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Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
May 29 2010 14:08 GMT
#521
I'm so worried this is getting less exposure than the chat channels. I can wait for chat channels a little while, this concept makes the SC2 a non starter in my book.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 29 2010 14:10 GMT
#522
On May 29 2010 23:08 Immersion_ wrote:
I'm so worried this is getting less exposure than the chat channels. I can wait for chat channels a little while, this concept makes the SC2 a non starter in my book.



They are all linked together

Chat channels, crossrealm play, lan, real leagues, clans...


Its all a result of Blizzard not listening to the community.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 14:21:47
May 29 2010 14:16 GMT
#523
So fucking annoyed by the mess they've created, I would have been ok with it if Blizzard from the outset talked about making SC2 for the casual players first and foremost. Not even talking about e-sport at all, that woulda been more "OK" at this point.

But they've been flirting with us hardcore fans and the e-sport scene ever since SC2 was announced, and we have seen NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that indicates that they actually give a fuck about the e-sport scene besides some cute statistics in replays.

No cross region play
No LAN
No chat channels
No watching replays together
No global or region ladder.

Sigh..


The lag is not the issue Blizzard, EU players can play with low latency on US ever since the lowered latency/UDP changes(which will hopefully be fixed soon) and vice versa.
DON'T GIVE US THAT EXCUSE PLEASE.

Just tell us that you don't give a fuck about the longetivity (e-sport aspect) of this game.
Please realize then that, while you will sell millions of boxes upon release of each game, the sales of these will drop more so than if the game was actually a viable e-sport and generated interest 7 years from now. Much like Broodwar have done.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
May 29 2010 14:19 GMT
#524
/signed

Scrolled through FB just to see this. Definitely sad scene for all here on TL and more others who actually see SC and SC2 as an esport and/or more than just a game.
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On May 29 2010 23:16 Senx wrote:
So fucking annoyed by the mess they've created, I would have been ok with it if Blizzard from the outset talked about making SC2 for the casual players first and foremost. Not even talking about e-sport at all, that woulda been more "OK" at this point.

But they've been flirting with us hardcore fans and the e-sport scene ever since SC2 was announced, and we have seen NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that indicates that they actually give a fuck about the e-sport scene besides some cute statistics in replays.

No cross region play
No LAN
No chat channels
No watching replays together
No global or region ladder.

Sigh..

The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
May 29 2010 15:32 GMT
#525
/signed

this is just sad... the raining day doesnt help to feel better either... Hope Blizzard listen the community and act accordingly..
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
Forlorn
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)69 Posts
May 29 2010 15:46 GMT
#526
/signed
Hi
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
May 29 2010 15:51 GMT
#527
/signed

No LAN at least has an understandable reason, the reasoning for this is BS
DJ, put it back on!
reddog1999
Profile Joined June 2009
United States143 Posts
May 29 2010 15:54 GMT
#528
/signed

Frank Pearce just wants a brand new personal jet
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 15:57:49
May 29 2010 15:55 GMT
#529
I just dont understand why the wouldn't be considering this. Both Chat Channels AND cross realm play were available easily in BW. Why take such a key part of the game out in sc2, when everyone is CLEARLY wanting it. I could understand if it was a controversial issue like auto-mine or smartcast, where the community would indeed be torn between keeping it in or leaving it out, but this shit is real. I have seen THOUSANDS of people screaming to let chat channels live, as well as cross realm competition, but I have yet to see the fool to step up and say, "No chat channels please, they are too distracting and I wont get to silver league if im just chatting the whole time." Likewise I have yet to see some one voice an opinion AGAINST cross realm play. So my question is, if the whole fucking community is united in their decision about these two matters, then why the fuck aren't you (BLIZZARD) Doing something about it? Sure you are going to make loads of money off this game, it's a given. But who is going to keep this game going for 10+ years, who's going to make it a classic like BW was? It's not the kids who buy the game to play the campaign, who don't give a shit about the real issues. It will be us, the REAL "sc2 community", that is if you let us have one. The way the creation of this game is playing out now, I believe is a recipe for disaster. The balance of the game itself seems fine, and I don't even care if 1 unit is imbalanced or whatever, that can be fixed fast. But this issue seems to be eating away at like 99% of the community, so please just listen to us and understand where we are coming from.

Thanks
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 29 2010 15:59 GMT
#530
/signed

Even if chat channels aren't wanted by anybody, it wouldn't be hard to make them available, through a pseudo IRC system. It would please many, and I don't see any reason it would hurt..................
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 29 2010 16:40 GMT
#531
Honestly, I don't think this is a money grab. I think the problem is:

1. Blizzard wants all SC2 internet traffic routed through its servers, rather than being peer-to-peer. (correct me if I'm wrong about this, but from the outside it seems to be the case)
2. Cross-realm play is infeasible (too laggy) with this setup.
3. Cross-realm play is a lower priority than routing all traffic through their servers.

In this case, the extra money from people who buy multiple versions of SC2 is just a minor bonus, not a significant motivation.

So not only do we need to convince Blizzard that cross-realm play is important, but also either:
(a) laggy cross-realm play is a lot better than no (single-copy) cross-realm play, or
(b) cross-realm play is more important than routing all traffic through Bnet.

Personally, I think what we really want is (b). I'm sure routing all traffic through Bnet benefits us in small ways, but being able to play with half our SCBW friends and to have international online competitions are FAR more beneficial.
UbiNax
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark381 Posts
May 29 2010 16:48 GMT
#532
./Signed they need to fix it!
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
May 29 2010 17:03 GMT
#533
Everyone seems to have missed the point!
I have only one question for blizzard, will they at least kiss us while they are fucking us in the ass?
En Taro Adun, Executor!
rugmonkey
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom126 Posts
May 29 2010 17:10 GMT
#534
/signed I thought this was a joke to start with.
chukolna
Profile Joined February 2010
78 Posts
May 29 2010 17:43 GMT
#535
/signed
Grow up Raj, there's no place for truth on the Internet.
Redder
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland40 Posts
May 29 2010 17:48 GMT
#536
/signed
A wild Pidgey appears!
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 18:27:24
May 29 2010 18:26 GMT
#537
in a other thread someone had a good idea. If you have to high latency to a other player you dont get him as enemy in ladder. So you can play worldwide and noone can complain over lagger.
Save gaming: kill esport
yiff
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
May 29 2010 18:30 GMT
#538
They should just set up one giant "hamachie-esque" worldwide server for everyone to connect to. That way we can all play on lan latency.
Kruxt
Profile Joined April 2010
United States113 Posts
May 29 2010 18:33 GMT
#539
On May 29 2010 18:08 Tiazi wrote:
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The stone can have tournaments:
Who can throw me further!
Protect Ya Neck
Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
May 29 2010 18:33 GMT
#540
btw people we need to share the new with other website

just looked in gosugamer website and they know nothing about what happen , same for many other website.

before give 1 star rating in amazon , better let every fans know what happen . my english realy suck so im not posting there , but i realy hope some people will start doing it .
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