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Santriel
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium33 Posts
June 01 2010 18:17 GMT
#581
@ ryanjm:

Mediocracy is a system that allows 50.1% of the population to massacre the other 49.9%.

'Nuff said. If you believe the scam that is "democracy" you're obviously too dumb to have any say in anything.
By fire be purged !
BillyMole
Profile Joined March 2010
United States118 Posts
June 01 2010 19:08 GMT
#582
On June 01 2010 18:50 Jaug wrote:
Even though they clearly focus on profit I would not buy activision blizzard shares, and I can't really see why someone would. Their business modell will clearly fall apart, not now but maybe in 15 years. Their CEO Kotick made $110 million dollars 2009 and the total profit of the company was $113 million (problem anyone?). I just don't see why running games into the ground for a quick fix would make the share attractive or create value for that sake.


This is very true. Unfortunately, Kotick is not the exception in the modern marketplace, he is the rule. Companies are all laser-focused on milking the highest possible immediate profit from their products, and have absolutely no regard for the long-term stability of their market. Case in point, Kotick is milking the fast money for all it's worth, and when he thinks the fast money has been sucked dry, he kills the studio.

Just look at Infinity Ward. It is abundantly clear that he thought he could force the studio into producing MW3, and at the same time make a quick buck by firing the heads and withholding the royalty money. He clearly has enough faith in his lawyers that he's not worried about actually having to pay that money out, and thinks that this way he can get the best of both worlds. He gets to keep a lot of money, and continue to milk the Modern Warfare cash cow. He knows full well that despite how pissed of many people are about the state of MW2, any game called MW3, no matter how terrible, will sell extraordinarily well.

When many of Infinity Ward's personnel quit rather than live under Activision's thumb, this affected him to the sum of zero. Programmers are easy to find, and he can easily fill up the ranks and crank out MW3, and that gamers will buy it no matter how much he nickel and dimes them, no matter how much total they end up paying, and no matter how terrible the service is.

This, in essence, is our problem. CEOs KNOW that they can basically do whatever they want to the gamers, and we'll just roll over and take it. Just look at the thread on BNet 2.0. 95% of us hate that PoS, yet almost all of us freely admit that we're going to buy the game anyway. Gaming companies know that, when it comes right down to it, most gamers are ignorant to what actually goes on in the industry. They just walk into a game store to get their next sequel or game, and couldn't care less what the company does. Even if we successfully organized a boycott of all the SC2 gamers who know what's going on, it would barely affect Activision at all, since there are still millions out there who are going to buy it and probably woudln't know that the boycott exists at all.
ZergTurd
Profile Joined June 2010
83 Posts
June 01 2010 19:25 GMT
#583
What a shock, the CEO of a huge company is a greedy POS. Welcome to the real world. It's sad Blizzard is linked to that giant douchebag but in the end it's all about the dollars. This is the biggest reason why games have been so hollow recently.. all style and no substance. Studios are forced to pump out games as fast as they can, for the most part.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
June 01 2010 19:48 GMT
#584
this makes me feel ill
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Senix
Profile Joined October 2004
Germany149 Posts
June 01 2010 20:10 GMT
#585
Battle.net 2.0 new Terms of Use:

"User Content" means any communications, images, sounds, and all the material and information that you upload or transmit through a Game client or the Service, or that other users upload or transmit, including without limitation any chat text. You hereby grant Blizzard a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, paid-up, non-exclusive, license, including the right to sublicense to third parties, and right to reproduce, fix, adapt, modify, translate, reformat, create derivative works from, manufacture, introduce into circulation, publish, distribute, sell, license, sublicense, transfer, rent, lease, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, or provide access to electronically, broadcast, communicate to the public by telecommunication, display, perform, enter into computer memory, and use and practice such User Content as well as all modified and derivative works thereof. To the extent permitted by applicable laws, you hereby waive any moral rights you may have in any User Content.


Wow... this is crazy.
thedooper
Profile Joined June 2010
1 Post
June 01 2010 21:22 GMT
#586
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Not-Buying-Starcraft-2/121958131177377

Join up if you aren't gonna take this shit. It's a boycott. And I don't plan on pirating it either, that just shows them we still want to play their games.
Goga[OEP]
Profile Joined June 2010
13 Posts
June 01 2010 21:34 GMT
#587
On June 02 2010 06:22 thedooper wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Not-Buying-Starcraft-2/121958131177377

Join up if you aren't gonna take this shit. It's a boycott. And I don't plan on pirating it either, that just shows them we still want to play their games.


I just canceled my pre-order. I would join but I don't use facebook. No way im paying $125 here for a collector's edition when I don' know whats going to happen to SC2 and Bnet 2.0
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
June 01 2010 23:10 GMT
#588
This is sickening. Looks like Activision is running people down to the ground and are making money from it.
to live is to suffer
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 01 2010 23:20 GMT
#589
On June 01 2010 12:45 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 12:40 backtoback wrote:
Zuckerberg: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuckerberg: Just ask.
Zuckerberg: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuckerberg: People just submitted it.
Zuckerberg: I don't know why.
Zuckerberg: They "trust me"
Zuckerberg: Dumb f*cks.


wait can anyone comprehend what is he trying to state?


Those were statements from the creator of Facebook. He basically admits that he's willing to give out anybody's information and that his users are "dumb f*cks". Not exactly the kind of message you want to give out to people.

To be fair, they were IMs while he was still running Facebook from his dorm room, and the context is unknown. Inferring anything about Zuckerberg's willingness to give out information from that is going to be massive speculation.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 23:27:38
June 01 2010 23:25 GMT
#590
On June 02 2010 08:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 12:45 Spawkuring wrote:
On June 01 2010 12:40 backtoback wrote:
Zuckerberg: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuckerberg: Just ask.
Zuckerberg: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuckerberg: People just submitted it.
Zuckerberg: I don't know why.
Zuckerberg: They "trust me"
Zuckerberg: Dumb f*cks.


wait can anyone comprehend what is he trying to state?


Those were statements from the creator of Facebook. He basically admits that he's willing to give out anybody's information and that his users are "dumb f*cks". Not exactly the kind of message you want to give out to people.

To be fair, they were IMs while he was still running Facebook from his dorm room, and the context is unknown. Inferring anything about Zuckerberg's willingness to give out information from that is going to be massive speculation.



lol youll just defend anyone now wont you....


He refers to the people who trust him with there info as dumb fucks. How much more context do you really need to infer from that?
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
June 01 2010 23:28 GMT
#591
http://www.causes.com/causes/491387

For those who don't use Facebook, or even those using Facebook, join above. A link in the OP is requested.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
June 01 2010 23:43 GMT
#592
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Not-Buying-Starcraft-2/121958131177377

Join up if you aren't gonna take this shit. It's a boycott. And I don't plan on pirating it either, that just shows them we still want to play their games.


Not buying a game is your right as a customer. However much I think the reasons you are doing so are utterly misinformed and wrongheaded in almost every way, I respect your right to buy what you want, and I also commend you for not pirating the game.

That being said, your presentation is highly questionable, and not likely to attract anyone who is not already a hardcore fan utterly consumed in rage.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 23:46:08
June 01 2010 23:44 GMT
#593
I expect the option to reset your stats as a payed "service" later in SC2. Would explain why they were so eager to have this single account system without the possibility to create smurf accounts.
"Are you unhappy with your 50% stats? Do you want to get the perfect score to show to your friends? Reset your stats now for only 19,99$!"

Same thing with the realm restricted versions, if you want to play with your friends from overseas go buy the version. Or maybe we'll be able to "buy" our entry to the other gateways later.

It's only that. Blizz (Activision) has learned how to create artificial boundaries which the players desperately want to cross (to be able to play with their friends, to reset their stats because they want to run for a better win %) and they let them pay for it dearly.
That's also the only job I really see that this Kotick guy has: Invent new ways to split up services into smaller units and make them "pay-to-play" or "pay-to-use" that would normally have been a whole and/or taken for granted from a buyer's perspective. His guitar hero example shows it perfectly.

Activision/Blizz functions just like the church: They have their followers and believers over whose feelings and longings they command to a degree and they know exactly how to rip that off effectively. Who in their right mind would be willing to accept the following in the real world: "Okay, you bought this meal, now we offer you the additional feature "Spoon" for 5$ and also the feature "Knife" for the same price. When you buy the bundle "Spoon & Knife" you only pay 8,99$ and save 1$! Buy it now!". No one would. Because you take these things for granted, and out of good reason. But when people are addicted or have very strong "needs" they are willing to make sacrifices if somebody is evil enough to exploit them. Just like Kotick - he could also effectively have been the CEO of the catholic church 1000 years ago. "You wanna go to heaven? Then you must give us all your possessions - that's the only way". INVENT out of thin air artificial "services" which are not justified as to the invested work by the provider and let the people pay for it. That only works with people who are dependent. Like we who want to go to US East/West to play with our friends or people in the middle ages who wanted to go to heaven. All dependent and all easily exploitable.
Jadix
Profile Joined September 2004
United States134 Posts
June 01 2010 23:45 GMT
#594


lol youll just defend anyone now wont you....

He refers to the people who trust him with there info as dumb fucks. How much more context do you really need to infer from that?


It was a fucking joke to his friend on an IM session in COLLEGE. its a fucking JOKE. Until you find proof of him making deals and selling private information, you have absolutely nothing.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 23:49:42
June 01 2010 23:47 GMT
#595
On June 02 2010 08:45 Jadix wrote:
Show nested quote +


lol youll just defend anyone now wont you....

He refers to the people who trust him with there info as dumb fucks. How much more context do you really need to infer from that?


It was a fucking joke to his friend on an IM session in COLLEGE. its a fucking JOKE. Until you find proof of him making deals and selling private information, you have absolutely nothing.



Your right. It is a fucking joke. But not in the way your thinking. Mark Zuckerman has continually demonstrated that his respect of your personal information is syncronious with that quote.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 02 2010 00:02 GMT
#596
Why do I get the feeling strategies like this, by the largest video game publishers, is going to cause another industry crash like in the 80s? Too many games, too much shit, nobody wants to pay premium dollar for complete shit, industry collapses.
Ravensthorpe
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia11 Posts
June 02 2010 11:07 GMT
#597
Seems like they're really hyuking themselves







(original meaning, before he started winning)
sRaven
Darkstar-
Profile Joined May 2010
8 Posts
June 02 2010 11:15 GMT
#598
On June 02 2010 08:44 Ghardo wrote:
Activision/Blizz functions just like the church: They have their followers and believers over whose feelings and longings they command to a degree and they know exactly how to rip that off effectively. Who in their right mind would be willing to accept the following in the real world: "Okay, you bought this meal, now we offer you the additional feature "Spoon" for 5$ and also the feature "Knife" for the same price. When you buy the bundle "Spoon & Knife" you only pay 8,99$ and save 1$! Buy it now!". No one would. Because you take these things for granted, and out of good reason. But when people are addicted or have very strong "needs" they are willing to make sacrifices if somebody is evil enough to exploit them. Just like Kotick - he could also effectively have been the CEO of the catholic church 1000 years ago. "You wanna go to heaven? Then you must give us all your possessions - that's the only way". INVENT out of thin air artificial "services" which are not justified as to the invested work by the provider and let the people pay for it. That only works with people who are dependent. Like we who want to go to US East/West to play with our friends or people in the middle ages who wanted to go to heaven. All dependent and all easily exploitable.


Ah, you mean just like Apple today.
Vancebla_
Profile Joined May 2010
29 Posts
June 02 2010 17:00 GMT
#599
well I have pretty much lost all interest in this game.

I can't wait for age of empires 4...
aoe3 > sc2
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
June 02 2010 17:23 GMT
#600
This makes me feel like private servers for starcraft 2 HAVE to come out so we can break free of the power of these evil guys. Otherwise, we should all just go back to BW, which was made by the TRUE Blizzard, not these fake posers that now call themselves Blizzard.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
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