EPTBecause the only people i see getting offended by it are usually americans :/.
again, if i'm wrong please correct me.
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nYaLa
Uzbekistan295 Posts
Because the only people i see getting offended by it are usually americans :/. again, if i'm wrong please correct me. | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:51 Hatsu wrote: I completely agree with Destiny. I think Incontrol means well but fails to truly understand the relationship between words and context. Someone please explain to me, what is the context of using a n-word? Because I cannot see any other context apart from the racist context. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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lanaro
16 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:50 MrCon wrote: Haha incontrol defending political correctness. I guess his popularity bot calculator told him that defending this opinion has nothing to lose and a little to gain, so defending this opinion is good. But still, incontrol haha. Personally I don't care about this debate, I have no definitive opinion. But each time incontrol debate about a thing it makes me side for the other side. Because I hate his debating approach, which is the same approach as politician on TV. They don't care about making sense, they just want to win the approval of the listeners. Pure demagogy. Tell me about it, he is so blatantly trying to "score points", same thing when he was discussing with Tyler on Stog about the whole EG masters thing. Loved the fact that when djWheat brought up his indian chief impersonation he started going all, "do as I say, not as I do". What a hypocrite. | ||
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:56 Curu wrote: That's the thing. You don't care about rape because it didn't happen to you. But you care about insults to your family because it actually is applicable to you. Now imagine how offended you would get if someone insulted your family. That's how rape victims would feel (except probably much worse) when people start tossing profanities about rape around. I myself am not even close to perfect (despite trying to correct my habits, I do slip up with using words like "gay" and "rape") but I can recognize it's an actual problem and something that takes a little effort on my part but might make a huge difference to someone else. You're misunderstanding me. I'm fine with people using words related what happened to me and my family. If someone is SPECIFICITY insulting me it does not matter what words he use, I'll get offended. But the WORDS THEMSELVES ARE IN NO WAY OFFENSIVE unless given context. Btw, you misunderstanding me perfectly shows why I should not be having this discussion. I will not reply to the next one lol. Take it in a PM if you like, but I will not get offended. Me and many with me, words are just words. | ||
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bobshoby
Australia13 Posts
i violently disagree with south park's lazy libertarian arguments on this issue, there's no intellectual depth to it. They ignore the importance of a cultural context and tell people to get over it. I'll also note that you didn't answer my question, i would be interested if someone could. | ||
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bistri
Croatia72 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:54 Finrod1 wrote: So dictation of the majority? Just because all people think what you think it's not valid. That's simply the stupidest argument ever made. What it should be? One person changes 3000? By that logic everyone would be offended by everything... | ||
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
You don't see people whose relatives were killed getting offended when you say "kill", even though that's worse than rape. And if you do, that doesn't stop people from saying it all the time. So yeah, some of those words definitely didn't belong. Others did. And as for the whole "self improvement" thing, both sides should be working toward that. Everyone should be toughening themselves up and dealing with the fact that people are going to use words that offend them, but everyone should also be consciously making an effort not to offend people. If that happened, the words wouldn't be used much and they'd have time to sort of "cool off" and not have so much stigma behind them. They just need a break. Great show though. I only caught the end of it, but it was fun. | ||
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:57 Eternalmisfit wrote: Someone please explain to me, what is the context of using a n-word? Because I cannot see any other context apart from the racist context. When two black men call each other niggas as in: "yo whats up my nigga?" then that is a completely different context. I was the black guy who called in to say I have no problem with it in the right context. I am also kind of fed up when people like Geoff try to put words in my mouth about how I should feel when Destiny or anyone else for that matter uses those words. I understand he's trying to turn over a new leaf but tbh I have heard way less offensive things in hours of watching Destiny's stream than I have over the course of a few episodes of SOTG from him. I just get the impression he isn't 100% being sincere when he says all that he does. Again I will temper my words by saying that obviously not all black people will agree with me but I will say that almost all those who participate in a gaming community will. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:54 Raskit wrote: What a fucking car crash of a show >_>. I thought it was pretty good, both sides presented pretty good arguments, challenged my thinking a bit. While I'm kind of annoyed/confused about the ultra PC mentality of a lot of posters I dont think it's really worth continuing the argument here. I mean it's about a couple of words that some people get offended by, just chillax and go do something more worthwhile imo. On May 30 2011 02:57 Eternalmisfit wrote: Someone please explain to me, what is the context of using a n-word? Because I cannot see any other context apart from the racist context. Just a curse word like any other, no intended offensive or racist implications on the internet, hell 99% of the time you don't know who you're talking to. | ||
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
If anything, people should widen their vocabulary beyond those 4-5 ones. I mean, there's over 50,000 words in the English language. Open a fucking dictionary. I've got a lot of respect for iNcontrol right now. And next to none for Destiny. | ||
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JackhammerIV
United Kingdom221 Posts
On May 30 2011 02:57 Eternalmisfit wrote: Someone please explain to me, what is the context of using a n-word? Because I cannot see any other context apart from the racist context. Well... 1. Racist context: Offensive to call someone a nigger/nigga. Considered racist. Rooted in slavery, etc. 2. As an alternative to bro/dude/etc: Usually only acceptable between two African American people. Or in some cases between an African American person and his/her close friend (but with the African American person's prior consent). | ||
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DISHU
United Kingdom348 Posts
if a person doesnt want to be called a name what rigth do you have unless your arrogant . | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
I'm just bummed that i tuned into what i thought was a progaming show, and got a man with a shovel spouting hate speech and talking about context. I think one caller the entire train wreck mentioned the thread. | ||
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BeefAvenger
Canada54 Posts
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Thrill
2599 Posts
There might be those with such disabilities who get bullied, called 'retard' at school etc. who enjoy the relief of going to their computer, turning on some NASL games (or whatever you might be casting) only to hear that offensive word again, this time used as a reference to something stupid/bad. You're doing a good thing man. Was very nice that we didn't have to see that 1950's quote go unanswered, was disappointed in Wheat when he said nothing (chill as well, especially since he didn't want to be "one of the three white guys in a studio" - ok, congratulations chill, you can be the one who was silent, is that really better?). Cheers guys. | ||
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
Any argumentation that happens is pointless and will go on and on forever with each side rehashing the same ideas over and over. | ||
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Destiny
United States280 Posts
On May 30 2011 03:03 DISHU wrote: he seemed so insensitive and as a black person i wont wacth his stream agian either i used to like his stream as well to bad. if a person doesnt want to be called a name what rigth do you have unless your arrogant . I don't want people who get offended by me using a word out of context watching my stream. | ||
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