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Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
November 18 2010 14:06 GMT
#21
Blizzard will fix this and correct the issue (if they consider it as bug)

Mail vom Blizz support
Thank you for your reply, and sorry for the long wait. We've received several reports about this type of achievement issue, a bug report has been forwarded to our StarCraft II team for investigation. While we cannot guarantee a direct response, we can assure you that this issue will be investigated thoroughly.

Should the issue turn out to be a bug; all effort will be taken to correct this issue as soon as possible.

I hope you continue to enjoy the game, but if you have any further issues, you know where to find us!
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
November 18 2010 17:54 GMT
#22
You can get your 3v3 insane achievements using my burning tide technique. Look at my post "Get every single outmatched ahievement w/o skill".
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 17:11:25
February 03 2011 16:16 GMT
#23
Both 3v3 AI mix achievements in one go, done the banshee way: link.

Please note I'm not a good player, you will see typical leaks of the lower leagues, as well as somewhat passive play. Also, it most probably doesn't work every time you try. In this game, I had a bit of luck because my two AI allies seemed to be successful in rushing one of the opponents. They almost killed his nexus before I joined the party.

The 4v4 can be cannon-rushed in PvP on Megaton but doesn't work so great with PvT. As for 4v4 TvT, my computer is too weak to handle that.

I'd be grateful for some hints on how to do XvP, XvZ, TvX, ZvX. Not the necessarily in one go, as it's probably more economical to do it the easiest way for each, instead of retrying over and over to do it in a single attempt.

OT: Getting the Romp achievements is sooo tedious.

Edit: PvAnything can be done by pylon "harass", a technique I found in Google from a gentleman called Pallytime. You basically build pylons in some spot between enemy bases on Megaton and cancel them, delaying the enemy as workers come to destroy the thing. To assist your allies, you either start building a normal base at some point or you start laying down cannons in useful spots, e.g. by placing pylons where your allies are attacking. Then cannons. All three races of enemies can be defeated this way, I guess, though Protoss enemies can be cannon-rushed the regular way.

Now I need to find a way to do the Zerg and Terran Kin vs AI, which is gonna be hard, I suppose, but I can do it vs any mix, which could make it easier.

And it's bugged, you aren't getting lower difficulties of the 4 vs AI Kin achievements for completing insane. I suppose very hard can still be tiresome and hard might not always be a cakewalk, as your allies must be the same difficulty AI as the enemy, of course. Let's see.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
February 03 2011 19:25 GMT
#24
Just outmacroed them. T and P AI dont like to expand and they tech rather slowly. I did mirrors with P and Z. Instead of T i went P just because i suck. The biggest issue was that i get 1fps in lategame battles with zergs ^^
Osmeus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States40 Posts
February 03 2011 19:29 GMT
#25
Simply get all you team mates to cannon rush the AI. But one of the hardest problems for it is that some player go really far from their mineral like. Try to be as close as possible to the mineral line and the A.I's base. If you yo do it from far away, it may take more than 10-15 minutes. If you do it my way you will finish it around 5-7 minutes.
Flash, you're the greatest, behold! the savior of the terran race. tananananaanann
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
February 03 2011 23:43 GMT
#26
Yeah, I spent this evening doing the 4v4 achievements in insane and very hard. Finally did them. For Insane, I think I did PvP, PvT, ZvZ and TvR. For Very Hard, I went PvP, TvT (I think), ZvZ unless I'm getting it wrong now. Can't recall much of anything at the end of this "wonderful" evening.

T and Z games got me down to like 1 fps at some points too. It was awful. Zerg is not my race, so I just pulled off some spine crawler harassment on the mineral line of one of the enemies, droned hard, expanded, added queens, teched, went muta (Very Hard) and hydras (Insane). It can be pulled off with some good harass and a cleverer choice of targets to strike than the AI allies' (they go for the army instead of hitting all the economy they can while the enemy is regrouping). So at some points I'd leave my allies to fight the usual battles on the ramps and go kill the expansions.

Terran, which is my race, was even harder. I couldn't pull off TvP, didn't want mirror... finally succeeded vs all random enemies when I could go banshees.

By the way, during some of the failed attempts, I managed to take one enemy away or almost completely away during harass or early in game and still lose in the end. ;P

Anyway, this was sick. I think human enemies in ladder aren't going to make much impression on me after all this Insane AI all around the map.

Now only have to finish off the Romp. I'm halfway there with Protoss v. Insane, will probably cannon rush it to the end (since I can't bunker rush or sixpool Insane AI successfully) and then just solo the random hundred vs. Medium while listening to the music or talking on Skype.

...And the Hard 4v4 achievements, thanks to the bug. But Hard should be piece of cake after all this (easy cannon rush, comfortable macro zerg and doable banshees, I guess).

And I don't care for normal game (without cheese) because of the way allies operate.

On February 04 2011 04:29 Osmeus wrote:
Simply get all you team mates to cannon rush the AI. But one of the hardest problems for it is that some player go really far from their mineral like. Try to be as close as possible to the mineral line and the A.I's base. If you yo do it from far away, it may take more than 10-15 minutes. If you do it my way you will finish it around 5-7 minutes.


You must be talking about the Cooperative achievements. There's no way to get your AI allies to cannon rush the other AI. Now that would be a sight to behold.

I suppose for Co-op, you can go cannon rush for PvP, sixpool for ZvT (everybody strikes his own terran separately but at the exact same time unless terrans gang up), marines/hellions/late thors for TvZ (or just one dood rides around with blue flame hellions killing off drones on all AI enemies while the rest are fighting the AI armies) and done.

Coop may be a pain in terms of Romp, if you go with random people...
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
February 04 2011 08:37 GMT
#27
I think i got sth nice: I play T and the other team only Z. My allies are random. Z insane AI often playes mass roaches so i just go mass marouder withs upgrades and MedV. My allies block (perhabs they should be Z or P because T cannot block) and my rouder shoot the roaches away.

I won at first try with that strat, but no replay anymore sry.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
February 04 2011 08:49 GMT
#28
As Terran, load up and fly to one of the islands. Do this on the Inferno map (I think thats the one) with the two islands which each have two expansions on each island.

As Protoss turtle until robo tech and a warp prism then take the islands.

Make doublerows of cannons or turrets on the side of the island facing the rest of the map, and tech to BCs or carriers respectively.

If you want to do it without this, just turtle at your base with cannons. AI is remarkably stupid when it comes to cannons and also when trying to drop over the top of cannons...they'll only send in one or two dropships at a time.
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