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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
June 17 2010 19:44 GMT
#241
Accounts are through Bnet. I play on the Asia server because I have a Bnet account that says I'm from Taiwan or Korea or wherever. Where you buy the game makes no difference. It's all about where you say you're from on Bnet.
Life is Good.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 17 2010 19:53 GMT
#242
On June 18 2010 04:44 Alou wrote:
Accounts are through Bnet. I play on the Asia server because I have a Bnet account that says I'm from Taiwan or Korea or wherever. Where you buy the game makes no difference. It's all about where you say you're from on Bnet.


Good logic there when you haven't even bought the game /sarcasm
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 17 2010 19:55 GMT
#243
On June 18 2010 04:44 Alou wrote:
Accounts are through Bnet. I play on the Asia server because I have a Bnet account that says I'm from Taiwan or Korea or wherever. Where you buy the game makes no difference. It's all about where you say you're from on Bnet.



I wouldn't put that in the book of law yet, weren't people saying some copies were simply region locked?

Blizzard Betas tend to function MUCH differently than a final version of the product when it comes to default gateways... this will be no different, considering this is a brand new framework too. I wouldn't say anything is for certain, regardless of what copy you buy, or where your bnet is attached to, it can definitely go either way.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 20:19:51
June 17 2010 20:12 GMT
#244
On June 18 2010 04:11 FrozenArbiter wrote:


And if not - meh, if someone wants to import the game from China and pay a bunch of shipping... I just can't see this having more than a negligible effect on anything? As long as the online store is locked based on region (i.e steam - I'm european so I'm stuck paying 10€ for games you North Americans pay 10$ for, which is stupid but a fact of life).

Doesn't this price difference exist for any modern game? Yet I can't think of any region importing foreign games aside from Australia, cause Australia is apparently a fucked up 3rd world country who get video games years after everyone else and have to pay twice as much


There was actually issue with this on Steam recently. Sure, on an individual level its fine, but the issue is what happens when a reseller does this. Recently a reseller got cheap editions of orange box from Malaysia and sold them on the US for a rediculous profit. The people who bought the game were banned (lolsteam)...they didn't purchase online, this was a box edition that required steam registration.

To my knowledge, there aren't laws preventing this kind of importation.

On June 18 2010 04:29 USn wrote:


It's like that in other games - for example, MTGO's community managers had a say.


Look I'm not quite sure how you got "a say" and "decision making process" confused.

Blizzard takes feedback from their employees seriously. That doesn't mean that the -CMs had any level of decision making power, nor did they in MTGO is my guess.
Too Busy to Troll!
Luvz
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway356 Posts
June 17 2010 20:14 GMT
#245
if they make this free and they actully do it, ill eat my shoes on blizzcon next year. ON CAMRA if possible.
Norway ~ Home of the brave <3
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 17 2010 20:21 GMT
#246
On June 18 2010 05:12 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 04:11 FrozenArbiter wrote:


And if not - meh, if someone wants to import the game from China and pay a bunch of shipping... I just can't see this having more than a negligible effect on anything? As long as the online store is locked based on region (i.e steam - I'm european so I'm stuck paying 10€ for games you North Americans pay 10$ for, which is stupid but a fact of life).

Doesn't this price difference exist for any modern game? Yet I can't think of any region importing foreign games aside from Australia, cause Australia is apparently a fucked up 3rd world country who get video games years after everyone else and have to pay twice as much


There was actually issue with this on Steam recently. Sure, on an individual level its fine, but the issue is what happens when a reseller does this. Recently a reseller got cheap editions of orange box from Malaysia and sold them on the US for a rediculous profit. The people who bought the game were banned (lolsteam)...they didn't purchase online, this was a box edition that required steam registration.

To my knowledge, there aren't laws preventing this kind of importation.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 04:29 USn wrote:


It's like that in other games - for example, MTGO's community managers had a say.


Look I'm not quite sure how you got "a say" and "decision making process" confused.

Blizzard takes feedback from their employees seriously. That doesn't mean that the -CMs had any level of decision making power, nor did they in MTGO is my guess.

Wow really? That's... disgusting behavior. You can't ban the people who bought it, come on :/
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 20:36:21
June 17 2010 20:29 GMT
#247
On June 18 2010 05:21 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Wow really? That's... disgusting behavior. You can't ban the people who bought it, come on :/


Not TF2, my bad, MW2.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/11/valve-bans-grey-market-modern-warfare-2-keys/

Its among the many reasons I hate Steam. Also, they don't have a ban appeals process, so if someone hacks your account then cheats, all your games get banned.

The fact that someone can take away the single player local component of a game I physically bought is completely disgusting, agreed.

Waits until someone connects Activisions involvement. Actually, that one isn't so far fetched.
Too Busy to Troll!
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
June 17 2010 20:51 GMT
#248
On June 18 2010 04:44 Alou wrote:
Accounts are through Bnet. I play on the Asia server because I have a Bnet account that says I'm from Taiwan or Korea or wherever. Where you buy the game makes no difference. It's all about where you say you're from on Bnet.

Not true, or maybe true for beta only. Game licenses are going to be region specific. You won't be able to buy cheap Russian version and play in US.

It's kinda obvious, but if you need blue quote for that:
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Detecting and locking people based on IP is generally a bad idea. Aside from situations where someone may be on vacation, military leave, etc. and get locked to a region they aren't actually from, it's extremely easy to proxy an IP in a region that you want to pretend to be from. It just isn't a workable solution.

Having the game licenses themselves be region specific is really the only way to go. It doesn't inherently cause any issues, the main cause of the issue is offering different business models that appeal to each region.

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171934229&sid=3000&pageNo=4#63
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
June 18 2010 00:36 GMT
#249
If i have to pay a really really small ammount to play in other server i will not mind.
below 10us i hope.
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 00:43:59
June 18 2010 00:43 GMT
#250
On June 18 2010 05:12 Half wrote:
Look I'm not quite sure how you got "a say" and "decision making process" confused.

Blizzard takes feedback from their employees seriously. That doesn't mean that the -CMs had any level of decision making power, nor did they in MTGO is my guess.


If there is any confusion, it's on your end. I'm perfectly clear in what I'm saying.

Those phrases are synonymous the way I used them.

I don't know why you feel the need to dispute the fact that some community managers have a higher level of involvement than the blizzard ones apparently do.
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 00:56:05
June 18 2010 00:51 GMT
#251
[deleted] sorry, I was restating the obvious
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
June 18 2010 00:56 GMT
#252
Shhhh!! People don't let them hear you ADMIT you would pay money for this cross region play. ALL content should be available with original game purchase. This crap where people with extra money to waste get more nick nacks for their game or whatever should never be tolerated. EVER. Not for Starcraft at least.
Being weak is a choice.
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 01:12:19
June 18 2010 01:11 GMT
#253
On June 18 2010 09:56 ckw wrote:
Shhhh!! People don't let them hear you ADMIT you would pay money for this cross region play. ALL content should be available with original game purchase. This crap where people with extra money to waste get more nick nacks for their game or whatever should never be tolerated. EVER. Not for Starcraft at least.

Exactly.

See my [overly long] post on page 11. This one.

I will never ever ever ever pay money for cross region play and Blizzard will lose expansion pack revenue if this is how it will play out.

My words, mark them!
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
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