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On May 28 2010 05:24 zacd wrote:
I'm not worried about Day "selling out" or changing the dailies if he gets sponsored (paid reviews are a bad idea though). If he gets sponsored I bet he'll plug them at the beginning and end of the show and change the replay overlay to an advert. That's it. The rest of the show will stay the same. I can deal with that if it helps Day out.
This - YES !
Payed reviews - NO !
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This show is better than 99% of the crap on television and they all get paid. I don't see why Day9 shouldn't, it's not like any of us are directly paying for it.
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Personally I think Day[9] works WAYYYYY to hard not to get paid.
I don't have cable as I work to much, and Day9 Daily is my entertainment for the week.
I personally will be sending him a monthly PayPal donation.
If every viewer donated even a dollar a month he'd be able to keep doing what he does and maybe even move from Blip.tv to somthing without ADs, like Vimeo or somthing.
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On May 28 2010 04:19 LeX- wrote:![[image loading]](http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6623/kittenkiller.gif)
Oh crap its Sen hide the kittens.
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Is there a PayPal address to make a donation? I'm more than happy to directly contribute to the generator of my entertainment 
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@speedphlux just because no one pays for or respects other people's effort in our shithole of a country it doesn't mean that it should be that way. I really like that day has moved his archives to blip so he has at least some kind of a reward for what he does. Hope sponsors see what the HDH did for iRip and support him and with that all of the comunity.
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On May 27 2010 16:48 Day[9] wrote:
and it's UP bam
![[image loading]](http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3981/woothugsnap.gif)
Thanks for the upload!
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can u get me one too!!! ^^
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Day won´t sell out.He has his heart in the right place but i have to tell you this Shean:
There is nothing wrong with just giving us a paypaladresse!
You don´t need to say anything just post it.
Please =)
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On May 28 2010 05:49 btlyger wrote:Oh crap its Sen hide the kittens.
That gif is priceless. gj
This talk of "selling out" is so ridiculous. This would... ensure the continued delivery of this content which we all value so much. Some of these comments make it sound like day[9] is going to become Day[9] llc.
Edit: If he is reading the thread, a mouse/headphone sponsor might be pretty cool. Thinking about upgrading both soon.
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On May 28 2010 06:56 Clamev wrote:
Day won´t sell out.He has his heart in the right place but i have to tell you this Shean:
There is nothing wrong with just giving us a paypaladresse!
You don´t need to say anything just post it.
Please =)
Scroll up homey 
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=5356170
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Day9 daily is the only show I consistently watch.
Like, I attempt to plan my day to fit the dailies time, same as people do with their favourite TV programs. Anything else, even most tournaments, I'll watch if I'm there and have nothing important to do.
I think the fact that the VODs are up 24 hours later for free but 2-3,000 people show up live anyways speaks to the quality of the show.
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Did people really suggest Day[9] could potentially sell out? Anyone who has seen any of his casts ever knows how passionate he is about SC2/BW.
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Hi Day9!
I watched Daily #121 (the one about silver league), and almost everything you critisized there is invalid for zerg. For example you cant just "build drones all game long". Also buildingsplacement and not getting supply stuck is less important for Z. If youre stuck, you get an overlord and then just pump 10 hyds at once instead of one at a time or w/e. I feel like Zerg Gameplay gets reduced to queen macro, the constant question if its time for more drones or more units now and getting the natural up early and defend it properly against all kind of rushes is everything a Zerg has to do. EVER.
So my question is, would you do the same cast for a Zerg? :p
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On May 28 2010 05:10 speedphlux wrote:I like Day9 Dailies as they are now. Payed reviews will make Day9 look like something else. It simply won't be that full of random errors like #125's ending, which to be honest, in my opinion, is one of the main reasons we all are watching this show. If he starts getting payed to do it, it won't be from his heart as it is now. He'll start be more conservative in his comments. He'll babysit his Silver/Gold payed subscribers. That's quite worrying to me, coz it means that he won't be that great mentor that we all like. If that happens (Day9 becoming a pay-to-review sort of teacher), then if one day the financial situation in my region improves, and I'm able to get a steady income flow, I'd still love to see a game of mine being reviewed. But I'm afraid that he'll be too nice and polite about my play, like tapping me on the shoulder and saying "There's a room to improve here, but you're doing a very good job. Keep it up!" sort of BS. If he reviewed a game of mine just out of kicks nowdays, I'm pretty sure he'll be saying something like "Dude, you're laughable. Just uninstall StarCraft 2. You're wasting your time. Honestly. Go back to playing racing games, coz at least I've heard you're good at those." and I wouldn't mind hearing that at all. Well, of course he wouldn't use such harsh words, even nowdays, but that's simply because he loves his audience the same way we love him. In that way - he is one of us. The same way a Diamond Div player sleeps in all of us and a Silver/Gold Div player sits in the back of Day9's head, doing all of his mistakes when he plays 
You realize, any sort of sponsorship will cause the effects that you listed (he will have to tidy up quite a bit to fit whatever standards his sponsor requires)
If he doesnt need a sponsor to make it worth his while, he can make his show however neat/sloppy he wants. All he has to worry about is the viewer, who would also be his source of funding.
"please donate" is nice, but will not bring in much $ - unlikely enough to be worth it.
Offering a limited number of "donate xx and get a review!" would give him the opportunity to do things his own way, not need to live up to some industry standard or plug some product, and still do every other cast with no sponsor.
Sponsor seems like the worst possible option if someone is worried about preserving the integrity of the show. Obviously this heavily depends on the sponsor, but anybody with the money to burn is going to be a larger company.
I was making this suggestion because everybody would still have the content for free, and whoever wanted a more personal review could fund the show in return for one. Day9 deserves something for his time/skill, so this seemed like the most reasonable way to bring in something significant(donations plz will not bring much) without threatening integrity(sponsor plugs + restrictions).
Obv up to day9 completely. Just making what I think is a helpful suggestion 
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You know the phrase "when pigs can fly"?
well..it's been replaced by "when Day9 sells out"
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@Warri, I disagree completely that its useless for Zerg. Here is why.
On May 28 2010 07:34 Warri wrote:
For example you cant just "build drones all game long".p
That is false. While zerg has to balance between Unit vs Drone production, you ALWAYS want to be making drones. If you watch day9 daily #123 where he reviews Idra's play you'll get a better understand of what exactly I mean. Drones are a unit you never want to stop producing just like he said in the video, but sometimes you have to make units for protection until you get your economy to a place where you can start getting ready for a push.
On May 28 2010 07:34 Warri wrote:
Also buildingsplacement and not getting supply stuck is less important for Z. If youre stuck, you get an overlord and then just pump 10 hyds at once instead of one at a time or w/e
Building placement is still important for zerg, even if its not as much. Points he made like getting your unit ready to morph into the building are important, not to mention where you place your buildings has a huge impact on how you can defend against things. Placing your buildings behind your minerals blocks off reapers from getting back there and killing your drones from that angle, where as placing them between your extractor and hatchery can block off hellions from getting into your mineral line. While it may not be as obvious, building placement is very important for zerg!
As for getting supply blocked, its a huge deal. Reason being is that when you get supply blocked you are more then likely going to be larvae capped (initial 3 from the hatchery) which is going to lower how many hydras you can produce, not to mention slowing those hydras down is not a good idea either. You want to have fluid pumping out of units, not 20 eggs popping at once, and before that letting your money get very high.
On May 28 2010 07:34 Warri wrote:
I feel like Zerg Gameplay gets reduced to queen macro, the constant question if its time for more drones or more units now and getting the natural up early and defend it properly against all kind of rushes is everything a Zerg has to do. EVER.
It sounds like you don't like the idea of zerg play in general. Queens are important, but nothing more then something you have to do every so often. Drone Vs. Unit is a big deal, and a huge diversity zerg has from the other races. The natural up early thing is a build choice, but again check out the #123 video and the most recent #125 video for some different builds that can deal easily with early pressure and still get a safe expansion.
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On May 28 2010 07:34 Warri wrote:
For example you cant just "build drones all game long".
What about IdrA's zerg games? At least, from the replays Day[9] analyzed, IdrA did indeed build drones most of the game, from what I remember. And won handily.
The concept behind being supply blocked also applies to zerg. The concept is the same: time being wasted building an overlord that could have otherwise been spent building units. The wasted time is the key there.
EDIT: Jinx, the guy above me nailed it.
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Yea but theres a difference between just have a proeb/scv queued in every nex/oc or decide if its time for 5 drones or 10 lings/5hyds now everytime you make units. Of course you still have to make drones later n the game, but you dont constantly produce them but make them in big waves(mostly). I have never seen a zerg doing army on 4 larvae and drones out of the other 2 for example.
Also i feel like queen macro is just 10x as hard as chronoboost or mule managament, espescially sine they forbid to do it via portraits.
Well sure you get less larvae overall if you forget an overlord here and there, but in the end you should not have problems spending your money as Z. Most lower Z players (and even higher) struggle to get maximum larvae via queen, which is far more important. And if anything theres always the possibility to build a second main hatch broodwar style!
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