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gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
December 09 2012 22:06 GMT
#81
@ OP
You must have a lot of time in your hands =) Very nice work overall and i agree with everything but the part about the "leave League" option.
Its a thing that can help casuals to get over Ladder anxiety easily. Even myself, who plays over 10 Games each day, get really frustrated and demotivated when i´m deeply in the minus on my Win/Loss ratio and with this option i can simply reset everything.
So it does have a point and the negatives that it makes points useless to judge skill:
Isnt that the case now too?
I can think of no way to make points more meaningless then tey are now. I can easily (and did) achive 1800 points in master by simply only playing when i have bonus pool.

just my 2 cents ^^
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
December 09 2012 22:10 GMT
#82
very well done, agree with a lot of the things that are said in here. hopefully blizz takes a good look at this because it will definitely help them show what i assume most of the community wants
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Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
December 09 2012 22:21 GMT
#83
Very impressive. I do however would like to stress that the default viewing option for custom games should be a random list of "open games waiting for players", just like in WC3. Otherwise the scene dies as just the same few maps gets played over and over.

Blizzard also has to solve the issue with an people stuck on "connecting.." in a map. It means that map can never start, and every time you try to join that map, you end up with the guy stuck on connecting, so basically that map is disabled.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Iamtidal
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
December 09 2012 22:22 GMT
#84
Wow this is nice.
lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
December 09 2012 22:27 GMT
#85
Amazing post, this is how all feedback should be
@lyrlian on twitter! Caster for ESET, WCS and various other events.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
December 09 2012 22:30 GMT
#86
That's some quality beta testing
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 09 2012 22:32 GMT
#87
Well done. They better use detailed reports like these.
dronescout
Profile Joined March 2010
Iceland246 Posts
December 09 2012 22:35 GMT
#88
Even though Blizzard have said in interviews that they browse the forums this amazing feedback needs more spread. We don't want it overlooked.
I will destroy everyone in 2017
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#89
The HotS UI is a major improvement over that terrible, terrible 1.5 UI. But everything is relative.
starleague forever
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#90
Got an additional one btw:
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
December 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#91
On December 10 2012 06:16 Ero-Sennin wrote:
Show nested quote +
This option allows a player to leave their league. This is a very bad feature. There is no legitimate use of this feature. Players with MMR near the boundary of promotion could abuse this feature to make it easier to get promoted. If the goal is to make promotions easier, then do this by increasing the uncertainty threshold of MMR required for promotion.

If instead the goal is to make it easier to change divisions, there is no point in changing divisions. Divisions are already meaningless. Allowing division hopping would make the division rank even more meaningless for absolutely no reason at all, since players could “choose” newer and easier divisions.

Allowing people to leave their league also resets their points to 0 and refunds their entire bonus pool. So this hurts casuals who aren’t aware that using this option requires them to start from scratch.

Moreover, it makes points a worse measure of skill, because the player would have to use up their entire bonus pool again in order for points to correctly measure skill, even if the system already has an accurate MMR for players who were active enough to use up their previous bonus pool. This wouldn’t be an issue if joining a new league after leaving a league retained the player’s previous points and bonus pool, accounting for time elapsed. But then, players could abuse this as a way of hiding their stats and ladder standing by leaving their league after each game.


I'd have to disagree. Now I haven't played HOTS yet so I may be wrong, but if you're right that leaving the league resets points to zero and gives back your bonus pool..... THIS IS GOOD! But I would say that it should only be able to be used once a week.

Say you're in whatever league it doesn't matter, and you're concerned with your wins/losses or points, whatever, and you go on a massive losing streak. You know the kind, where sometimes people want to break their CDs and all that fun stuff. Well guess what. Rage reset, BOOM! Clean slate. Or if they have a different account they can hop on there, but instead of looking at an ugly 15 game losing streak and dropping from top 20 in their division to rank 70, they can /clearstats and start from scratch. This is a good feature to have.

But how will we know who the good people are? Most pros already have a good idea through playing people and through tournament play. Judging skill based solely on ladder hasn't worked yet anywhere, so why try to force it to work now?


I'm not even sure what the OP is mumbling about wiht the leave league feature anyway. It's only something you have when you're in GrandMaster league and don't want to be there for various reasons. I'm not sure how much it is used anyway but you're just put back to Masters if you leave Grandmasters league. You don't have that button in lower leagues at all.
Pokemon Master
niladorus
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece116 Posts
December 09 2012 22:52 GMT
#92
O_O oh boy... how many hours did all the research and comparison procedure took?
isotope8
Profile Joined March 2012
Belgium1 Post
December 09 2012 23:19 GMT
#93
Very nice! Thanks for spending your time on this! I hope they will listen to (at least some of) your suggestions.
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
December 09 2012 23:24 GMT
#94
can u post the link to the b.net forum in the op pls ?

this was a lot of work, i might not agree with everything but still with most
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
December 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#95
On December 10 2012 07:47 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:16 Ero-Sennin wrote:
This option allows a player to leave their league. This is a very bad feature. There is no legitimate use of this feature. Players with MMR near the boundary of promotion could abuse this feature to make it easier to get promoted. If the goal is to make promotions easier, then do this by increasing the uncertainty threshold of MMR required for promotion.

If instead the goal is to make it easier to change divisions, there is no point in changing divisions. Divisions are already meaningless. Allowing division hopping would make the division rank even more meaningless for absolutely no reason at all, since players could “choose” newer and easier divisions.

Allowing people to leave their league also resets their points to 0 and refunds their entire bonus pool. So this hurts casuals who aren’t aware that using this option requires them to start from scratch.

Moreover, it makes points a worse measure of skill, because the player would have to use up their entire bonus pool again in order for points to correctly measure skill, even if the system already has an accurate MMR for players who were active enough to use up their previous bonus pool. This wouldn’t be an issue if joining a new league after leaving a league retained the player’s previous points and bonus pool, accounting for time elapsed. But then, players could abuse this as a way of hiding their stats and ladder standing by leaving their league after each game.


I'd have to disagree. Now I haven't played HOTS yet so I may be wrong, but if you're right that leaving the league resets points to zero and gives back your bonus pool..... THIS IS GOOD! But I would say that it should only be able to be used once a week.

Say you're in whatever league it doesn't matter, and you're concerned with your wins/losses or points, whatever, and you go on a massive losing streak. You know the kind, where sometimes people want to break their CDs and all that fun stuff. Well guess what. Rage reset, BOOM! Clean slate. Or if they have a different account they can hop on there, but instead of looking at an ugly 15 game losing streak and dropping from top 20 in their division to rank 70, they can /clearstats and start from scratch. This is a good feature to have.

But how will we know who the good people are? Most pros already have a good idea through playing people and through tournament play. Judging skill based solely on ladder hasn't worked yet anywhere, so why try to force it to work now?


I'm not even sure what the OP is mumbling about wiht the leave league feature anyway. It's only something you have when you're in GrandMaster league and don't want to be there for various reasons. I'm not sure how much it is used anyway but you're just put back to Masters if you leave Grandmasters league. You don't have that button in lower leagues at all.

Yes, you do. It's there even if you're in Bronze league.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
December 09 2012 23:27 GMT
#96
On December 10 2012 08:24 Special Endrey wrote:
can u post the link to the b.net forum in the op pls ?

this was a lot of work, i might not agree with everything but still with most

It's linked in the first paragraph of the OP.
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
December 09 2012 23:27 GMT
#97
just saw, i am blind, thx
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
December 09 2012 23:35 GMT
#98
On December 10 2012 08:26 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:47 Seiniyta wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:16 Ero-Sennin wrote:
This option allows a player to leave their league. This is a very bad feature. There is no legitimate use of this feature. Players with MMR near the boundary of promotion could abuse this feature to make it easier to get promoted. If the goal is to make promotions easier, then do this by increasing the uncertainty threshold of MMR required for promotion.

If instead the goal is to make it easier to change divisions, there is no point in changing divisions. Divisions are already meaningless. Allowing division hopping would make the division rank even more meaningless for absolutely no reason at all, since players could “choose” newer and easier divisions.

Allowing people to leave their league also resets their points to 0 and refunds their entire bonus pool. So this hurts casuals who aren’t aware that using this option requires them to start from scratch.

Moreover, it makes points a worse measure of skill, because the player would have to use up their entire bonus pool again in order for points to correctly measure skill, even if the system already has an accurate MMR for players who were active enough to use up their previous bonus pool. This wouldn’t be an issue if joining a new league after leaving a league retained the player’s previous points and bonus pool, accounting for time elapsed. But then, players could abuse this as a way of hiding their stats and ladder standing by leaving their league after each game.


I'd have to disagree. Now I haven't played HOTS yet so I may be wrong, but if you're right that leaving the league resets points to zero and gives back your bonus pool..... THIS IS GOOD! But I would say that it should only be able to be used once a week.

Say you're in whatever league it doesn't matter, and you're concerned with your wins/losses or points, whatever, and you go on a massive losing streak. You know the kind, where sometimes people want to break their CDs and all that fun stuff. Well guess what. Rage reset, BOOM! Clean slate. Or if they have a different account they can hop on there, but instead of looking at an ugly 15 game losing streak and dropping from top 20 in their division to rank 70, they can /clearstats and start from scratch. This is a good feature to have.

But how will we know who the good people are? Most pros already have a good idea through playing people and through tournament play. Judging skill based solely on ladder hasn't worked yet anywhere, so why try to force it to work now?


I'm not even sure what the OP is mumbling about wiht the leave league feature anyway. It's only something you have when you're in GrandMaster league and don't want to be there for various reasons. I'm not sure how much it is used anyway but you're just put back to Masters if you leave Grandmasters league. You don't have that button in lower leagues at all.

Yes, you do. It's there even if you're in Bronze league.


Well, my apologies. I looked and it's indeed there. I don't see a problem it being there however.
Pokemon Master
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
December 09 2012 23:45 GMT
#99
could not agree more with removing the joke-decals, always thought it was flashy to begin with, not it glows, and its animated. Really reminds me of ricerrockets with there altezzas
Kryt0s
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany209 Posts
December 09 2012 23:50 GMT
#100
Make sure to post on the Battle.net Forums to push the post and make sure that Blizz reads it! Awesome post btw!
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