Well.. thats rough for protoss. They got nerfed HARD with this whole force field crushing ability. As if it was bad enough that any Protoss not named White-Ra was getting owned hard lately, they have to nerf them more and buff terran even more.

Guess Im playing Z again. Which wasnt even fixed, Ultras problem wasnt dmg, they just died too fast.. and roaches not back to 1 supply.

Stupid patch

exegr

Greece1 Post

May 21 2010 03:43 GMT

#162

On May 21 2010 12:35 Tanatos wrote:
imagine frenzy on baneling...

or mutas.. crazy aoe :S

Tristan

Canada566 Posts

May 21 2010 03:43 GMT

#163

On May 21 2010 12:41 Zato-1 wrote:
Whoa. Pretty substantial changes there- most of the changes look like they're taking the game in the right direction, but there's one change I'm immediately opposed to:

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This basically means that Zerg can continue growing past 200/200 supply, because they can train infinite Overseers which will be combat-capable units with patch 13. Not a fan of Zerg being the only race for which 200 supply isn't a hard cap on their army strength.

Infested terrans are like ridiculously weak and have a very short duration. This ability is basically just for harassing an unsuspecting mineral line, and even them at 125 energy you won't get a lot of harassment out of it.

ohN

United States1075 Posts

May 21 2010 03:43 GMT

#164

I think my ZvP got a lot easier but my ZvT is gonna be exactly the same as pre-patch although 50 dmg ultras sound like they have some potential.

ManiacTheZealot

United States490 Posts

May 21 2010 03:44 GMT

#165

This is interesting. I'm still worried about the ultralisk. The cost to create ultras has seemingly increased if it is indeed a requirement to have infestors with them. They still have their extremely long build time/upgrade time. So I guess it all comes down to how effective they will be. For the time/cost investment they would have to be borderline overpowered to justify making them still. I am still in favor of making them less effective but faster to obtain much like the colossus and thor are.

I am really excited about the overseer changes. That will definitely be fun and justify spending 100 gas on them.

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

May 21 2010 03:44 GMT

#166

On May 21 2010 12:40 Three wrote:
Contaminate should really slow production, not completely halt it.

yea this seems like a much better idea imo

btw Map Publishing ftw =D

Deadlift

United States358 Posts

May 21 2010 03:44 GMT

#167

Can everyone who's bitching about Frenzy please tell me how it's that different from D Matrix?

Frost.stropheum

United States71 Posts

May 21 2010 03:44 GMT

#168

On May 21 2010 12:12 Crabman123 wrote:
Contaminate spell added: Costs 75 energy - Targets a single enemy structure which cannot train units or research upgrades for 30 seconds

The amount of theory crafting I'm doing in my head right now is really giving me a headache.

This is the old corruption ability corruptors had before. Very useful spell

Tristan

Canada566 Posts

May 21 2010 03:44 GMT

#169

Sentry Force Fields - Force Fields can now be destroyed by Massive ground units walking over them.

I can hear orb's screams from here

Rabiator

Germany3948 Posts

May 21 2010 03:44 GMT

#170

Frenzy spell will make Hydralisks become even deadlier. Not good IMO. At 25 energy and 30 seconds duration you get a lot of utility from it and the Infestor can stay safe in the back and still deal damage. Very bad decision IMO.

Centrin

United States72 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#171

I hope enabling UDP will help solve the massive ping problems bnet 2.0 has

avilo

United States4100 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#172

as usual, excellent patch by blizzard.

AcrossFiveJulys

United States3612 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#173

when is this patch supposed to go online?

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#174

On May 21 2010 12:42 Skyze wrote:
Well.. thats rough for protoss. They got nerfed HARD with this whole force field crushing ability. As if it was bad enough that any Protoss not named White-Ra was getting owned hard lately, they have to nerf them more and buff terran even more.

Guess Im playing Z again. Which wasnt even fixed, Ultras problem wasnt dmg, they just died too fast.. and roaches not back to 1 supply.

Stupid patch

the problem wasnt them dying too fast because in mass they were still hard to kill, it was not getting cluttered or stuck on shit to actually be able to get into battle

with frenzy/FF crush it will be alot easier.

THEN AGAIN, we also havent considered the hidden changes blizz always makes, that they dont list. i mean hell u ltras could walk over lings now for all we know

Lollersauce

United States357 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#175

so basically they added a requirement to "efficient" use of ultras (frenzy) and nerfed their hp by 25%. I can totally see how they're going to reach the enemy to get a few swings in now. thanks Blizzard!

PS Dustin Browder is a tard.

Triik

Canada51 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#176

"Zerg Spore Crawler changed from W to A to avoid conflict with the Select All Warp Gates hotkey."

More lols, but seriously terrans getting stronger and stronger by the patch, protoss getting weaker and weaker every patch. zerg basically getting the exact same spells switched between units.

But hey, ladder resets incoming, thats nice, oh and diamond leagues inc and removing copper leagues, so basically the exact same thing except previous copper leaguers feel better cuz now they are in a league made with a better metal.

is it just me or is blizzard's gold -> platinum -> diamond copying OSL golden mouse -> plat mouse -> diamond mouse concept?

slimdagger

United States84 Posts

May 21 2010 03:45 GMT

#177

On May 21 2010 12:41 TheElitists wrote:

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lord
of the brood

Yes, oh man. Pouring rain of the little monsters.

Shatter

United States1401 Posts

May 21 2010 03:46 GMT

#178

This patch just makes me want SC1 promod for SC2 even more.

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

May 21 2010 03:46 GMT

#179

i loved how in their explanation they said ultras would be stronger against marauders. when in reality nerfing their hp is going to make them so so so much weaker. stimmed marauders could already completely annihilate ultras before they can get in range to attack. now it's just going to be worse. also no addressing the issue that ultras are like protoss casting 2 forcefields. often times it's a hindrance to the efficiency of your army to produce ultralisks. the only time i can see them being useful is if they come in from a flank (side/behind)

but really. i. like alot of people feel like sinking the massive resource cost into ultras. just puts you behind and feels like your throwing the game away. broodlords are still much better