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I am new to this game and using sc2 starter edition.
I need some advice for beating 2 very hard ai. There are threads about beating 1vs1 insane ai with 6 proxy rax bunker rush but i couldn't do it with 2 ai. So i decided to turtle at base. After 15 min i started to mess up. At 40min i got bored i decided to push but got sandwitched. Computer had about 20000 minaral at the end.
I would appreciate if u can send some tips/video/replay about this. Thx.
Starter edition cant open early version replays and only Shattered Temple, Discord IV, High Orbit can be played.
Edit : With Terran vs 2 very hard terran ai
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Ok I just tried 1v2 very hard random AI and win at first try.
On Discord IV playing Protoss.
http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)goodistar_vs_(P)Player 3_(Z)Player 4/16845
Basically, you wall your base with cannons, expand quickly as you have a second base in your base and go mass void rays mothership with full upgrades.
You can get a third base by cannon walling in the same fashion. Then when you get close to max pop you wait for them to attack your cannons destroy them with your cannons and army then crush their bases.
HF
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On December 24 2011 02:14 goodistar wrote:Ok I just tried 1v2 very hard random AI and win at first try. On Discord IV playing Protoss. http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)goodistar_vs_(P)Player 3_(Z)Player 4/16845Basically, you wall your base with cannons, expand quickly as you have a second base in your base and go mass void rays mothership with full upgrades. You can get a third base by cannon walling in the same fashion. Then when you get close to max pop you wait for them to attack your cannons destroy them with your cannons and army then crush their bases. HF
...he's asking for help as terran -_-
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@goodistar: Thx for the replay. It gives the general idea but i need terran vs 2 terran very hard ai.
I forgot to rewrite it, editing now.
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ok i'll try to find a way
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Build bunkers to survive the first timing push then move in with a strong timing of your own and destroy one of them the rest should be easy
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ok done.
1v2 very hard Terran AI as Terran on Discord IV
http://sc2rep.com/replays/(T)goodistar_vs_(T)Player 3_(T)Player 4/16852
You go gas first then proxy 2 rax Reapers.
The strategy consist in attacking when AI goes out with their army so you need both xelnaga towers.
First attack when you have 3 reapers.
You win by destructing all AI buildings (focus scvs then cc, usually they don't have enough money to rebuild one so they wont build any more buildings that what they have left)
Never fight their army.
Don't forget reapers speed
I made 2 bunkers in my base but useless cause they didn't attack me a single time.
HF
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Thx alot. I just beat them. But it wasnt as quick as your replay.
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I did this without using any proxy cheese, simply by beating the first attack wave. Even though you've obviously finished i will point out the way I did it for anyone else who find this and is struggling.
I basically opened gas first, 1-1-1 style build except i emphasised marines and tanks at the start. As long as you have atleast 2 tanks and a bunker up you can hold literally anything they throw at you, I was attacked at 6:20 with a roach/ling and marine/rauder composition and it just melted under the tanks, a couple of SCVs to repair that bunker and you're sweet (keep the tanks back far enough so they can hit just outside the ramp). From there you basically take map control (the Xel Naga towers) and time your attack when their army is pushing. Don't leave it too late or the AI might realise that it's worth it to kill your base instead (it happens on VH). You can literally erase 1 AI's entire tech and economy in the time they have to turn around from their push and defend. Sorry I don't have a replay but i did this 3 reformats ago (more than a year) and don't keep AI replays :D Hope this somehow helps someone in the future
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On December 24 2011 03:28 TehTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 02:14 goodistar wrote:Ok I just tried 1v2 very hard random AI and win at first try. On Discord IV playing Protoss. http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)goodistar_vs_(P)Player 3_(Z)Player 4/16845Basically, you wall your base with cannons, expand quickly as you have a second base in your base and go mass void rays mothership with full upgrades. You can get a third base by cannon walling in the same fashion. Then when you get close to max pop you wait for them to attack your cannons destroy them with your cannons and army then crush their bases. HF ...he's asking for help as terran -_-
Why not do it as toss if it's easier? It's probably for the achievement, which doesn't need to be done with a specific race.
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I am new to this game and using sc2 starter edition.
The starter edition only lets you play as terran.
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Cloaked banshees. Profit.
Twilight Fortress is a good map for vs 2AI.
As long as you have enough tanks and use vikings to control the skies after doing initial damage with banshees, the computer should never really be able to kill you.
If you're having a hard time doing it on Twilight Fortress, Outpost might be a better map, since the distance from your main base to your ramp is shorter, making for easier repair. One other thing to remember is that the computer will ALWAYS do a 2 barracks delayed push with marine marauder, and past that they will get tanks and maybe medivacs. With a pure mech army, you should be able to expand pretty much freely, just be careful to not use your entire army when you do the final push. GL
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I tried it 3 times on Shattered Temple.
lost in the T v ZP
lost in the T v PP
won in the T v ZT
immortals and zealots were too strong for the strat i was using.
turtle with tanks and do drop harass. the computer won't harass your base so just mass tanks to defend while wittling down their econ with drops
at one point they will try to all-in. once you defend that off. go for the kill one guy and do a drop on the other guy.
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On December 26 2011 04:26 Tabashi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 03:28 TehTemplar wrote:On December 24 2011 02:14 goodistar wrote:Ok I just tried 1v2 very hard random AI and win at first try. On Discord IV playing Protoss. http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)goodistar_vs_(P)Player 3_(Z)Player 4/16845Basically, you wall your base with cannons, expand quickly as you have a second base in your base and go mass void rays mothership with full upgrades. You can get a third base by cannon walling in the same fashion. Then when you get close to max pop you wait for them to attack your cannons destroy them with your cannons and army then crush their bases. HF ...he's asking for help as terran -_- Why not do it as toss if it's easier? It's probably for the achievement, which doesn't need to be done with a specific race.
He's using starter edition.
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On December 27 2011 11:34 LastDance wrote:
the computer won't harass your base
Actually it harrasts.
In one game it attacked with 2 banshees without cloak at first 10min.
At mid game it frequantly drops and at late game it use raven torrent.
Also 1 time it sieged tanks under my base, get vision, destroyed some buildings and run away.
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I had success with a planetary fortress. 14cc, => double refinery => engineering bay => build upgrade planetary at natural. After that build another planetary to guard your natural and then build (rush tanks first) tank/viking/turret. keep expanding with planetary, or deny expansions and eventually the computers will starve out. It's also better on a map with an island, like Lost Temple.
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