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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
March 21 2011 04:01 GMT
#1361
There's no mention of 1.3 support yet, does it support PTR 1.3 replays now, or not yet?
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Vestige
Profile Joined November 2009
United States303 Posts
March 21 2011 04:19 GMT
#1362
ok..i cant seem to download the zip file....it takes me to http://download1311.mediafire.com/lu32d37db31g/lnz0gdpa87o1l39/Sc2gears-4.4.1.zip but the page is blank...
"You'd wish it were hell"
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1363
On March 21 2011 07:12 neo_sporin wrote:
Here is a question that I expect the answer will be something along the lines of "while possible it would take to much work and isn't going to happen" but still an idea

Would it be possible for sc2gears to export data to a server which keeps track of matchups of individual players and the outcome to come up with a rating system of players based on their win/loss and strength of opponents?

Obviously at this time Blizzard isn't interested in letting individual players get an idea of their skill outside of the league breakdown and from what I have seen this program is used by enough people high on the ladder that were it possible we could start getting a good idea of peoples actual skill rating.

Isn't Sc2ranks.com what you're looking for?
https://repmastered.icza.net
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1364
On March 21 2011 13:01 Xapti wrote:
There's no mention of 1.3 support yet, does it support PTR 1.3 replays now, or not yet?

1.3 is not officially released. It's only on the PTR server.
I've tested it, Sc2gears can open 1.3 PTR replays, but since some unit codes changed, select actions will show you incorrect information. But you can analyze 1.3 replays too.
https://repmastered.icza.net
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
March 21 2011 08:32 GMT
#1365
On March 21 2011 16:57 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 07:12 neo_sporin wrote:
Here is a question that I expect the answer will be something along the lines of "while possible it would take to much work and isn't going to happen" but still an idea

Would it be possible for sc2gears to export data to a server which keeps track of matchups of individual players and the outcome to come up with a rating system of players based on their win/loss and strength of opponents?

Obviously at this time Blizzard isn't interested in letting individual players get an idea of their skill outside of the league breakdown and from what I have seen this program is used by enough people high on the ladder that were it possible we could start getting a good idea of peoples actual skill rating.

Isn't Sc2ranks.com what you're looking for?


No, Sc2ranks simply compiles point listings into 1 database, Im asking about a system that keeps track of who beats who via the autosaved replays and creating a ranking system based on skill and results instead of the gameable point system (or just innaccurate for newer accounts) that most people have agreed doesn't really give an idea of how good someone is.




Think about how the NCAA figures out who goes to March Madness. After the auto entries you have all these other teams, a lot of which have identical or very similar win/loss records, however probably never played eachother. By compiling the data of record, strength of opponent, in common opponent results, you can begin to deduct a ranking system for all parties.


Would it in theory be possible for SC2gears to take an auto saved replay, figure out what two players were involved and who won ( I know this info is available in the replay). Transmit that data to a central server which is able to compile the data and inputs it into system for determining a ranking system for players based on actual results of skill instead of an obscure point system that has a silly bonus pool add-on.
For example, currently BratOK has the 2nd most points in the world thus "appears" to be the 2nd best player in the world via Blizzards system, which I know most people would agree is not true. This system would be base on head to head results and would be actually able to determine a skill for players.

Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 21 2011 11:54 GMT
#1366
On March 21 2011 17:32 neo_sporin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 16:57 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On March 21 2011 07:12 neo_sporin wrote:
Here is a question that I expect the answer will be something along the lines of "while possible it would take to much work and isn't going to happen" but still an idea

Would it be possible for sc2gears to export data to a server which keeps track of matchups of individual players and the outcome to come up with a rating system of players based on their win/loss and strength of opponents?

Obviously at this time Blizzard isn't interested in letting individual players get an idea of their skill outside of the league breakdown and from what I have seen this program is used by enough people high on the ladder that were it possible we could start getting a good idea of peoples actual skill rating.

Isn't Sc2ranks.com what you're looking for?


No, Sc2ranks simply compiles point listings into 1 database, Im asking about a system that keeps track of who beats who via the autosaved replays and creating a ranking system based on skill and results instead of the gameable point system (or just innaccurate for newer accounts) that most people have agreed doesn't really give an idea of how good someone is.




Think about how the NCAA figures out who goes to March Madness. After the auto entries you have all these other teams, a lot of which have identical or very similar win/loss records, however probably never played eachother. By compiling the data of record, strength of opponent, in common opponent results, you can begin to deduct a ranking system for all parties.


Would it in theory be possible for SC2gears to take an auto saved replay, figure out what two players were involved and who won ( I know this info is available in the replay). Transmit that data to a central server which is able to compile the data and inputs it into system for determining a ranking system for players based on actual results of skill instead of an obscure point system that has a silly bonus pool add-on.
For example, currently BratOK has the 2nd most points in the world thus "appears" to be the 2nd best player in the world via Blizzards system, which I know most people would agree is not true. This system would be base on head to head results and would be actually able to determine a skill for players.


So basically what you're asking is to implement Blizzard's internal MMR system?
Yes, it would be a lot of work, and it would be quite inaccurate. Not to mention that not everyone would agree to send all of their replays to the server. Also there would be a problem with the sent replays: MMR changes over time. If someone sends a replay later (not when it was played), MMR would have to be recalculated in history (it affects people of the replay, people who played with/vs those people, and so on, it would extend to the whole database).
https://repmastered.icza.net
-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
March 21 2011 21:01 GMT
#1367
it would be great if there is larva/scv/prob reminder

a bee sound that bee every 25 sec to remind player to macro.
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ioFilip
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania33 Posts
March 23 2011 08:56 GMT
#1368
hey guys,sorry if this question has been put forward before but i can't google it.
so basically i downloaded the latest sc2gears on my desktop macbook and when i cd Desktop/Sc2gears and after I chmod +x Sc2gears-os-x.sh it says No such file or directory..what should i do?
Thanks in advance
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 10:20:17
March 23 2011 09:27 GMT
#1369
nevermind disregard this ><
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Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#1370
On March 23 2011 17:56 ioFilip wrote:
hey guys,sorry if this question has been put forward before but i can't google it.
so basically i downloaded the latest sc2gears on my desktop macbook and when i cd Desktop/Sc2gears and after I chmod +x Sc2gears-os-x.sh it says No such file or directory..what should i do?
Thanks in advance

Did you extract it? When you download it, you download a zip file. You have to extract it.

Once you extracted it, on MAC OS-X you have to make the launcher script runnable. To do that, open a console/terminal, and navigate to the folder where you extracted it to. For example:
cd /user/someone/Desktop/Sc2gears
And make the launcher script runnalbe:
chmod +x Sc2gears-os-x.command

Maybe your problem was you used the wrong file name? It's Sc2gears-os-x.command and not Sc2gears-os-x.sh.
https://repmastered.icza.net
ioFilip
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania33 Posts
March 23 2011 17:04 GMT
#1371
ok you were right,tks for the fast response...but now when i try to run it using ./Sc2gears-os-x.command it says Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file...
My life for Aiur
Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
March 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#1372
Hate to pester you with the same question; but do you plan to add a feature that seperates replays by ladder season?

♥ your work, with the losses being eliminated from my b.net profile, you, sir, are doing the Overminds work!
Tasteless: "Well this strategy is made of balls"--Concerning Fruitdealer Vs. BoXeR
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 23 2011 17:54 GMT
#1373
On March 24 2011 02:04 ioFilip wrote:
ok you were right,tks for the fast response...but now when i try to run it using ./Sc2gears-os-x.command it says Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file...

Sc2gears requires Java 6.0 or newer. That error means you have an older version of Java. Install the newest version.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 23 2011 17:57 GMT
#1374
On March 24 2011 02:41 Crackensan wrote:
Hate to pester you with the same question; but do you plan to add a feature that seperates replays by ladder season?

♥ your work, with the losses being eliminated from my b.net profile, you, sir, are doing the Overminds work!

If you think of adding a "Ladder season" granularity to the charts of the Multi-rep analysis, then yes.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
March 23 2011 17:59 GMT
#1375
On March 24 2011 02:57 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 02:41 Crackensan wrote:
Hate to pester you with the same question; but do you plan to add a feature that seperates replays by ladder season?

♥ your work, with the losses being eliminated from my b.net profile, you, sir, are doing the Overminds work!

If you think of adding a "Ladder season" granularity to the charts of the Multi-rep analysis, then yes.


!!! So there will be a line in the multi-rep analysis seperating ladder seasons? I.E.: All the data I have from 7.27.2010 will still show, but a line (a very obvious line) will be put in that indicates a seperation from Ladder Season 1 and Ladder Season 2?

If so, neat!

Will you eventually add functions to analyze data gained from different ladder seasons in a summary report?

Again, I love your stuff. ♥

Crackensan
Tasteless: "Well this strategy is made of balls"--Concerning Fruitdealer Vs. BoXeR
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
March 23 2011 18:11 GMT
#1376
On March 24 2011 02:59 Crackensan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 02:57 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On March 24 2011 02:41 Crackensan wrote:
Hate to pester you with the same question; but do you plan to add a feature that seperates replays by ladder season?

♥ your work, with the losses being eliminated from my b.net profile, you, sir, are doing the Overminds work!

If you think of adding a "Ladder season" granularity to the charts of the Multi-rep analysis, then yes.


!!! So there will be a line in the multi-rep analysis seperating ladder seasons? I.E.: All the data I have from 7.27.2010 will still show, but a line (a very obvious line) will be put in that indicates a seperation from Ladder Season 1 and Ladder Season 2?

If so, neat!

Will you eventually add functions to analyze data gained from different ladder seasons in a summary report?

Again, I love your stuff. ♥

Crackensan

My first idea is this: on the Development charts you can choose day, week, month, year. I want to add "Ladder season". That way you could see how was your APM, activity, win ratio, race distribution etc. in ladder season 1, in ladder season 2 etc...
https://repmastered.icza.net
Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
March 23 2011 18:15 GMT
#1377
On March 24 2011 03:11 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 02:59 Crackensan wrote:
On March 24 2011 02:57 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On March 24 2011 02:41 Crackensan wrote:
Hate to pester you with the same question; but do you plan to add a feature that seperates replays by ladder season?

♥ your work, with the losses being eliminated from my b.net profile, you, sir, are doing the Overminds work!

If you think of adding a "Ladder season" granularity to the charts of the Multi-rep analysis, then yes.


!!! So there will be a line in the multi-rep analysis seperating ladder seasons? I.E.: All the data I have from 7.27.2010 will still show, but a line (a very obvious line) will be put in that indicates a seperation from Ladder Season 1 and Ladder Season 2?

If so, neat!

Will you eventually add functions to analyze data gained from different ladder seasons in a summary report?

Again, I love your stuff. ♥

Crackensan

My first idea is this: on the Development charts you can choose day, week, month, year. I want to add "Ladder season". That way you could see how was your APM, activity, win ratio, race distribution etc. in ladder season 1, in ladder season 2 etc...


O.o

You are reading my mind for what I was looking to have.

You, sir, win the Internets. ♥ ♥
Tasteless: "Well this strategy is made of balls"--Concerning Fruitdealer Vs. BoXeR
ioFilip
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 19:19:00
March 23 2011 19:11 GMT
#1378
hmm the newest java should be available through software update..it doesnt find any java update..anyway I updated manually from http://support.apple.com/downloads/Java_for_Mac_OS_X_10_5_Update_4 but i still have the same error bad version number in .class file at java.lanng... ...
I restarded my pc also.
(edit) If i java -version in my terminal i get
java version "1.5.0_28" Java (TM) 2 Runtime Environment,Standard edition
My life for Aiur
ioFilip
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania33 Posts
March 23 2011 20:36 GMT
#1379
Working yeaaaaa manage to break it changing java preferences tks guys;great program
My life for Aiur
Gixxasaurus
Profile Joined January 2011
United States17 Posts
March 24 2011 00:01 GMT
#1380
Why is it saving two replays? What am I doing wrong I wonder?

Also, whats the difference between "Replay sources > SC2 auto reps" and "Replay sources > Auto-saved reps"?
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