EPTThere were people who were considering the first option so obviously some people would do a small fee for the same.
Bashiok outlines possible Global Play - Page 3
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goofoffjw
United States20 Posts
There were people who were considering the first option so obviously some people would do a small fee for the same. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:36 Half wrote: idunno I find it kind of depressing that you people are so willing to accept paying for it. Why not? I mean what's your alternative? You either pay for it, or you don't get it. You can raise holy hell and bitch and moan and try to avoid it getting added to other games, but that won't change the fact that for SC2 if they choose to charge you either pay or you don't get it. So you're already paying $140+ for the 3 games. What's another $10 if what you get is the one single feature you wanted the most out of the whole feature set. This is unlike something like chat. I don't see how they could ever microtransact chat. But, xregion is a database tweak. I can't see them doing that for free. WoW provides too many examples of this. But even still, why be so cheap about it? I get that it should be free, BW had it, 10 years ago, BNet 0.2, blah blah blah. But in the end, if you want it, and they're making you pay for it, they have you by the balls. For $10 I'm not going to split hairs if that's what it ends up being. | ||
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Adeeler
United Kingdom764 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:43 Salv wrote: I doubt it would be free. I see something like this being charged in a manner similar to WOW, where you pay $25.00 to switch a character across a realm, or $15.00 to switch factions. It's something that shouldn't cost money, but it's a good money grab for them. See it isn't quite the same because those features are out of game features that still require "scarcity". Blizzard doesn't want people changing names or realms all the time, it detriments the game, but at the same time charging in game money would be dumb for meta-game services. And requiring money is as good of a plan as anything. I mean, it cheaply and easily creates artificial scarcity and they make a some money. This isn't going to be one time change, this is going to be something that anyone can use as much as possible. It isn't suppose to HAVE artificial scarcity, its a basic feature we've come to expect and frequently use in past Blizzard RTS's. Does that mean they won't charge? No. Does that mean they shouldn't charge? Yes. Blizzard had (imo) good reasons for charging for what they had in WoW. They have none here. | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
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Muirhead
United States557 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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Drin
Australia16 Posts
While it may be true that they are looking into paid services/options, there's no direct mention of that. Being an optimist, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they want to region-lock people during the first few months to avoid server overload. If you think about it, the last full retail game they launched (vanilla WoW) was absolutely plagued with launch issues due to server strain. The blizzard name is even more popular now, and while an RTS is probably not going to draw the same numbers, there is no doubt that SC2 will sell a ton of units on the first day. As angry as people are regarding the lack of cross-realm support (which is obviously the far greater issue in the long term) there would be even more people angry if they couldn't log on and play with the game they just purchased. And I would be happy to pay a small fee for cross realm support, as long as it is reasonable. Obviously it would have to cost less than a retail copy, else no-one would utilise the option, but the real kicker would be saving on the expansions. On a side note, it is interesting to note that you will be able to add multiple sc2 licenses (for different regions) to the same account. | ||
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:48 Muirhead wrote: I finally understand Blizzard's perspective in all this. They really want to charge people in China a different amount for the game than people in America, etc. etc., because the ideal pricing to maximize profits differs wildly between regions. What they want to avoid is people in Europe buying say the cheaper Chinese version of Starcraft 2 and then just logging in to their local server. Why they limit all "full versions" then? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Of course those extra pounds would hurt when you are doing anything but sitting in front of your PC. O: | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:46 Takkara wrote: Why not? I mean what's your alternative? You either pay for it, or you don't get it. You can raise holy hell and bitch and moan and try to avoid it getting added to other games, but that won't change the fact that for SC2 if they choose to charge you either pay or you don't get it. So you're already paying $140+ for the 3 games. What's another $10 if what you get is the one single feature you wanted the most out of the whole feature set. This is unlike something like chat. I don't see how they could ever microtransact chat. But, xregion is a database tweak. I can't see them doing that for free. WoW provides too many examples of this. But even still, why be so cheap about it? I get that it should be free, BW had it, 10 years ago, BNet 0.2, blah blah blah. But in the end, if you want it, and they're making you pay for it, they have you by the balls. For $10 I'm not going to split hairs if that's what it ends up being. There isn't any choice yet because pricing has not been determined. They're evaluating community response to determine adequate pricing. Every person that says "yeah whatever" is indirectly contributing to making us lose 10$. If every single person said "No wtf we won't pay for whats been a free feature for the past 15 years", then Blizzard won't charge for it. If everyone says "yeah whatever", then Blizzard will. You have no reason to not stand by your interests as a consumer. Blizzard isn't unethical or even greedy for charging for a feature most of you want to pay for. The question is why the fuck do you want to pay for it? Thats just being a tool pretty much  . | ||
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TossFloss
Canada606 Posts
On June 17 2010 Bashiok wrote: Unfortunately, there are a multitude of challenges we have to overcome due to the unique regional account and billing options that didn't exist in the past. Replace options with restrictions and append: that we created But those hurdles aren't insurmountable But we thought the technology just isn't there yet. /sarcasm and we are looking into solutions that will allow interested players to obtain access to other regional versions without having to buy another full copy of the game. Those solutions are something we're currently planning to have available through Battle.net Account Management within the first few months of StarCraft II's release. Golly Gee, what ever will you come up with? | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:36 Half wrote: idunno I find it kind of depressing that you people are so willing to accept paying for it. it is depressing... its kind of amusing to watch peoples reactions though... first when faced with the fact that you simply have to purchase another $60 client for each region people RAGE! give it a few weeks and then say that it will more than likely be a microtransaction and everyone jumps for joy! had they of initially just come out and said they were going to charge people a fee to play in different regions everyone would have been just as pissed as when they told them they have to purchase additional copies of the game! Its like telling them their car was utterly destroyed in the parking lot and than saying "nah its just a small dent", shock and awe.... | ||
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:49 Drin wrote: I think it is great that they are actually commenting on the situation, even providing some hope that it might be free. While it may be true that they are looking into paid services/options, there's no direct mention of that. Being an optimist, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they want to region-lock people during the first few months to avoid server overload. If you think about it, the last full retail game they launched (vanilla WoW) was absolutely plagued with launch issues due to server strain. The blizzard name is even more popular now, and while an RTS is probably not going to draw the same numbers, there is no doubt that SC2 will sell a ton of units on the first day. As angry as people are regarding the lack of cross-realm support (which is obviously the far greater issue in the long term) there would be even more people angry if they couldn't log on and play with the game they just purchased. Why would people switch to one server in SC2? That function is only used when you want to play something specific/somebody specific from other server. It had never happen whit any other of the BN games, WOW is a mmorpg so there are diferent reason on why people want to join x server that Diablo/SC/WC players don't have. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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omninmo
2349 Posts
step 1. Blatantly leave out cross-realm options step 2. Respond by saying that "we have realized how important cross-realm play is to the community." step 3. Offer a new "service" whereby a fee is collected to "unlock" cross-realm play. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:02 Baarn wrote: Blizzard is a company that has a successful business model that they offer a product and charge for services. It's not like they are charging a sub each month for Starcraft 2. You want to do anything outside of playing the game on the region you bought then you gotta suck it up and pay more. It's heartbreaking I know. Any of you are welcome to go start your own game company and not have micro transactions for any of your products. Except the previously made several statements where we would be getting free service updates to b-net 2.0. | ||
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