EPTplatinum isn't that good? - Page 8
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Zeroes
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:36 Disastorm wrote: Is ladder even important in the first place? I think most console competitive games don't have ladders and they do just fine. I think the most important things are just tournaments and matchmaking. For example, do players in south korea become famous due to their ladder ranking or just due to them playing well? They have leaderboards for console gamers. | ||
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bjwithbraces
United States549 Posts
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djWHEAT
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zomgzergrush
United States923 Posts
I'm number 1 in my division easily and I was only C- iccup. | ||
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Odies
Denmark275 Posts
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/e96lud.png) (Not to scale, obviously) This wide skill gap reduces the feeling of competitiveness within the platinum divisions. The league distribution should keep the skill gap within each division roughly the same; this can be done with a more pyramidal shape. Edit: This is a problem with their system, not just the fact that it's beta. The player pool will grow and people will get better over time, but the same general skill distribution will remain, unless we start hitting skill ceilings, which would be horrible. (SC1 essentially has an infinite skill ceiling.) | ||
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jayboogie
United States9 Posts
On April 30 2010 02:57 Day[9] wrote: Oh wow I forgot half my point, So, I think the division system is completely reasonable right now. I have a friend who, honestly, is completely horrendous at RTS games. He was put into the copper division. However, there, he has great competition! It's amazing how often he messages me excited that he played a really epic, awesome, rewarding game. So, I'm curious if the silver/gold/bronze leaguers have a similar experience too! From what I've heard, it seems to be the case. I'm delighted that there's going to be a pro-division, a division for ze giganerds among us. I feel as if that your buddy holds the general outlook of most lower-ranked players. Even though there are a lot of fraggers that are considered to belong to a "lower rank", competition is more fierce to improve and move up in the ladder in say bronze or specifically silver. When I was in silver, I found the games to be a lot more dynamic and other members of community a lot more social in-game when dealing with strategy and gameplay. Playing in <1500 platinum, however, it seems like there are more people that gimmick build/proxy or critique play and BM when it works or BM when it fails. | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
On April 30 2010 02:24 Thrill wrote: You do realize competition for the spots in platinum will grow harder once the game is actually released? Also - if you're good enough, you're gonna play the best. It's not a random match-finding system where any user from a specific bracket gets paired up with any other user from that same bracket. Except it won't because there will be even more garbage players and blizzard seems to distribute people into leagues evenly, so if anything there will just be more garbage players in platinum, not better. | ||
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Canada1000 Posts
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:50 Tinithor wrote: Except it won't because there will be even more garbage players and blizzard seems to distribute people into leagues evenly, so if anything there will just be more garbage players in platinum, not better. Those garbage players would most likely get bunched up in the Copper to Silver leagues anyway. I am sure Blizzard will raise the bar for Platinum once the game is out. | ||
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Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
I hate the divisions idea, I don't know what purpose it serves other than making shitty but lucky players think they're better than they are. If not zero, I think there should only be like 3 divisions, 10 tops. I think they should have closer mimicked ICCup's ladder system. It works, because when someone is A, you know they're fucking good (unless they abused their way there, but there's admins to catch that) | ||
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Ganondorf
Italy600 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
On April 30 2010 02:03 daywiss wrote: Poll: Is there a problem with the player distribution in leagues? Yes (705) No (121) Dont care (88) Other (8) 922 total votes Your vote: Is there a problem with the player distribution in leagues? *changed the poll since last one sucked I kind of feel like there should be another level above platinum. And no im not talking about invite only "Pro" level, but a public level. It seems like its really easy to get to platinum now and the skill differential between the top platinum players and the lowest players is really high, worthy of a league of their own. I have a friend who has never played rts before, who qualified in copper just a month ago, but now qualified in platinum doing 1 base muta every single game. I basically taught him this strategy because it worked so well in lower levels, but now its beating people in platinum. Another friend of mine qualified in silver after going 3-2. Hes good, but he plays random so hes a bit above average in every race, and he plays maybe a game a day on average. He managed to get up from silver to platinum in about 15 games. Then theres obviously players that are extremely good, play all day, play tournaments, etc and some how they are in the same league as me and my friends. it doesn't make any sense to me. It's the BETA for God's sake. Lets give Blizzard some feedback regarding units, unit composition, timings, cost/effective stuff, maps, things like that. How can u think about being in the right spot at the ladder of a Game in its Beta Testing Process? Doesn't make sense at all. It is safe to say that when SC2 comes out you'll have plenty of time to show up your skills. We already know that there are going to be 2 more Divisions in the ladder. Practice (before Copper) & ProLeague (with invitation only), plus you'll be able to play in other servers (Europe/Asia). Don't worry about your current spot in the ladder. Pretty sure your not even that good  | ||
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semantics
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RushWifDietCoke
United States488 Posts
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
On April 30 2010 04:55 danbel1005 wrote: It's the BETA for God's sake. Lets give Blizzard some feedback regarding units, unit composition, timings, cost/effective stuff, maps, things like that. How can u think about being in the right spot at the ladder of a Game in its Beta Testing Process? Doesn't make sense at all. It is safe to say that when SC2 comes out you'll have plenty of time to show up your skills. We already know that there are going to be 2 more Divisions in the ladder. Practice (before Copper) & ProLeague (with invitation only), plus you'll be able to play in other servers (Europe/Asia). Don't worry about your current spot in the ladder. Pretty sure your not even that good By giving feedback on how the League and laddering system works in BETA, we can help Blizzard make it work better when the game launches. What do you mean it doesn't make sense to be in the right spot in the ladder of a game in beta? It makes perfect sense. Your spot in the ladder should determine how good you are at the beta. It's pretty straight forward. With all of these stupid divisions it's impossible to tell who really deserves to be #1 in a Platinum division and who doesn't. In the grand scheme of things, I probably don't belong even in Platinum league but since the reset I'm at a steady #11 in my division. It's stupid. Players like me shouldn't even be within 20 spots of someone who is a professional RTS gamer like Idra. | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
What we need is a server wide ladder and limited platinum divisions so that you actually have to compete for your slot. | ||
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