Posts
On June 26 2010 21:44 DooMDash wrote: I've been watching for tournaments at local LAN centers near me as well. Sadly none near me, closest ones being all the way in Chicago ( I'm in Milwaukee ), but I follow them on facebook now. MLG picking up starcraft will be exciting. I actually could have gone to MLG for Tekken this year but didn't have enough money. MLG is def bad ass. woah link to the tournament in chicago? | ||
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rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
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Bandreus
Italy69 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:06 SichuanPanda wrote: I see it taking up to a year after launch of retail for any pro leagues out-side of Korea to really get going - but I think unlike with BW, this time around it could actually happen that SC2 gets pro scenes outside of SK. I get the feeling we don't really manage to get how big SC2 is going to be worldwide. I mean, MLG is no doubt going to do a lot of things with it, but that is not enough. I want people to realize, how big it was the HDH and it was a first time for HD and Husky, and it was still beta. Now look at this in perspective. They did not announce anything specific yet, but I can assure to youthe second one is going to be much much bigger. This is only to make you realize, if two very committed guys are able to pull something like that, the very first reason is because the community behind this game is strong, and man, it is getting stronger and stronger every day. I have little or no doubt the SC2 eSports scene will explode in no time after the game is being released. | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On June 27 2010 02:52 Bandreus wrote: I get the feeling we don't really manage to get how big SC2 is going to be worldwide. I mean, MLG is no doubt going to do a lot of things with it, but that is not enough. I want people to realize, how big it was the HDH and it was a first time for HD and Husky, and it was still beta. Now look at this in perspective. They did not announce anything specific yet, but I can assure to youthe second one is going to be much much bigger. This is only to make you realize, if two very committed guys are able to pull something like that, the very first reason is because the community behind this game is strong, and man, it is getting stronger and stronger every day. I have little or no doubt the SC2 eSports scene will explode in no time after the game is being released. I agree entirely. | ||
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DISHU
United Kingdom348 Posts
On June 26 2010 22:25 TheAntZ wrote: are you feeling alright? you seem a little confused lol i meant sc2 isn't out yet and thus they cant set out there plans for it yet (Rome wasn't built in a day) | ||
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k!llua
Australia895 Posts
It's almost certain it'll be in WCG next year. ESL will definitely run with it. So should CEVO. Cybergamer here in Australia is already gearing up for a $3000 ladder. Pretty much every little corner of the net is going to have something SC2 related going on. I can't wait. Oh and yeh, the single-player will be awesome. Can't wait for that. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
The best thing we can do as fans, spectators, or competitors is support the companies that support Starcraft. The market will speak; if it is profitable to sponsor and host Starcraft tournaments, they will happen. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
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vT.sOel
122 Posts
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
I think someone said it earlier, that sponsors will choose LESS competitive games so that more people can participate or become fans of them so that will help them out in terms of publicity and money. Its the same reason why casual games always have more players than competitive games. In order for an actual competitive game to be sponsored in big tournaments it has to both be a good game AND have alot of people that like it, know about it, or play it. Some examples of games like this are Counterstrike (in the past, not sure how big it is now)and Halo, and Starcraft in Korea. I think the first step in getting e-sports big is to make it more popular, so that more people enjoy it. I'm not actually sure how they did it in South Korea, but you can believe that if people weren't interested in Starcraft, they probably wouldn't have OSL and MSL just because Starcraft is a good, or even the best, game. However, it does seem to be that Starcraft 2 is insanely popular, I mean I hear random joe shmoes all over the place talking about it, and almost everyone I know that plays video games is looking forward to it. I'm sure once its released and the companies see that this may very well be the most popular PC game under World of Warcraft we might start seing some big money tournaments. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On June 26 2010 20:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: from what i can see Virgin Gaming and MLG are basically ignoring SC2.. we have Virgin Gaming willing to host sponsor and organize EA NHL leagues but SC2 is basically ignored.... what a joke. is any North American eSports major player stepping up and creating a quality competitive series( i mean with more than 10K in prize money ) for the competitive SC2 player that lives in North America ? I would argue that it's a bit too early to determine if "any north america esports major player is stepping up" I'd say there is an argument to be made that there is no such thing as a "north america esports major player" but that's a matter of opinion and isn't relevant to the reality that we want as many north american esports players and organizations. Also, for a serious event you don't necessarily need an organized central "government" HDH's events are a good example of this. (though money does need to come from someone) In short, beta isn't even up at the moment, and doesn't even release for a month, and so it's hard to really make definitive statements about what the sponsors and organizers are making and who is actually serious or even legitimate. When there is anything "important" going on it will most definitely be heavily discussed on this website in the appropriate subforum I myself think SC2 will be huge on a global scale, but with the new authoritarian version of Battle.net-lite we may run into a few issues. Nothing serious though  | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
The games which sponsors can make money off of will get sponsors. That is all the sponsors care about. So if enough people follow SC2 there will be a competive scene with good sponsors. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
This is all very confusing. | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
I won a bit over $1000 from a series of tourneys sponsored by the US Army from Halo Wars on x360 and spent 6-8 months trying to get my money from them. I had to contact the BBB, the NY attorney general, and the FTC to get my money (which finally came around 8-9 months after I won). They are not very reliable with their payouts and are pretty shady in general. In addition, their tournaments are incredibly insulting. They have an enter in price of essentially between 15 and 30 dollars (10 - 25 MLG credits usually) and will pay back around 25% of the money received from the participants. They will have tournaments where 16 people enter in for 25 MLG credits and they'll pay back about $150 to the winner and $50 to second place. They directly pocket anywhere from 50-70% of the money taken in. And as above, even this small sum of money is very hard to wrestle from their hands should you win. The MLG community is also, in general, composed of Halo/Cod kids that scream "get good" and "goml" into the mic at every opportunity. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16707 Posts
On June 27 2010 12:24 iEchoic wrote: I'd be wary about MLG's support for SC2. I've been a member of gamebattles (owned by MLG) since 2003 and have followed a lot of their very poor business practices over the years. these strong comments are worthy of deeper investigation on my part.... if MLG wants to step near the oven... they better be able to handle the heat.... | ||
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