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Sentient
Profile Joined April 2010
United States437 Posts
May 06 2010 20:50 GMT
#141
I think the Thor cannon upgrade was implemented as a nerf against Ultralisks, now that Zerg might actually build that unit.
Maggeus
Profile Joined April 2010
France277 Posts
May 06 2010 20:50 GMT
#142
Am I the only one who's concerned about the spine crawlers and spore crawlers ?

... In fact, I don't care if I'm the only one. Hmm. This patch seems totally "metagameownage".
But yeah, that's a huge improvement, clearly for the phoenix. Moving shot. MOVING SHOT ? OH DEAR, YES ! Even if I'm a zerg player, that's an improvement we wanted. Fuck yes.

I, for once, don't think Blizzard is on the wrong side. And even if they were, the beta isn't over. Fact is : they are listening to us. A little. Perhaps. Maybe.

Personnally, the nerf from the 250mm cannon is for the zerg. They now won't be able to NP Thor and kill another one easily if the upgrade isn't there. You will now have to reasearch the upgrade if you have a plan, which seems correct in my opinion. What to say about the NP nerf indeed ? This... Is a HUGE blow. Even if the Thor doesn't 2 shots a queen, drop thor will maybe be more and more common. We'll see about that.
Diaspora
Profile Joined April 2010
United States140 Posts
May 06 2010 20:50 GMT
#143
I dont understand why hellions cannot attack move WITH Micro and they gave Phoenix attack move WITHOUT Micro. Ugh...
JreL209
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
May 06 2010 20:50 GMT
#144
On May 07 2010 05:48 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 05:44 Shouryu wrote:

Phoenix move and shoot?

HAHAHAHAHAH-
o wow.. that might be worse then the larva accident xD



Oh god, that's insane,

Also why decrease Thor damage, it's the only real defense versus the super happy void ray rushers in PVT now heh.
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 06 2010 20:50 GMT
#145
Am I missing something? Today is May 06, not April 1st, right?
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Angrim
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany24 Posts
May 06 2010 20:51 GMT
#146
On May 07 2010 05:45 Disastorm wrote:
Has anyone calculated if Thors and Collosus were nerfed or buffed since their dmg was decreased but attack speed was increased?


Thor is a slight buff dps wise (if you ignore the effects of armor etc.) and colossus should have about the same dps if the patch notes are right.
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
May 06 2010 20:51 GMT
#147
wow i think this patch was GREAT! especially the infestor upgrades... I really didn't understand how you didn't ave to research the neural parasite..
www.memoryexpress.com
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 06 2010 20:51 GMT
#148
no, thor dps is exactly same, like colossi
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Infiltrator
Profile Joined February 2010
Montenegro80 Posts
May 06 2010 20:51 GMT
#149
On May 07 2010 05:26 Zaqwert wrote:
I thought carriers and HT/DT got movement speed improvements? Confirm/deny?


yeah.. plz test..
Infiltrator out.
Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
May 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#150
please make muta be able to do the same. more micro. yes
I want to fly
HydroXy
Profile Joined May 2010
United States513 Posts
May 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#151
On May 07 2010 05:50 Maggeus wrote:
Am I the only one who's concerned about the spine crawlers and spore crawlers ?


12 seconds to root is not okay.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#152
On May 07 2010 05:47 HydroXy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 05:44 Shouryu wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31kSA0Guqpo&feature=player_embedded
Phoenix move and shoot?


omfg


rofl. i seriously bursted out in laughter when i saw this.

this patch seems more like a aprils foolpatch then anything.


totally over/missdo the moveshot thing(and only for 1 unit)
totally random changes(250mm cannon?)
totally weird changes to the right units (ultralisk dmg?tank hp?sentry dmg?)

its like they tried to listen to us, do a good patch and halfway just called it "fuckit, just throw random stuff in and see what happens"
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#153
Btw, don't get me wrong, moving shot is great, but not if it only requires 1 APM.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
May 06 2010 20:53 GMT
#154
While Thors technically get a tiny DPS buff vs ground they lose their ability to one shot things like hydras, so really it may end up playing out as a huge nerf.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 20:55:04
May 06 2010 20:53 GMT
#155
On May 07 2010 05:46 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 05:45 Disastorm wrote:
Has anyone calculated if Thors and Collosus were nerfed or buffed since their dmg was decreased but attack speed was increased?


Their overall DPS is identical, but it's effectively a nerf since their shots will be impacted by armor more frequently


you realize that you can upgrade your own attacks right? it's not just the other guy who gets the upgrades. +3 thors if they kept their damage bonus will rip through everything. seriously, if it's still +5 per upgrade with the new fire-rate the damage will be ridiculous
Kal Fighting!
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
May 06 2010 20:53 GMT
#156
On May 07 2010 05:34 red_b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 05:32 Bosu wrote:
Colossus

"-The rate of fire has been improved from 2.2 to 1.65. "

What


collosus got a 25% damage nerf and a 25% attack speed buff.

ie no real change.


No, no real change over time.

A single Colossus can no longer 1-shot Zerglings. This is significant.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 06 2010 20:53 GMT
#157
On May 07 2010 05:48 spinesheath wrote:
Good patch for me.

Bad patch for other zergs I guess - playing a completely different style that everyone else pays off.


Ok, phoenixes CAN do that... Sorry but it has to be done.


what was your style?

kinda like the changes also i think infestor may got overnerfed just a little...

But seriously whats up with these phoenix? That cant be true :D But i guess its a lot of fun until it will get fixed...
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
May 06 2010 20:54 GMT
#158
On May 07 2010 05:44 Coulthard wrote:
wow protoss nerf..finally the game gets playable,although I would like a voidray nerf as well


You don't make any sense? Did you even read the patch notes? It's a protoss buff for gods sake
yummy tomatoes
Holden Caulfield
Profile Joined March 2010
102 Posts
May 06 2010 20:54 GMT
#159
Good thing they took the time to fix a simple problem with replays.... NOT!.
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
May 06 2010 20:55 GMT
#160
Phoenix
-Can now attack while moving.


I literally yelled out WHAT! to the confusion of everyone in my house.
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