I think it's actually a bit imba. When attacking a towered up expansion... it only takes 5s for HT with storm to spawn... That's some really impressive response time imo^^

Antimage

Canada1293 Posts

March 09 2010 16:38 GMT

#22

On March 10 2010 01:37 Hammy wrote:

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I think it's actually a bit imba. When attacking a towered up expansion... it only takes 5s for HT with storm to spawn... That's some really impressive response time imo^^

I use warp prism to warp in two HT right away behind someone's mineral line =)

But otherwise, I don't find it too useful as psi storm itself is nerfed.

UnderWorld_Dream

Canada219 Posts

March 09 2010 16:51 GMT

#23

yeah the amulet of HTs is the only one that is worth to do for strategic purpose.

MadLag

Poland82 Posts

March 09 2010 17:00 GMT

#24

sue:
http://sc2betaevolution.blogspot.com/

good read and i really like the idea of casters spawning with less energy while upgrade gives more starting power.

Pufftrees

2449 Posts

March 09 2010 17:05 GMT

#25

Infestors spawn with 75 energy instead of 50 with the research, allowing them instant fungal growth.

Disarray

United States1164 Posts

March 09 2010 21:00 GMT

#26

I use it for infestors sometimes

da_head

Canada3350 Posts

March 09 2010 21:07 GMT

#27

wait, does it upgrade the max capacity or only the energy you start with?

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 09 2010 21:17 GMT

#28

On March 10 2010 06:07 da_head wrote:
wait, does it upgrade the max capacity or only the energy you start with?

only the starting energy like I said on page one and someone else confirmed.

The research is great but like others mentioned it's not very valuable when you only have 1-3 of that caster as support for your army. It cost a bit too much, at least for the infestor anyways. I think the current cost is like 150/150 which is more than the cost of another infestor himself. It should be lowered to 100/100 and I'd probably upgrade it every time.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Infestor
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/High_Templar
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Raven
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Battlecruiser

Nuxar

Canada212 Posts

March 09 2010 22:35 GMT

#29

Hmm yes, my thought up back.

They should only lower cost and maybe research time. The only time I do get is for (ofcourse) a HT or for a Medivac when I really have lots of ressource.

Krikkitone

United States1451 Posts

March 09 2010 23:50 GMT

#30

More significantly, they should have it increase Energy regeneration of the unit (as well as initial starting energy.)

Or perhaps just energy Regeneration... say a +50% energy Regen rate?

this way it would make the units you already made more valuable.

seRapH

United States9756 Posts

March 09 2010 23:56 GMT

#31

honestly, i'd rather have the cap. i realize that most units dont get to it, but when they do, they can triple cast! (like storm, fungal, emp, etc)

julealgon

Brazil120 Posts

March 10 2010 00:09 GMT

#32

I can't believe some of you protoss players are complaining about this, with all the warp-in possibilities both for offense and defense.

Also, I think there is some hidden potential with ghosts using snipes with this upgrade, since the ghost one is 100/100 only.

member1987

141 Posts

March 10 2010 00:14 GMT

#33

useful in some situations, but not in all.
Like everything else its really dependent on the situation and/or strategy.

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

March 10 2010 00:30 GMT

#34

On March 10 2010 08:56 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
honestly, i'd rather have the cap. i realize that most units dont get to it, but when they do, they can triple cast! (like storm, fungal, emp, etc)

not quite. i'm pretty sure storm has a cooldown time now...it's like 3 seconds or something.
i really don't see why storm was nerfed so much. That it needed a nerf is debatable, but I think Blizzard went way overboard with the nerf. You almost never see it being used now...it's that bad T^T

NastyMarine

United States1252 Posts

March 10 2010 00:34 GMT

#35

Well, in my opinion, it's based on your actual micro skill and whether or not you can use the energy to the highest extent. It's all situational of course but usually it's rfesearchable because there are casters with efficient spells.

da_head

Canada3350 Posts

March 10 2010 00:36 GMT

#36

On March 10 2010 06:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:

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so no more triple casting storm? now that's just bullshit ;(

Chen

United States6344 Posts

March 10 2010 00:41 GMT

#37

On March 10 2010 09:36 da_head wrote:

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so no more triple casting storm? now that's just bullshit ;(

is it even feasible to double cast storm now? with a 3 second cooldown and the speed at which shit dies in sc2, the ht A) might not survive long enough to multi-cast, and B) there might not be anything left to storm after 6 seconds of fighting. 6 seconds is actually alot longer than it sounds

Piousflea

United States259 Posts

March 10 2010 01:32 GMT

#38

Instant emp, storm, or fungal growth is AMAZING.

lololol

5198 Posts

March 10 2010 02:02 GMT

#39

On March 10 2010 09:30 Ryuu314 wrote:

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Having the same cooldown as it does in BW is surely a significant nerf.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

March 10 2010 02:34 GMT

#40

It's incredibly useful, especially for units like high templar.

It was worth it in BW for templar and in BW with the upgrade they'd still have to wait like 10 seconds to be able to storm.

Couple that with the fact that you can warp in units immediately and have them have storm available right as they spawn at your expos/wherever and you've got a very useful upgrade.