EPTRush one AI/Move to an island and turtle?
4v4/3v3 Insane AI
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roninmedia
8 Posts
Rush one AI/Move to an island and turtle? | ||
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Grend
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
zerg u wanna do ZvZ and kill 1 early on terran i did a straight banshee tech in 4v4 and it was rather easy, 3v3 u can try to kill1 early but i again did the banshee rush and it was rather easy. | ||
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pirsq
Australia145 Posts
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Erectum
France194 Posts
It s more changeling but still quite easy | ||
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Iatrik
Germany159 Posts
On September 11 2010 09:27 Iatrik wrote: 3 Insane CPU + You vs. 4 Insane CPU? Just tech hardcore to broodlords and corruptor. "Ask" your teammates to give you minerals and gas. You´ll get so much from them. (Ask 10x 100/100 instead of 1x 1000/1000 for example) Autowin.  Use similar units at other races | ||
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indiehjaerta
Sweden93 Posts
On September 14 2010 16:22 pirsq wrote: Protoss you can cannon rush Megaton and win 1v4, so having 3 allies is redundant. Zerg/Terran you fast tech to mutalisks or banshees. Keep all the expos down and your teammates will steamroll them. Did you do 1v4 on insane rally? I struggled a lot with it until I changed to Very hard which the achievement was for. On Insane they would gather a really scary force the other 2 to take me out. I did the 3v3 one yeterday also and I'm not the best player but still managed to cannon rush the P and after that I just supported while tthe AI finished the Z and T and got plenty of achievements in that 15 minute space. Going to try the 4v4 later tonight but I guess it's just a matetr of okey played cheese. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3981 Posts
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Nayru
United States87 Posts
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ggb667
United States16 Posts
3v3 terran is proving to be hard formme my allies keep dying. | ||
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Nayru
United States87 Posts
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iMAniaC
Norway703 Posts
Choose the map Megaton. Send a worker to the other team's fortress. Then, in the middle of the fortress, build a pylon or a supply depot. All the four AI's will go completely bonkers and send almost all their workers to attack your pylon or supply depot. Then you cancel it. Their workers run back. Then you build another one and the AI will go bonkers again. Then you keep making their workers run back and forth until they slowly and steadily get a marine, zealot or roach that will kill off your worker. Of course, by then, your allies have gathered somewhat of a formidable force and will steamroll your enemies without your help. It won't work too well if you're zerg, though. It could, but you'd have to build a hatchery instead, which is more of a hassle. I did zerg by teching to mutas and harassing the AI's again, letting my allies do the actual killing. And ironically, it seems to work better against Insane AI's than against Very Hard... | ||
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On September 14 2010 17:32 Erectum wrote: You can also win without cheese ... It s more changeling but still quite easy ZZZZvZZZZ Just tech straight to muta, ask your AI partners for gas. Ask for 100 at a time, they'll fork over pretty much infinite amounts since they roach like crazy. Just harass mineral lines back and forth from each base, and your allies will roll them with ease. | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On November 15 2010 11:19 29 fps wrote: what do you type to ask for gas/minerals? Top right corner, click on the resource tab | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
i finished the 4v4 kin vs insane ai and 4v4 vs insane ai kin, but it didnt give me the very hard ones. so i had to play it again on very hard mode. not very difficult, just that id rather get all of them at once. | ||
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Comadevil
Germany214 Posts
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MrArarat
Argentina132 Posts
On November 18 2010 20:53 Comadevil wrote: Had the same issue. Blizzard support forwarded this issue already to the Starcraft 2 team for solving this So, should i continue doing the insane matches, in order that when they fix this, it will sync with the rest of the difficulty settings? or will I have to do them all over again? | ||
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
On November 18 2010 22:16 MrArarat wrote: So, should i continue doing the insane matches, in order that when they fix this, it will sync with the rest of the difficulty settings? or will I have to do them all over again? this is not a common issue, so id just go for them if i were you. it the same happens to you, go yell at blizzard  | ||
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Comadevil
Germany214 Posts
Mail vom Blizz support Thank you for your reply, and sorry for the long wait. We've received several reports about this type of achievement issue, a bug report has been forwarded to our StarCraft II team for investigation. While we cannot guarantee a direct response, we can assure you that this issue will be investigated thoroughly. Should the issue turn out to be a bug; all effort will be taken to correct this issue as soon as possible. I hope you continue to enjoy the game, but if you have any further issues, you know where to find us! | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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NewbieOne
Poland560 Posts
Please note I'm not a good player, you will see typical leaks of the lower leagues, as well as somewhat passive play. Also, it most probably doesn't work every time you try. In this game, I had a bit of luck because my two AI allies seemed to be successful in rushing one of the opponents. They almost killed his nexus before I joined the party. The 4v4 can be cannon-rushed in PvP on Megaton but doesn't work so great with PvT. As for 4v4 TvT, my computer is too weak to handle that. I'd be grateful for some hints on how to do XvP, XvZ, TvX, ZvX. Not the necessarily in one go, as it's probably more economical to do it the easiest way for each, instead of retrying over and over to do it in a single attempt. OT: Getting the Romp achievements is sooo tedious. Edit: PvAnything can be done by pylon "harass", a technique I found in Google from a gentleman called Pallytime. You basically build pylons in some spot between enemy bases on Megaton and cancel them, delaying the enemy as workers come to destroy the thing. To assist your allies, you either start building a normal base at some point or you start laying down cannons in useful spots, e.g. by placing pylons where your allies are attacking. Then cannons. All three races of enemies can be defeated this way, I guess, though Protoss enemies can be cannon-rushed the regular way. Now I need to find a way to do the Zerg and Terran Kin vs AI, which is gonna be hard, I suppose, but I can do it vs any mix, which could make it easier. And it's bugged, you aren't getting lower difficulties of the 4 vs AI Kin achievements for completing insane. I suppose very hard can still be tiresome and hard might not always be a cakewalk, as your allies must be the same difficulty AI as the enemy, of course. Let's see. | ||
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Tuczniak
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Osmeus
United States40 Posts
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NewbieOne
Poland560 Posts
T and Z games got me down to like 1 fps at some points too. It was awful. Zerg is not my race, so I just pulled off some spine crawler harassment on the mineral line of one of the enemies, droned hard, expanded, added queens, teched, went muta (Very Hard) and hydras (Insane). It can be pulled off with some good harass and a cleverer choice of targets to strike than the AI allies' (they go for the army instead of hitting all the economy they can while the enemy is regrouping). So at some points I'd leave my allies to fight the usual battles on the ramps and go kill the expansions.Terran, which is my race, was even harder. I couldn't pull off TvP, didn't want mirror... finally succeeded vs all random enemies when I could go banshees. By the way, during some of the failed attempts, I managed to take one enemy away or almost completely away during harass or early in game and still lose in the end. ;P Anyway, this was sick. I think human enemies in ladder aren't going to make much impression on me after all this Insane AI all around the map. Now only have to finish off the Romp. I'm halfway there with Protoss v. Insane, will probably cannon rush it to the end (since I can't bunker rush or sixpool Insane AI successfully) and then just solo the random hundred vs. Medium while listening to the music or talking on Skype. ...And the Hard 4v4 achievements, thanks to the bug. But Hard should be piece of cake after all this (easy cannon rush, comfortable macro zerg and doable banshees, I guess). And I don't care for normal game (without cheese) because of the way allies operate. On February 04 2011 04:29 Osmeus wrote: Simply get all you team mates to cannon rush the AI. But one of the hardest problems for it is that some player go really far from their mineral like. Try to be as close as possible to the mineral line and the A.I's base. If you yo do it from far away, it may take more than 10-15 minutes. If you do it my way you will finish it around 5-7 minutes. You must be talking about the Cooperative achievements. There's no way to get your AI allies to cannon rush the other AI. Now that would be a sight to behold. I suppose for Co-op, you can go cannon rush for PvP, sixpool for ZvT (everybody strikes his own terran separately but at the exact same time unless terrans gang up), marines/hellions/late thors for TvZ (or just one dood rides around with blue flame hellions killing off drones on all AI enemies while the rest are fighting the AI armies) and done. Coop may be a pain in terms of Romp, if you go with random people... | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
I won at first try with that strat, but no replay anymore sry. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
As Protoss turtle until robo tech and a warp prism then take the islands. Make doublerows of cannons or turrets on the side of the island facing the rest of the map, and tech to BCs or carriers respectively. If you want to do it without this, just turtle at your base with cannons. AI is remarkably stupid when it comes to cannons and also when trying to drop over the top of cannons...they'll only send in one or two dropships at a time. | ||
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