On October 14 2010 02:11 tofucake wrote: Slightly off topic, but UED was not going to be a 4th race. The Valkyrie was a unit cut from StarCraft Alpha which was readded in Brood War. Also, I highly doubt you're a rep.
The UED was in fact going to be a fourth race in the starcraft brood war expansion but was discontinued due to time consumption. I'll link you once I recover the source.
Thanks for going out of your way to attempt to prove me wrong and call me out of my job title.
And the Valkyrie was never a physical unit that was created in StarCraft alpha. Only a "damage counter portrait" of the valkyrie was created not an actual unit.
If you can prove me wrong, please link me to an image of the unit.
None of your other posts every mention that you are a blizz rep
What is in it for the UED to return to the sector? Originally it was to turn the overmind into a weapon for Earth, but that plan failed. Earth is a very long way away, so is it safe to assume that they have the tech, resources and real estate that they won't be expanding to the Dominion sector in a hurry? Then there is the possibility of revenge, but that would hardly be a reasonable thing to do when they have an empire to run and their own domestic conflicts.
On October 14 2010 02:11 tofucake wrote: Slightly off topic, but UED was not going to be a 4th race. The Valkyrie was a unit cut from StarCraft Alpha which was readded in Brood War. Also, I highly doubt you're a rep.
The UED was in fact going to be a fourth race in the starcraft brood war expansion but was discontinued due to time consumption. I'll link you once I recover the source.
Thanks for going out of your way to attempt to prove me wrong and call me out of my job title.
And the Valkyrie was never a physical unit that was created in StarCraft alpha. Only a "damage counter portrait" of the valkyrie was created not an actual unit.
If you can prove me wrong, please link me to an image of the unit.
None of your other posts every mention that you are a blizz rep
Because, frankly speaking, if the UED were to send a full fleet to the sector, there would be not much of a game to be played, would it? Mengsk, let alone Raynor's Raiders, would look like a pipsqueak next to the UED (again). The Zerg, having been defeated by a rag-tag crash-landing bunch of dominion forces as well as the superhuman Raynor & Co (and you!), would be the equivalent of pet poodles if the UED were to visit Char for a tour.
Imagine this - an expeditionary force had totally crushed the dominion and usurped control over the Zerg. If the UED were to gear up for full-fledged war in the interbellum, they would dominate the storyline. Perhaps they will appear when the galaxy is on the brink of destruction as the 3 races unite to defeat the hybrids. Remember, the dominion should be under the control of the dark voice.
Had the UED fleet of BW always meant to be only a very small amount of the whole military force? Alexi says to Duke "We represent the "combined might of the UED", and I'm not sure, but I think something was said at the BW epilogue about the UED been crushed or something like that. So were they a gigantically large army at the time that Broodwar had been developed, or did Blizzard just make it up afterwards?
Updated the OP with this new question which onl occurred to me just now.
On October 14 2010 02:11 tofucake wrote: Slightly off topic, but UED was not going to be a 4th race. The Valkyrie was a unit cut from StarCraft Alpha which was readded in Brood War. Also, I highly doubt you're a rep.
The UED was in fact going to be a fourth race in the starcraft brood war expansion but was discontinued due to time consumption. I'll link you once I recover the source.
Thanks for going out of your way to attempt to prove me wrong and call me out of my job title.
And the Valkyrie was never a physical unit that was created in StarCraft alpha. Only a "damage counter portrait" of the valkyrie was created not an actual unit.
If you can prove me wrong, please link me to an image of the unit.
None of your other posts every mention that you are a blizz rep
Amazing. The blog about his "problem" was just disgusting btw.
On topic: the UED was a bad idea imo. They didn't need it and it kind of sucked anyway.
You are trying to find coherence in a video game scenario, that won't happen. Most videogame with sequels are basically uncoherent mess when it comes to the storyline. Remember the warcraft serie, I mean, Azeroth was supposed to be a kingdom, then it disappeared and turned out to be the name of the whole planet! Or Throne of Bhaal in Baldut's Gate, when "revelation" in the pocketplane go against the entire plot of the first episode.
Even a movie like Star Wars where the storyline is supposed to be the work of professional artists and not random fantasy script writer is a complete mess:
(watch this if you have spare time, that's the most amazing thing ever.)
Just accept that it's not perfectly done, that it's illogical sometimes, and that's it. It's very hard to make a really coherent sequel, their writers are not especially amazing, and they don't really care. And probably they even changed their team at least partially.
its just not possible that earth would send most of its military to a doggone location zillions of light years away from home and abandon self-defense in the process. besides, what does an expeditionary fleet tell you about it?
On October 17 2010 14:09 shadymmj wrote: its just not possible that earth would send most of its military to a doggone location zillions of light years away from home and abandon self-defense in the process. besides, what does an expeditionary fleet tell you about it?
From the dictionary.
an excursion, journey, or voyage made for some specific purpose, as of war or exploration.
Says that a part of the military stayed at home. I'm just curious as to how much. The nature of the objective and Alexis comment on "the combined might of the UED", suggests that the UED gave the Zerg everything that they could spare. Fact that they're the "united" earth directorate could mean that Earth is more or less, well, united. So putting two and two together suggests that the invasion fleet was not half assed. But I'm only commenting on what I noticed in BW, I don't know if I'd take the word of a wiki site that anyone can edit over what I saw in the game.
Says that a part of the military stayed at home. I'm just curious as to how much. The nature of the objective and Alexis comment on "the combined might of the UED", suggests that the UED gave the Zerg everything that they could spare. Fact that they're the "united" earth directorate could mean that Earth is more or less, well, united. So putting two and two together suggests that the invasion fleet was not half assed. But I'm only commenting on what I noticed in BW, I don't know if I'd take the word of a wiki site that anyone can edit over what I saw in the game.
"The combined might of the UED" could very easily refer to the fact that it's the combined might of the various countries on Earth that have formed a UN-like group which is called the UED. It doesn't hint at the amount of resources used in any way.
The Future of the UED
The failure of the offensive and the loss of the expeditionary force was a temporary setback for the United Earth Directorate, the expeditionary force being but only a small fraction of the UED's total strength.[15] The United Earth Directorate remains active in its base of operation on Earth, but it lost interest in the Koprulu Sector, although it hopes to do more in the future.[16]
Here's a quote from the Starcraft Wiki, the source is Chris Metzen at a Blizzcon lore panel in '07. Pretty conclusive statement.
On October 19 2010 10:29 Billy_ wrote: So it was not originally intended then, but one of Chris Metzins infamous revisions.
That's what I wanted to know.
$20 says that the new Blizz IP is called Universe of Starcraft, and that it will be UED vs Hybrids.
Blizzard said quite a long time ago that the new IP isn't anything in the Starcraft, Warcraft, or Diablo universes.
Oh, and absolutely nothing in the UED's story suggests that the fact that the Expeditionary Fleet was only a tiny part of the UED's army was a retcon. You're just claiming it is based on your own definitions/interpretations.
On October 14 2010 07:05 LBo wrote: What bothers me is the intro of Brood War where we can see a colony under Zerg attack with the UED monitoring it. It has been stated that they let a Dominion world overrun by Zerg on purpose just for their studies, but how did they do that? Do they have the ability to lure Zerg to a certain goal (without the Confederate Psi Emitter technology) or did they just search for a random colony that was already under attack?
I believe they just picked up a random distress beacon and went and checked it out. That's why the marine in the intro was asking the firebat where the help was, and why it seemed like the UED had come to help.
It's possible that the UED didn't even know about the destruction of the First Overmind in the first place, so they didn't even know it was the second Overmind they were controlling.
EPT
