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pHD Inaugural HOTS Beta Tournament
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PainUser
United States206 Posts
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PainUser
United States206 Posts
Special Thanks: Aldenx: Main Admin and Stream Technician (if you like what you see get in touch with him) Chris "Rezudox" Burke: All tournament graphics and overlays (same goes for him) Walter from Astro: Excellent gaming peripherals and also eager to work with esports driven projects Kevin Lin from Twitch: Primary supporters and incredibly easy to work with. Community driven mindset and projects And most of all, the excellent players who are participating in this event and showcasing their new skills to everyone. | ||
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happyfunguy00
United States17 Posts
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On September 10 2012 16:05 PainUser wrote: I have no idea what he's talking about....... lol This is cool, hope it goes well and all the players can participate without issue. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
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BadgKat
United States156 Posts
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lost_artz
United States366 Posts
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
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HDstarcraft
United States577 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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HDstarcraft
United States577 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:02 MattBarry wrote: I like the idea of a just for fun beta, but offering prize money for a game that isn't competitively furnished seems...weird The players are putting in time and effort, and we just feel like they should be rewarded for playing at such a high level  Money can't hurt right? | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:10 HDstarcraft wrote: The players are putting in time and effort, and we just feel like they should be rewarded for playing at such a high level Money can't hurt right? Ha, good point. I'll definitely tune in | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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brainox
Germany292 Posts
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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pmp10
3353 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:41 Nosferatos wrote: when is that in CEST? IIRC 6am Wednesday for RO8 and 3am Thursday for semi-finals and finals. Not sure how this is playable or watchable for Europe. | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:02 MattBarry wrote: I like the idea of a just for fun beta, but offering prize money for a game that isn't competitively furnished seems...weird Many would argue that WoL still isnt even finished. I mean, the latest patch was only a month or two ago. Should the pros not have made any money playing WoL for the past couple years? | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
btw, phd is clever | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On September 11 2012 01:02 CaptainCrush wrote: Many would argue that WoL still isnt even finished. I mean, the latest patch was only a month or two ago. Should the pros not have made any money playing WoL for the past couple years? That is absolutely stupid comparison. It's a new beta compared to a 2 years matured full game that got a small change | ||
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pmp10
3353 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:05 MattBarry wrote: That is absolutely stupid comparison. It's a new beta compared to a 2 years matured full game that got a small change Chances are that we will not learn of the most glaring imbalances in HotS until pro-gamers start playing it for money. Ladder games will only reveal so much. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 11 2012 02:01 -_- wrote: wow, first real hots beta tournament. too terrible that two toss. still, i'll watch! btw, phd is clever You do realize it's 8 people? You do realize one race no matter what is going to have 2 right? xD. It's as even as can be from 8 players. I can't wait till open tournaments for hots start | ||
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coolcor
520 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:02 MattBarry wrote: I like the idea of a just for fun beta, but offering prize money for a game that isn't competitively furnished seems...weird No it is traditional. There were WoL beta tournaments including the HDH invitational and Day9's King of the Beta. You also should go tell the dota 2 scene how weird you think they are right now. | ||
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socksoff
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
edit: Go KawaiiRice! | ||
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dHawk
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On September 11 2012 04:36 coolcor wrote: No it is traditional. There were WoL beta tournaments including the HDH invitational and Day9's King of the Beta. You also should go tell the dota 2 scene how weird you think they are right now. except that dota2 is more polished and balanced than most retail games since they basically just ported everything from WC3 dota and are just in the process of adding all the heroes and extra touches. The game itself is basically finished, the reaosn they haven't made it official as a "retail" game is because they want all the little touches in first. | ||
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ULuMuGuLu
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CuteZergling
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Slickpick
United Kingdom21 Posts
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PengWin_SC
Switzerland433 Posts
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
 Sick lineup though, I'll definitely be watching. Should be a lot of fun. | ||
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darthcaesar
United States475 Posts
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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veralynn
Ireland55 Posts
I don't have a Beta Account but I have access to one - Could I participate if that's the case? I have a friend who said I could use his account. Let me know! | ||
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
I actually like most of the Protoss new units, I think they (seem) fairly well thought out and balanced. The problem is the T and Z units simply seem far far stronger :/ | ||
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acgFork
Canada397 Posts
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
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freeshooter
United States477 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
Ro8 Wednesday, Sep 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Ro4 + Finals Wednesday, Sep 12 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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ystao
United States15 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
P.S I forgot about warhounds :D | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
Awesome to see a tournament with decent prize pool popping up so soon Fun player pool so far, can't wait to what will be done with the new units with money on the line. | ||
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UHF
Australia58 Posts
If you are short on players, some of the SEA players are smashing HotS if that is of any interest (watched deth beat Thorzain last night!) Good to see you both back in full swing - hope this is a sign of things for the future! | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
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Prophanity
United States165 Posts
I'll be watching the hell out of this; it'll be interesting to see how the people that have put in the time for the beta, sacrificing WOL play, pull it together. Thanks Pain and HD! | ||
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ClairvoyanceSC2
United States758 Posts
But I think demuslim should take this. | ||
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EliteSK
Korea (South)251 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:10 HDstarcraft wrote: The players are putting in time and effort, and we just feel like they should be rewarded for playing at such a high level Money can't hurt right? Definitely exciting! I was asking last week about who would hold first HotS tourney, so i'm glad the announcement came so quick. Just speculating, because the prize pool is a fair amount, doesn't it give some players the incentive to just stick to tried and true WoL builds in some/potentially many of the games to win? I'm sure the players understand and respect that it is a HotS tourney and play it like one, but that possibility does exist no? Also any rules regarding disabling autosplit/automine at the start of the game or any of the other new options? | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
On September 11 2012 10:19 EliteSK wrote: Definitely exciting! I was asking last week about who would hold first HotS tourney, so i'm glad the announcement came so quick. Just speculating, because the prize pool is a fair amount, doesn't it give some players the incentive to just stick to tried and true WoL builds in some/potentially many of the games to win? I'm sure the players understand and respect that it is a HotS tourney and play it like one, but that possibility does exist no? Also any rules regarding disabling autosplit/automine at the start of the game or any of the other new options? There is also the possibility of someone using a WoL build and just getting smashed by some new HotS build. Especially anything that relies upon early aggression against toss or heavy econ against terran with the new mothership core and the popularity of warhound rushes. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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8mmspikes
United States1704 Posts
can't wait to watch this broski! | ||
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Damonkeyy
United States12 Posts
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Acronysis
872 Posts
Title is funny - when i read the title, i was really confused =P | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
It's ok though, PainUser and HD are practically a marry couple. They bring each other McNuggets and beer! A total bro and a really chill guy. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
I think it's universally agreed that Bo7's can get a little boring, especially when someone has a massive advantage. And the nice small map pool and map veto, though I wish we had better maps to choose from. | ||
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8mmspikes
United States1704 Posts
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cheggelund
Norway131 Posts
I'll be tuning in ..... and go White-Ra! | ||
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VictorVector
United States11 Posts
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hootsushi
Germany3468 Posts
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Jimz1469
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Antylamon
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Kreggar
United States83 Posts
also happens to be at a great time for me because my main homie will be visiting and we'll be having a tasting of the Dogfish Head 120 Min IPA (fresh batch & 4 yr old)!!TY PHD!!! | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
maybe even that ourk guy i see him all the time | ||
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Misanthrope
United States924 Posts
On September 10 2012 16:05 PainUser wrote: Hey guys, have been working tirelessly over the past 4 days to put this together. Have also been playing HotS every waking moment. So excited for the possibilities and strategies we are going to see in this tournament. The amount of meta game shifting I have experienced leads me to believe we are going to see some truly unique playstyles here. This is the first of hopefully more to come, lets make it a special community event. We may have some guest casters on for early rounds in the tournament as well so stay tuned. Special Thanks: Aldenx: Main Admin and Stream Technician (if you like what you see get in touch with him) Chris "Rezudox" Burke: All tournament graphics and overlays (same goes for him) Walter from Astro: Excellent gaming peripherals and also eager to work with esports driven projects Kevin Lin from Twitch: Primary supporters and incredibly easy to work with. Community driven mindset and projects And most of all, the excellent players who are participating in this event and showcasing their new skills to everyone. Painuser best multitasking NA! | ||
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
 ForGG plz. | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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MildSeven
Canada311 Posts
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Cocoba
Canada352 Posts
This is gonna be so awesome! Love the Painuser & HD combo, love HotS (so far), and love the players in the pool! | ||
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Covariance
Canada59 Posts
Kinda wish it was HDH #2, but this is okay. Painuser, be nicer to HD! Remember what Artosis said about co-casters talking to one another; it makes things comfortable for everyone! | ||
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Excelsiorrr
United States4 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
I'm tuning in for sure! | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
Love to see an HD tourney at the start of every expansion! | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Those warhound rushes are getting out of hand. | ||
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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Aulisemia
United States123 Posts
Wish Destiny wasn't involved but eh...guess I'll just have to swap streams for his games. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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Kakaru2
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birchman
Sweden393 Posts
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PainUser
United States206 Posts
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SolarJto
United States260 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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But at least he can claim to have it announced first and he has an even bigger pricepool. Regardless, this will be lots of fun, looking forward to the remaining two players. I hope they will be some true powerhouses, that is the one thing that still lacks the tournament! | ||
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evoli
United States333 Posts
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radurock
United Kingdom106 Posts
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
When Husky and Day[9] pound out their as of yet unannounced mega launch party it'll smash this in the face, but way to get the HotS money flowing early! Edit: ROOTCatz and exROOTDestiny are going to CRUSH! | ||
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
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Cove
United States67 Posts
Also pretty awesome to have such quick turn-around on it, starting today and all. <3 pHD | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On September 11 2012 17:55 Kyhol wrote: oh come on... Don't support this map pool. I realize that I am probably too late in saying this but I think you're limiting the potential awesomeness of the tournament by using the created maps for the beta. Current GSL maps for WOL would provide the best content. except they dont work with HotS units atm. | ||
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DanielSe
Germany38 Posts
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Nvar
Denmark150 Posts
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sycknesS
United States83 Posts
On September 11 2012 00:38 brainox wrote: Very interesting, though i find it the prize money ridiculous for a 2 week old beta. Someone could just play an OP strategy and win 1250$ Since when is more money in eSports a bad thing? This will be an exciting tournament. Hopefully we'll get to see some innovation in strategy within sets... especially the finals which are BO5 | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
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mouz.Wake
Sweden136 Posts
You go HD, excited for this tournament | ||
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CaptainSlow
Malaysia164 Posts
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
Edit: And no, this is not a complaint about balance. | ||
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Vronti
United States111 Posts
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Dreadwolf
Canada220 Posts
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
I'm feelin a win from demuslim here. | ||
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HowardRoark
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Anjellycar
Sweden416 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:39 HowardRoark wrote: 7pm PDT is what in CEST? 2AM. | ||
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
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renkin
France249 Posts
Inviting TLO would be interesting. | ||
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HowardRoark
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HDstarcraft
United States577 Posts
http://challonge.com/phd Working to get this on the main page graphic | ||
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
GoGo KawaiiRice! | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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Voreau
United States192 Posts
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
On September 10 2012 16:05 PainUser wrote: Hey guys, have been working tirelessly over the past 4 days to put this together. Have also been playing HotS every waking moment. So excited for the possibilities and strategies we are going to see in this tournament. The amount of meta game shifting I have experienced leads me to believe we are going to see some truly unique playstyles here. This is the first of hopefully more to come, lets make it a special community event. We may have some guest casters on for early rounds in the tournament as well so stay tuned. Special Thanks: Aldenx: Main Admin and Stream Technician (if you like what you see get in touch with him) Chris "Rezudox" Burke: All tournament graphics and overlays (same goes for him) Walter from Astro: Excellent gaming peripherals and also eager to work with esports driven projects Kevin Lin from Twitch: Primary supporters and incredibly easy to work with. Community driven mindset and projects And most of all, the excellent players who are participating in this event and showcasing their new skills to everyone. 1) You have been working tirelessly for 4 days. So fucking impressive for somebody whos's basically unemployed. Just saying... so many people in and ALSO OUT OF esports work their asses off, in the US, in Europe and everywhere else. Working your ass off is a given these days.... just saying. Not meaning to offend you. 2) I hope you reconsider the idea about guest casters and get them for all/most games. I think the majority of the community really enjoys pro(-co)-casters and it would make a lot of viewers really happy to see this (as much as possible) and it seems like you might have the possibility. I hope I stayed within TL policy, because I tried. Have a good day. User was warned for this post | ||
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Ramiz1989
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
On September 12 2012 01:17 jaydee81 wrote: 1) You have been working tirelessly for 4 days. So fucking impressive for somebody whos's basically unemployed. Just saying... so many people in and ALSO OUT OF esports work their asses off, in the US, in Europe and everywhere else. Working your ass off is a given these days.... just saying. Not meaning to offend you. What is the point in this rant? It's just offensive, he is not bragging or anything, just saying that he put a lot of time in this tournament and hopes it will be a success... Had a bad day? | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On September 12 2012 01:17 jaydee81 wrote: 1) You have been working tirelessly for 4 days. So fucking impressive for somebody whos's basically unemployed. Just saying... so many people in and ALSO OUT OF esports work their asses off, in the US, in Europe and everywhere else. Working your ass off is a given these days.... just saying. Not meaning to offend you. Where the fuck did that come from? | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
Painuser wasn't bragging about the hard work that he was doing but it's still infuriating to see comments like that. If I was in a job that I loved, then I would work my ass off every day - and with HD and Painuser it certainly seems needed. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6991 Posts
looks nice, would definitely watch it if i could good luck & have fun guys | ||
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CrackOfDawN
Germany14 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
GLGL Whitera! | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
Yeah.... wtff | ||
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
Just a hater. Move along. Super stoked for this tournament, can't wait to watch! | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
Edit: Go WhiteRa! | ||
TheEmulator
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Stutters695
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On September 12 2012 00:07 renkin wrote: History repeats... it was about time ! Inviting TLO would be interesting. A thousand times this. When creativity is king I don't think there is a more fun player than TLO | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 12 2012 03:02 Stutters695 wrote: A thousand times this. When creativity is king I don't think there is a more fun player than TLO and BoxeR | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 12 2012 00:07 renkin wrote: History repeats... it was about time ! Inviting TLO would be interesting. A thousand times this. When creativity is king I don't think there is a more fun player than TLO | ||
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MrF
United States320 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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ULuMuGuLu
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Rezudox
207 Posts
On September 12 2012 03:38 ULuMuGuLu wrote: dude there is not fckin countdown or anything else on TL... cant find it on upcoming events and NOBODY knows where it will be streamed or whatever, i cant even plan to watch it ... All of that information is in the OP. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 12 2012 03:38 ULuMuGuLu wrote: dude there is not fckin countdown or anything else on TL... cant find it on upcoming events and NOBODY knows where it will be streamed or whatever, i cant even plan to watch it ... dude, all the info is in the OP. | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On September 12 2012 01:17 jaydee81 wrote: 1) You have been working tirelessly for 4 days. So fucking impressive for somebody whos's basically unemployed. Just saying... so many people in and ALSO OUT OF esports work their asses off, in the US, in Europe and everywhere else. Working your ass off is a given these days.... just saying. Not meaning to offend you. what the fuck? O_O | ||
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Xetrael
Austria41 Posts
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P7GAB
Canada486 Posts
On September 12 2012 01:17 jaydee81 wrote: 1) You have been working tirelessly for 4 days. So fucking impressive for somebody whos's basically unemployed. Just saying... so many people in and ALSO OUT OF esports work their asses off, in the US, in Europe and everywhere else. Working your ass off is a given these days.... just saying. Not meaning to offend you. 2) I hope you reconsider the idea about guest casters and get them for all/most games. I think the majority of the community really enjoys pro(-co)-casters and it would make a lot of viewers really happy to see this (as much as possible) and it seems like you might have the possibility. I hope I stayed within TL policy, because I tried. Have a good day. you sound angry.. maybe your tired of your minimum wage paying job? | ||
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ArcadeR
Germany199 Posts
On September 12 2012 01:17 jaydee81 wrote: 1) You have been working tirelessly for 4 days. So fucking impressive for somebody whos's basically unemployed. Just saying... so many people in and ALSO OUT OF esports work their asses off, in the US, in Europe and everywhere else. Working your ass off is a given these days.... just saying. Not meaning to offend you. 2) I hope you reconsider the idea about guest casters and get them for all/most games. I think the majority of the community really enjoys pro(-co)-casters and it would make a lot of viewers really happy to see this (as much as possible) and it seems like you might have the possibility. I hope I stayed within TL policy, because I tried. Have a good day. Go away angry kid, watching at your posts makes clear that your problem is your very own paycheck, so pls stop insulting ppl that are ok with their life. Thank you for showing us that sad, angry people can use computers... Every time this: "Oh I hope the others fall down and are treated like shit so I can feel better"-bullshit...get a Life >.> btt, really looking forward to this. I hope it will be as entertaining as the early SC2 Beta events ... | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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EmperorKira
United Kingdom107 Posts
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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shadeux
United States13 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
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Rawenkeke
Norway350 Posts
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pmp10
3353 Posts
Except the start time in universal format. Normally that wouldn't be a problem but since it's not listed on the calendar... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
In the middle of the week starting it that late just ... doesn't get many viewers. I'm actually quite interested in watching a HOTS tournament with these high tier players, but I'd need to stay up until like... 8am or so to finish watching all the games, maybe. Even East Coasters, fellow Americans, likely won't be able to watch all of this due to it being on tuesday. I really don't see how it couldn't have been earlier... Seems like the worst possible timeslot for a tournament based in America. | ||
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trancey
United States430 Posts
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shadeux
United States13 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On September 12 2012 06:56 Shikyo wrote: Bad choice on the start time. In the middle of the week starting it that late just ... doesn't get many viewers. I'm actually quite interested in watching a HOTS tournament with these high tier players, but I'd need to stay up until like... 8am or so to finish watching all the games, maybe. Even East Coasters, fellow Americans, likely won't be able to watch all of this due to it being on tuesday. I really don't see how it couldn't have been earlier... Seems like the worst possible timeslot for a tournament based in America. Yeah, I live in the US and this is too late for me to even watch the first game. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Iranon
United States983 Posts
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Mr.Apathetic
Australia11 Posts
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
NO DEAL. | ||
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ULuMuGuLu
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
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DRTnOOber
New Zealand476 Posts
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
Yeah I'll wait for the vods on youtube. Wayy to late for me. | ||
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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sycknesS
United States83 Posts
On September 12 2012 07:13 shadeux wrote: what time does this start? 7pm PACIFIC? so 11pm eastern? 10pm EST.. | ||
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chris5180
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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Ranir
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KnT
Australia243 Posts
Going to be so unproductive because of this ^_^ | ||
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TheSwedishFan
Sweden608 Posts
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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xerathul
Turkey12 Posts
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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Kenthros
United States95 Posts
GOGOGO Destiny | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
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biamila
Canada335 Posts
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Pr0d1gy2k5
Portugal110 Posts
GL to WhiteRa, being late as fuck here in Europe must be a bitch, i can hardly focus as i type xD | ||
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aldennn
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ChiknAdobo
United States208 Posts
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delchuu
Germany166 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
Gogo Destiny! | ||
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HowardRoark
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
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Canada976 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:24 HowardRoark wrote: Who are the last 2 players? Illusion and TT1 if I recall correctly (not completely sure on TT1). | ||
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bokchoi
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On September 12 2012 11:44 Awesomeness wrote: whitera-destiny looks like wol on a shitty map. Yup, lol. These HotS maps have SO MUCH money. Jesus. | ||
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neoghaleon55
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Bagi
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Alex1Sun
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On September 11 2012 09:26 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: I've watched a few of WhiteRA's games on Huskys feed, the poor chump doesn't stand a chance, he's playing awesome and still barely winning. I actually like most of the Protoss new units, I think they (seem) fairly well thought out and balanced. The problem is the T and Z units simply seem far far stronger :/ Don't forget the old units as well. Hydras, Ravens, Battlecruisers, Ultralisks, Reapers have been buffed considerably. Protoss' old units didn't get any buffs. Ah.. screw it, I'll be watching this tourney anyway even if protoss has no chance. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:49 trGKakarot wrote: Tempest, so bad. Posts like this are so dumb. Of course the Tempest is going to be bad against mass roach(at least until they reach critical mass). They're meant to be seige units to deal with a "deathball", not a 200 roach army. .... .... | ||
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WombaT
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On September 12 2012 11:51 PauseBreak wrote: I think the Tempest is doing a pretty good job I like the unit incidentally, just it does appear to need some kind of tweak. Weird series, without much HoTS stuff. Hoping for more novelty in the next game | ||
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trGKakarot
United States129 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:51 Pandain wrote: Posts like this are so dumb. Of course the Tempest is going to be bad against mass roach(at least until they reach critical mass). They're meant to be seige units to deal with a "deathball", not a 200 roach army. .... .... ? I am sorry, but they do such little damage ... he had 7+ Tempests and it still took two shots each (~4 seconds?) to kill an Overlord. Currently they are only something to make when you are saying, "I have won, leave." | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:54 trGKakarot wrote: ? I am sorry, but they do such little damage ... he had 7+ Tempests and it still took two shots each (~4 seconds?) to kill an Overlord. Currently they are only something to make when you are saying, "I have won, leave." They also have 22 range. Deciding which units are best based on how much damage they do is awful to do in a complex game like Starcraft. | ||
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trias_e
United States520 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:54 trGKakarot wrote: ? I am sorry, but they do such little damage ... he had 7+ Tempests and it still took two shots each (~4 seconds?) to kill an Overlord. Currently they are only something to make when you are saying, "I have won, leave." They hard counter mass swarm host/brood lord. That said I don't think they are viable against a decently balanced composition. Maybe making just 3 to harrass, but making more makes your army worthless in engagements. | ||
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RehnFreemark
Italy144 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:56 Pandain wrote: They also have 22 range. Deciding which units are best based on how much damage they do is awful to do in a complex game like Starcraft. They cost 300/300 EACH. | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:53 Wombat_NI wrote: I like the unit incidentally, just it does appear to need some kind of tweak. Weird series, without much HoTS stuff. Hoping for more novelty in the next game I kind of expected a series without a lot of Hots units. I think it will be awhile before the new units are "discovered" and found good roles. Blizzard always has one intention for a unit and the community finds a completely different use! Which is cool. I take everything the is Hots with a grain of salt. Its all going to be changed many times over. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
From the man himself. White-Ra thinks the Mothership Core sucks | ||
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Fig
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
Edit: Also awesome whitera interview is awesome. | ||
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On September 12 2012 11:57 IshinShishi wrote: tempests are really really bad, if you snipe the observers protoss can't do anything with the range which is like their only strength. I don't care if they're bad, but they are really boring for us spectators. Even if they could one-shot a Hatchery it wont make them more esport friendly. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:02 HowardRoark wrote: I don't care if they're bad, but they are really boring for us spectators. Even if they could one-shot a Hatchery it wont make them more esport friendly. never said I liked them, but then again I like colossus and chargealots even less. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:02 HowardRoark wrote: I don't care if they're bad, but they are really boring for us spectators. Even if they could one-shot a Hatchery it wont make them more esport friendly. Its great how everyone seems to think they know exactly what makes a "esports friendly" game. Just great. | ||
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trGKakarot
United States129 Posts
Saying they "hard counter" mass Broodlords is an even sillier statement for a couple reasons; mainly if they have enough money to mass Broodlords and you have enough Tempest to "hard counter" them, then they just remax on Roaches, and insta-win. Again, you would have to have already won to justify making them. | ||
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:53 Fig wrote: LOL Tempests are SO bad. If those were carriers, that game would have been over 10 minutes ago Pretty much nope. They were so much costly and more build time requiring. You need something ridicolous like 6/7 chronnoboosted stargates to pump enogh Carriers to make a considerably impact on the field. Carriers, at least in SC2, are just boring a-move game ending units (the best micro you could do with them is pulling out the weaken ones, just like the Warhound). They have a lot of beautiful sounds and lasers, but it's only that. Tempest IMO desgin wise are just better. They are more tatical. They deal better with late game scenarios. Targete fire is really important to them. Just make 4/5 of them to snipe key unit like infestors and broodlords. Fuck, the only cool thing about carriers are they are cool. Even in BW they were gimmick and they didn't add too much depth in the game. Stop trying to "save" a unit like that. Worst than that are Toss players asking for the removal of the Warpgate/Sentries for more stronger gateway units. Fuck that, you just want an more a-move friendly army instead of a micro requiring one. That's ridiculous. | ||
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Italy144 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:10 Herect wrote: Worst than that are Toss players asking for the removal of the Warpgate/Sentries for more stronger gateway units. Fuck that, you just want an more a-move friendly army instead of a micro requiring one. That's ridiculous. Yeah, not like Warhounds that a-kill everything or swarm hosts that don't even require a-moving cause they kill stuff by just standing still burrowed. Pathetic. | ||
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:13 RehnFreemark wrote: Yeah, not like Warhounds that a-kill everything or swarm hosts that don't even require a-moving cause they kill stuff by just standing still burrowed. Pathetic. Tanks kill stuff by themselves. But you have to positioning/set/etc. You can increase Swarmhost efficiency setting better path to the locusts to reduce AoE. Late/Mid game pure Warhound compositions are just bad, any moire sotisphicated gameplay using forcefields/flanks/chokepoints/position can deal with them. They just don't have a hard counter. And that's great. Hard counters are the worst shit in the game by far. | ||
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:10 Herect wrote: Pretty much nope. They were so much costly and more build time requiring. You need something ridicolous like 6/7 chronnoboosted stargates to pump enogh Carriers to make a considerably impact on the field. Carriers, at least in SC2, are just boring a-move game ending units (the best micro you could do with them is pulling out the weaken ones, just like the Warhound). They have a lot of beautiful sounds and lasers, but it's only that. Tempest IMO desgin wise are just better. They are more tatical. They deal better with late game scenarios. Targete fire is really important to them. Just make 4/5 of them to snipe key unit like infestors and broodlords. Fuck, the only cool thing about carriers are they are cool. Even in BW they were gimmick and they didn't add too much depth in the game. Stop trying to "save" a unit like that. Worst than that are Toss players asking for the removal of the Warpgate/Sentries for more stronger gateway units. Fuck that, you just want an more a-move friendly army instead of a micro requiring one. That's ridiculous. Lol the point was not to say that I want carriers to replace tempests. The point was to illustrate that a unit that Blizzard thinks has no place (the carrier), would have been infinitely more useful than the tempest in that scenario. I know carriers take longer to build than tempests, but that is just because Blizzard never tried to make them viable them. And even with their current stupidly long build time, having 4 carriers there would have been better than the 9 tempests were. The idea of the Tempest is fine, but the way they designed the unit is stupid, because it is not a capital ship. As I have been saying, a unit that merely annoys an opponent and pokes them is not fit to be a capital ship costing 300/300 and 6 supply. Instead they should shrink down the model and make it a normal stargate unit. Then give toss an actual capital ship. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:26 Fig wrote: Lol the point was not to say that I want carriers to replace tempests. The point was to illustrate that a unit that Blizzard thinks has no place (the carrier), would have been infinitely more useful than the tempest in that scenario. I know carriers take longer to build than tempests, but that is just because Blizzard never tried to make them viable them. And even with their current stupidly long build time, having 4 carriers there would have been better than the 9 tempests were. The idea of the Tempest is fine, but the way they designed the unit is stupid, because it is not a capital ship. As I have been saying, a unit that merely annoys an opponent and pokes them is not fit to be a capital ship costing 300/300 and 6 supply. Instead they should shrink down the model and make it a normal stargate unit. Then give toss an actual capital ship. Agreed. The good news is Blizzard's looking into that now apparently so hopefully the next patch will give us something to get excited about. | ||
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:29 TheDougler wrote: Agreed. The good news is Blizzard's looking into that now apparently so hopefully the next patch will give us something to get excited about. +1, Four carriers would have still outdpsed the tempests by quite a bit anyways. Also pretty funny that he claimed they were a gimmick in BW. Totally core and viable unit in late game PvT, guess it is a gimmick. Super interesting micro and unique usage in the other matchups. Yeah no depth lol | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:35 envisioN . wrote: Link to Bracket? http://challonge.com/phd Results so far: + Show Spoiler + WhiteRa 2-0 Destiny Illusion 2-0 Suppy | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:35 envisioN . wrote: Link to Bracket? Here Which reminds me, bit surprised they didn't put a PvT in the RO8. | ||
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:39 Bagi wrote: Here Which reminds me, bit surprised they didn't put a PvT in the RO8. Thank you! | ||
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RehnFreemark
Italy144 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:21 Herect wrote: Tanks kill stuff by themselves. But you have to positioning/set/etc. You can increase Swarmhost efficiency setting better path to the locusts to reduce AoE. Good point, but you're the one saying that it's protoss who want a-move units instead of micro-oriented ones. Seems your suggestion was aimed at the wrong race | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:39 Bagi wrote: Here Which reminds me, bit surprised they didn't put a PvT in the RO8. Have you watched PvT in the current HoTS build? Nah it is always good to get a bit of matchup variation, I'd assume they randomised the brackets | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:49 jimbobicus wrote: So I just want to say first off thanks for hosting this tournament. I've enjoyed the casting so far. However, I'm disappointed in the players. So far haven't seen many use of the HoTS units. I kinda was looking forward to a really dynamic HoTS tournament...and as it stands now (before TT1 and Catz play) it's been pretty lackluster. I don't blame the organization, but the players. This could have been much more interesting. The Beta has only been out for a week now. Most of the new units aren't until late game. It takes time for units to fill and secure a role. I'm not at all disappointed; I'd rather watch this type of game than having players just massing the new units and attacking and hoping to come out on top. I have to retract my previous statement. Catz is just a cheese. Might as well have invited CombatEX to this tournament. | ||
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Canada1047 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:49 jimbobicus wrote: So I just want to say first off thanks for hosting this tournament. I've enjoyed the casting so far. However, I'm disappointed in the players. So far haven't seen many use of the HoTS units. I kinda was looking forward to a really dynamic HoTS tournament...and as it stands now (before TT1 and Catz play) it's been pretty lackluster. I don't blame the organization, but the players. This could have been much more interesting. This is because they want to win. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:49 jimbobicus wrote: So I just want to say first off thanks for hosting this tournament. I've enjoyed the casting so far. However, I'm disappointed in the players. So far haven't seen many use of the HoTS units. I kinda was looking forward to a really dynamic HoTS tournament...and as it stands now (before TT1 and Catz play) it's been pretty lackluster. I don't blame the organization, but the players. This could have been much more interesting. Its still really early in the beta and there's 2000 dollars on the line. These guys wanna win. Anyone using strategies based around the new units are essentially gambling, as the metagame on how to use them correctly just isn't there yet. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
Anyway, that's what beta is for I guess but Toss has a loooooooong way to go. GJ for Catz tho that build was SO SICK. | ||
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TheButtonmen
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
So with Swarm Hosts, are Protoss 2base allins viable anymore? | ||
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:18 Shikyo wrote: Hmmm... So with Swarm Hosts, are Protoss 2base allins viable anymore? I think Protoss isn't viable anymore As hard as 2 base all-inning is, defending a third seems much harder. | ||
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Silver777
United States347 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:18 Shikyo wrote: Hmmm... So with Swarm Hosts, are Protoss 2base allins viable anymore? I am unsure of what you are talking about, there are only 2 races in HOTS atm, Terran and Zerg. | ||
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KholdBloodeD
United States11 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:18 Shikyo wrote: Hmmm... So with Swarm Hosts, are Protoss 2base allins viable anymore? Doesn't look like it...just a few of those swarm hosts/locusts will completely melt the three immortals which pretty much makes the attack useless. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
...I wonder if they could make the core only require gateway tech and make it have to stay within a certain radius of a nexus... or something like that... Hard to say. | ||
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RehnFreemark
Italy144 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:06 TheDougler wrote: I hadn't realized quite how bad protoss is in HoTS till now. How many HP does the mothership core have if it can die to literally four infested terran? FOUR, that's not a lot of infested marines and it died in like five seconds. I noticed the oracle costs a wopping 200 gas which is frankly ridiculous. You could almost get 2 DTs for that much gas. Anyway, that's what beta is for I guess but Toss has a loooooooong way to go. GJ for Catz tho that build was SO SICK. I don't remember the numbers, but yes Mothercore is pretty weak, around what a regular gateway unit would have as hp/shields. Theorically it's not supposed to be a combat unit, but the sad and harsh truth is that it is absolutely useless to have sitting in base (energize is a good ability on paper, but it has nearly zero usefulness in practice since it's only really good to recharge oracle's energy, and oracle is rubbish; mass recall is good but even with that you don't really push in early game as protoss because you don't have any option to do it effectively without going all in. Purify is a half decent attack ability but only in desperate situations, any protoss would rather have a couple of stalkers more to help defend, rather than the mothership core). Catz build was good, but when you get a unit that spawns attacking unit for free, and is burrowed, and frankly doesn't cost as much as zergs would make you believe, it's not hard to make it work. Just remember that in game 1 Catz made that unit work after a failed six pool which should economically crush you... (granted, TT1 made a pretty blatant mistake spending money on stargate and especially on immortals, but then again, the only two things that can work against Swarm Hosts are colossi and HTs and good luck getting to that tech and a production in that situation) | ||
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And as far as Protoss goes, they need to go back to the drawing board, because unless they do some huge buff, there will be no Toss players once hots launches. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:20 meadbert wrote: I think Protoss isn't viable anymore As hard as 2 base all-inning is, defending a third seems much harder. With medivacs are 2base allins vs T viable anymore? Swarm hosts take quite a while to get to, and even when you get them it is not a certain defense. Catz techs fairly aggressively and he barely had any in time. It is possible to bypass them with blink/recall. TT1 recalled to the natural, but if he had managed a recall to the main it would be completely different. Also I imagine colossus would fry them. Everyone agrees that P is a bit broken right now so almost any strat atm seems underwhelming, but 2base allin does definitely seem like it can work. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
Edit: Nevermind I actually thought to check liquipedia. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:22 Wombat_NI wrote: Haha, I know some of us Protoss wanted to make the race a bit more difficult but this is ridiculous guys! The original Mothership Core seemed so much better than the very slow 250 hit point air unit that is now the Mothership Core. The old one could teleport where it was needed, the new one... can hardly move... Pretty sure an Overlord wins in a race... | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:18 Shikyo wrote: Hmmm... So with Swarm Hosts, are Protoss 2base allins viable anymore? TT1s timing seemed off. He was dancing around the map waiting for the Mothership Core to get in position too. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote: Are they playing the whole tournament tonight??? And as far as Protoss goes, they need to go back to the drawing board, because unless they do some huge buff, there will be no Toss players once hots launches. All Round of 8 matches if I recall correctly. But yeah Blizzard dropped the ball with Protoss. The issue to deal with deathball prominence is to give a benefit for Protoss players that can split it up, not to just give units that are forced to be separate from the main army. If splitting your forces gives you better results, good players would adopt it. Considering the amount of strong, strong units the other races have, Protoss still have to deathball up just like in WoL. That said the pros may figure some more streamlined builds and openers at some stage. I'm not confident, but I'm hopeful that something will be in the works | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:28 BronzeKnee wrote: The original Mothership Core seemed so much better than the very slow 250 hit point air unit that is now the Mothership Core. The old one could teleport where it was needed, the new one... can hardly move... Pretty sure an Overlord wins in a race... The old core looked pretty good as a kind of auxillary macro caster/structure, kind of like a weird Protoss Queen. Its abilities are nerfed to the ground at the minute, as Kim said I think because it was made to feel'more of a unit'. They had to tone its defensive cannon down because it was used in big all-ins in close air positions and the likes. | ||
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lorestarcraft
United States1049 Posts
Please invite SHETH!!! | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:56 Secret05 wrote: do they not have the results posted anywhere? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PHD_Inaugural_HotS_Beta_Tournament why not check liquipedia first? ..... | ||
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United States342 Posts
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United States3088 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:35 lorestarcraft wrote: Sheth DESERVES an invite!!!! Please invite SHETH!!! it's much too late rofl maybe for the next one! | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On September 12 2012 14:01 TheDougler wrote: Huh, and Warhounds also haywire missle SCVs, you know, just 'cause. Probes too... and how is Protoss going to stop Warhound drops, seeing as they dominate Stalkers and Sentries, and Zealots are just too slow early and can't deal with the Medivacs. Guess Protoss will just need to open with air units. | ||
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but it's a poor imitation. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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On September 12 2012 14:22 Waxangel wrote: yay banshees, fuck warhounds ^_^ Agree krice tear it up makes me smile! Old school bw unite :D!!!!! | ||
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Australia1286 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
On September 12 2012 14:55 HDstarcraft wrote: Hey guys! Thanks so much for tuning into the first day! We'll see you all tomorrow at 4pm PT A thankyou back at you for some good content. | ||
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
On September 12 2012 04:55 P7GAB wrote: you sound angry.. maybe your tired of your minimum wage paying job? That must be it. I might actually have the chance to move up the chain some time next year and start flipping burgers. It was actually not supposed to come out as angry as it was perceived by some... I just thought I could enlighten some people by pointing out that starting this (or that kind of) post with "been [...] 4 days" is about as unnecessary as starting a job application with "I have read about your job opening in XY newspaper and would like to apply for the job". It's unnecessary, obviously you want to apply for the job, why else would you mention it in the subject of your letter. Of course you had to work to put this tournament together. That's what people do (if they want to persue a job in esports). At some point in school, somebody might mention to you that very frequently, it's not as important what you write, but rather what you don't write. Have a nice day my friend. Cheers, JD | ||
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Xetrael
Austria41 Posts
gogo grandpa-ra !!!! EDIT: Sheth really would have deserved an invite... far more than destiny | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Warhound is pretty strong right now. | ||
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Honner
United Kingdom65 Posts
On September 12 2012 18:40 johanreidel wrote: Anyone know what time they play CET? CET is +9hrs on PDT I think (PDT is GMT-8, CET is GMT+1) So 4pm start PDT should be 1am European time. Hmm, have I got that right? Shame as it was earlier the previous night. Feel free to correct me if someone else knows better! | ||
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Xetrael
Austria41 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:42 chayde wrote: is there an updated bracket posted some place? I missed the games last night but would like to know who played who and how it panned out. just check liquipedia Liquipedia | ||
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Habitus
United Kingdom120 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:30 Honner wrote: CET is +9hrs on PDT I think (PDT is GMT-8, CET is GMT+1) So 4pm start PDT should be 1am European time. Hmm, have I got that right? Shame as it was earlier the previous night. Feel free to correct me if someone else knows better! PDT is GMT -7, but since UK is on BST at moment its -8, not sure if any of the GMT countries stay GMT or if all have daylight saving for summer. So yeah its Midnight for UK and others on daylight saving who are normally GMT and non-daylight saving CET, and 1am for CET who are on daylight saving, and if anyone happens to stay on GMT due to not having daylight saving its 11pm | ||
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RehnFreemark
Italy144 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:30 Honner wrote: CET is +9hrs on PDT I think (PDT is GMT-8, CET is GMT+1) So 4pm start PDT should be 1am European time. Hmm, have I got that right? Shame as it was earlier the previous night. Feel free to correct me if someone else knows better! You've got it right. then again it depends on where in the Eu you are, it's 1am for me, could be midnight for others etc | ||
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Romania803 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
TERRAN CONFIRMED TO BE OP. Hope White-Ra takes it home in the end. | ||
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Crainey
Northern Ireland101 Posts
Destiny and White-Ra, both players who like to experiment and think outside the box. Catz and TT1, team-mates and friends who are a lot of fun and will always show good games. Illusion and Suppy, both young up-coming players (More the latter for Suppy I guess). Although, as you guys noted very early on you put too much cash on the line, it goes without saying that players are just going to stick to what they know instead of using Hots units. It's unfortunate that your timezone is 8 hours behind the UK where I am though, I ended up falling asleep before the Demus game which I was really looking forward to, props to White-Ra for staying up so late to play the guy sounded drained! Good luck for day 2, I'll definitely be watching! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 13 2012 01:54 Mondieu wrote: lol; 1 terran got eliminated already. Clearly the beta is fine atm and warhounds aren't that powerfull. Yeah in a tvt | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:02 Xetrael wrote: haha destiny lost 2-0, guess it's time for him to stop playing once and for all gogo grandpa-ra !!!! EDIT: Sheth really would have deserved an invite... far more than destiny I don't know about how he played, but in the other Hots cup by Take he managed to pass the first day and remain in the top 12. | ||
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K4m4Hl
Austria100 Posts
edit: nevermind, i just went full retard | ||
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Pr0d1gy2k5
Portugal110 Posts
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:15 Herect wrote: Terrans wrecking everything. So nostalgic. There are only 2 terrans in this tournament and they have only played each other so far...? On September 13 2012 07:30 Nosferatos wrote: 30 mins to it starts right? I think so | ||
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UrsusRex
United States85 Posts
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Gunhed
Germany11 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:59 UrsusRex wrote: where can we watch it its not on teamliquid.net right now http://www.twitch.tv/painuser | ||
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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KholdBloodeD
United States11 Posts
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Slago
Canada726 Posts
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
On September 13 2012 08:50 Nosferatos wrote: Warhound/Battle Hellion seems super strong vs Protoss Yep, on Robo, Whitera had nothing that could push back Illusion's army. Robo units are OK, but none of them crush that composition. He really should got some Archons or more sentries. Maybe more Immortals instead of more collossi could be good too. | ||
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Cove
United States67 Posts
Total nostalgia-bomb from the WoL beta tournament with HD. | ||
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jiabung
United States720 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On September 13 2012 09:11 jiabung wrote: CatZ wins with only WoL units lol the matches were so short | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On September 13 2012 09:20 Qikz wrote: Has CatZ done that before in WoL? That build was mental in terms of how effective it was o_O! It's actually quite funny how many terrans will never have turrets in their base once they know you go infestors. Burrowed infestors are just as dangerous as a flock of mutas. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
On September 13 2012 09:59 Jarree wrote: Ra vs Kawaii g1 was by far the most interesting pvt i've seen in ages. What was interesting about it? Missed it myself just tuning in now | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
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GulpyBlinkeyes
United States1449 Posts
On September 13 2012 10:13 lim1017 wrote: braket link? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PHD_Inaugural_HotS_Beta_Tournament | ||
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
On September 13 2012 10:08 Wombat_NI wrote: What was interesting about it? Missed it myself just tuning in now Awesome harass by Ra, several back and forth battles, mothership vortexes, sniped nexai(?). not like WOL pvt where it all ends in one battle. | ||
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CikaZombi
Serbia630 Posts
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SmileZerg
United States543 Posts
Third game somewhat fun because of a couple nukes. Everything else, same old same old. Blizzard needs to fix their ugly artificial pathing (among several other things but that would be a big start). Starbow has completely spoiled me, I can't enjoy regular SC2 anymore. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
And well White-Ra just plays Protoss in a beautiful way. (feels a bit bwish) | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
On September 13 2012 10:42 SmileZerg wrote: That first game was cool purely thanks to DT and Zealot/Warp Prism harrass, but the main deathball vs deathball battles were just as bad as ever. Third game somewhat fun because of a couple nukes. Everything else, same old same old. Blizzard needs to fix their ugly artificial pathing (among several other things but that would be a big start). Starbow has completely spoiled me, I can't enjoy regular SC2 anymore. I've seen that a lot in his PvT games that got uploaded to Youtube. It seems you have to chip away at Terrans all over the place, throw your ball at them and have enough bank to throw another ball at them if necessary. Kind of cool games though here | ||
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(Plum)
United States1 Post
On September 13 2012 10:48 Jarree wrote: Why are they still playing? It says bo3 until grand finals in OP and it's already 2-1 to whitera? They agreed to play a BO 5. | ||
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Xain
Canada94 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
and we have seen alot of use from the useful units. Viper missing, but swarmhost infestor style blocks the viper a bit costwise. Why get an oracle if you can get a speed prism for harass (which unlocks robo tech fully) and well widowmine is owned by its 2 supply cost. Battle hellions really deal with light melee units way to effective though x3. grats illusion. I like the swarmhost even more now, makes the zerg feel the pain when your siege units are grabbed unsieged lol. | ||
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Danzo
2820 Posts
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Louis8k8
Canada285 Posts
Grats to Illusion, Catz and Ra. I can't wait to see some sort of major korean hots tournament. | ||
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