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Eredia
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden47 Posts
July 30 2010 04:39 GMT
#1
That's right the achievement that requires you to complete the whole campaign in less than 8 hours "live game time". On normal or higher difficulty.

I played the campaign on hard difficulty and got some really slow times on some of the maps. I now intend to replay alot of them just to get this achievement.

The question is, do I have to replay the maps on hard, or will it count my time on normal difficulty if it's faster than the time I got on hard? That is can I mix times from each mission between normal and hard/brutal to get a total less than 8 hours?
Deindar
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
July 30 2010 05:28 GMT
#2
good question. personally, I think it makes more sense that you would have to start the campaign over again and all the failed/re-do attempts that you play count towards the total time.

i'd be interested, though, in seeing if anyone has actually tested this.
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CruS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden218 Posts
July 31 2010 22:13 GMT
#3
I´m not sure, but in my experience whenever, in the campaign, they say "normal difficulty" they actually mean "at least normal difficulty" seeing how other achievements works.
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Eredia
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden47 Posts
July 31 2010 22:20 GMT
#4
What I did mean was that if you look at the mission archive you will see your best time on a map. I thought I could get the achievement by lowering my best time on all maps by replaying them. To gain a total below 8 hours.

Did anyone try this? And if it would work, could it be a mix of times from normal/hard difficulty.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
July 31 2010 22:23 GMT
#5
Well you only need to complete 19 maps to completely beat the campaign. Chances are you did more than that and your best chance of getting the achievement is just to restart the campaign and do the bare minimum.
CruS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden218 Posts
July 31 2010 22:32 GMT
#6
On August 01 2010 07:23 naonao wrote:
Well you only need to complete 19 maps to completely beat the campaign. Chances are you did more than that and your best chance of getting the achievement is just to restart the campaign and do the bare minimum.



you can replay your missions from the mission archive. The achievements sum your best time from all the campaign missions, only counting normal difficulty or higher. The question is whether it will count a better hard mode time, if you have a worse normal mode time on the same mission. I think it would.
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Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
July 31 2010 22:42 GMT
#7
On August 01 2010 07:32 CruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 07:23 naonao wrote:
Well you only need to complete 19 maps to completely beat the campaign. Chances are you did more than that and your best chance of getting the achievement is just to restart the campaign and do the bare minimum.



you can replay your missions from the mission archive. The achievements sum your best time from all the campaign missions, only counting normal difficulty or higher. The question is whether it will count a better hard mode time, if you have a worse normal mode time on the same mission. I think it would.


But you can't UNDO missions you could've skipped in the first place. Why reduce your time from 25:42 to 23:22 when you can make it 00:00 I'd restart the campaign aswell if I had done something like 25 missions to begin with. Way less hassle.
CruS
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden218 Posts
July 31 2010 22:47 GMT
#8
You might be right, but if I were to create such an achievement, I would make sure it only counts the needed missions
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
July 31 2010 23:54 GMT
#9
just restart the campaign, why be fancy and risk wasting 8 hours of ur life><
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t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
August 01 2010 01:16 GMT
#10
I'm quite you have to start the campaign over again, plus then you can just play casual, skip half of the missions and just get a rapage time on idiot AIs to make the 8 hour time limit not even hard.
Tonyoh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France218 Posts
August 01 2010 02:04 GMT
#11
achievement doesnt work with casual mode.
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SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 01 2010 02:12 GMT
#12
I just redid the entire campaign again. Dont risk it imo.
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jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
August 01 2010 02:29 GMT
#13
I'm trying to get this achievement now and just started a new campaign on normal. Is it just me or is the game speed on normal wayyyy slower than on brutal? Is there anyway to increase the game speed on normal? It sucks having to play feeling like its constantly lagging.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 01 2010 02:31 GMT
#14
On August 01 2010 11:29 jiabung wrote:
I'm trying to get this achievement now and just started a new campaign on normal. Is it just me or is the game speed on normal wayyyy slower than on brutal? Is there anyway to increase the game speed on normal? It sucks having to play feeling like its constantly lagging.


Options------>game---->Speed---->Fastest

or something like that
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jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
August 01 2010 02:53 GMT
#15
thanks!!! I don't know how i missed it the first time..
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 02 2010 23:44 GMT
#16
Can anyone confirm if you can just use the Archives to replay missions on Normal and speedrun them for a lower cumulative time? Or am I wasting my time doing this and need to do a fresh campaign?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 02 2010 23:51 GMT
#17
On August 01 2010 08:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
just restart the campaign, why be fancy and risk wasting 8 hours of ur life><

Well 8 vs 16 ba dum shaa... naw i think just restart the campaign and just do the bare min something like doing the artifact ones first then zertul or w.e to skip most of the other crap.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 09:43:24
August 03 2010 09:43 GMT
#18
I replayed all the missions in Archives on Normal, I added up the time for every mission to be 446 minutes (~7.5 hours) and I didn't get the achievement. I am not amused.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
August 03 2010 10:48 GMT
#19
On August 03 2010 18:43 Zzoram wrote:
I replayed all the missions in Archives on Normal, I added up the time for every mission to be 446 minutes (~7.5 hours) and I didn't get the achievement. I am not amused.


Kind of obvious that they don't want you to steamroll the campaign with every upgrade and tech imaginable.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
August 03 2010 10:58 GMT
#20
Got this and Kerrigan's portrait in same playthrough. Rite Here.

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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
August 03 2010 11:23 GMT
#21
I recommend starting over. I think the way the time is calculated is it takes the lowest score of each mission you've done (on normal difficulty or higher) and adds it. I'm assuming you, like most people, completed a lot of unnecessary missions (e.g. zeratul missions), so that will just add more time. If you start a new campaign and just play the required 19 missions (I think 19 is the minimum), then you'll save yourself the time from the other 7 missions.

This might be wrong if my theory on how the time is calculated is wrong, though. Anyway, I found replaying the campaign on normal difficulty under 8 hours is easily doable, and I'm not one of the better speedrunners on TL, so you should be fine.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
August 03 2010 13:34 GMT
#22
On August 03 2010 19:48 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 18:43 Zzoram wrote:
I replayed all the missions in Archives on Normal, I added up the time for every mission to be 446 minutes (~7.5 hours) and I didn't get the achievement. I am not amused.


Kind of obvious that they don't want you to steamroll the campaign with every upgrade and tech imaginable.


That is not how that works.

You only have the upgrade and tech that you had when you first played that mission.
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 03 2010 14:04 GMT
#23
They could have made it so it counts time you wasted on failed attempts before you restart/reload an old save. Not hard technically, and would make sense. The achievement is for completing the campaign quickly - why would you expect to get it if you were retrying each level 20 times trying to optimize your result for several days?
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
August 03 2010 15:27 GMT
#24
Is there a list of mission you can you skip and still invade char?
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 03 2010 15:43 GMT
#25
On August 03 2010 22:34 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 19:48 ChickenLips wrote:
On August 03 2010 18:43 Zzoram wrote:
I replayed all the missions in Archives on Normal, I added up the time for every mission to be 446 minutes (~7.5 hours) and I didn't get the achievement. I am not amused.


Kind of obvious that they don't want you to steamroll the campaign with every upgrade and tech imaginable.


That is not how that works.

You only have the upgrade and tech that you had when you first played that mission.


Unless it's a mission you're going back to do that you skipped. Maybe not relevant to this achievement, but if you're struggling to beat a mission on brutal, skip it completely and come back with tech reactors and upgraded banshees and vikings; because we all know those beat every mission except All-In.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 03 2010 17:46 GMT
#26
On August 04 2010 00:27 Starfox wrote:
Is there a list of mission you can you skip and still invade char?


You need to do the artifact line so mission requirements are:

To unlock The Dig, you need 8 completed missions (Including Smash & Grab)

To unlock The Mobeius Factor, you need 11 completed missions (Including The Dig)

To unlock Supernova, you need 14 completed missions (Including The Mobeius Factor)


Thus, the shortest route you can take is:

Liberation -> Outlaws -> Zero Hour -> Smash & Grab + Any 4 -> The Dig + Any 2 ->
The Mobeius Factor + Any 2 -> Supernova -> Maw of the Void -> Char
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ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 01:00:06
August 03 2010 18:42 GMT
#27
self-nuked
Poobah
Profile Joined February 2010
England91 Posts
August 03 2010 21:59 GMT
#28
I would do the first three Zeratul missions asap because they are all really fast, and then ditch the fourth one because In Utter Darkness takes ages.

I would skip Tosh all together. None of the three units you get for his mission line are any good and the first two missions take quite a while to do as well.

Something like this seems like it'd be fast. Giving some aproximate times based on how fast I did these on my hard play through and on brutal if my brutal time was better which was mostly the case since I knew what I was doing on brutal. Rounded some of the times down a little cause I know they get dramatically easier on normal:

Liberation Day (5m) -> The Outlaws (5m) -> Zero Hour (20m) -> Smash & Grab (10m) -> 40m total aproximately

-> Evacuation (20m) -> Outbreak (25m) -> Train Robbery (20m) -> Safe Haven (10m) -> The Dig (takes ages, on hard and brutal, dunno if it's much shorter on normal because I guess there are a lot less things to shoot with your laser beam, call it 35m but maybe a lot shorter). -> 115m total

-> Whispers of Doom (20m) -> A Sinister Turn (20m maybe a lot less on normal) -> Echoes of the Future (5m) -> The Mobius Factor (10m) -> 170m total

Cutthroat (20m) -> Supernova (20m) -> Maw of the Void (30m) -> 240m total. That's 4 hours to get to Char.
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SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 00:57:59
August 04 2010 00:21 GMT
#29
On August 04 2010 06:59 Poobah wrote:
I would do the first three Zeratul missions asap because they are all really fast, and then ditch the fourth one because In Utter Darkness takes ages.

I would skip Tosh all together. None of the three units you get for his mission line are any good and the first two missions take quite a while to do as well.

Something like this seems like it'd be fast. Giving some aproximate times based on how fast I did these on my hard play through and on brutal if my brutal time was better which was mostly the case since I knew what I was doing on brutal. Rounded some of the times down a little cause I know they get dramatically easier on normal:

Liberation Day (5m) -> The Outlaws (5m) -> Zero Hour (20m) -> Smash & Grab (10m) -> 40m total aproximately

-> Evacuation (20m) -> Outbreak (25m) -> Train Robbery (20m) -> Safe Haven (10m) -> The Dig (takes ages, on hard and brutal, dunno if it's much shorter on normal because I guess there are a lot less things to shoot with your laser beam, call it 35m but maybe a lot shorter). -> 115m total

-> Whispers of Doom (20m) -> A Sinister Turn (20m maybe a lot less on normal) -> Echoes of the Future (5m) -> The Mobius Factor (10m) -> 170m total

Cutthroat (20m) -> Supernova (20m) -> Maw of the Void (30m) -> 240m total. That's 4 hours to get to Char.


Sounds good, except I would trade out Supernova for media blitz because thors are very useful for rushing the drop pod level on char, and you can beat it in 20 minutes easy if you keep the odin alive.

Edit: forgot Supernova was a artifact mission. Nevermind.
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ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
August 04 2010 00:56 GMT
#30
Oh I see, the protoss missions count XD lol. I was thinking they didn't count somehow
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
August 04 2010 01:05 GMT
#31
On August 03 2010 19:58 orgolove wrote:
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Got this and Kerrigan's portrait in same playthrough. Rite Here.

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You sir are a god among men. Finally got my kerrigan, but most missions were like 30 minutes or something crazy.
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Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 03:45:36
August 04 2010 03:41 GMT
#32
i finished all in with ~6hr of time according to archives but didnt get the achievement... =/

edit1: i redid one of the protoss missions in casual to pick up artifacts, would that be the reason?
kayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden27 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 01:07:34
August 05 2010 01:06 GMT
#33
I just finished with a 7 hour mission time, according to archives. No hassle, just played straight through. With 21/26 missions complete. And guess what? No achievement, yay. And this is the only one I have left in the single player part.

I hate you battle.net, you stupid broken piece of crap.

Never mind, when I tabbed back in after ragewriting this I had received it D:
Eredia
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden47 Posts
August 05 2010 01:11 GMT
#34
Well I did play it yesterday during the whole "all achievements are turned off untill further notice" and didnt recieve it after completing my playthrough. Same thing happened to my friend that played parallell to me.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 01:29:05
August 05 2010 01:28 GMT
#35
I did a full run though 19 of the 26 missions in about 5 hrs. I had plenty of time to spare. I did all the research parts in the missions because they really didn't take any extra time.:

Liberation Day
The Outlaws
Zero Hour
Smash and Grab
The Devil's Playground
Welcome to the Jungle
The Great Train Robbery
Cutthroat
The Dig
Whispers of Doom
A Sinister Turn
Echoes of the Future
In Utter Darkness
The Moebius Factor
Supernova
Maw of the Void
The Gates of Hell
Belly of the Beast
All In

Its on normal, so its not really very hard.
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theytookourjobs
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden79 Posts
August 06 2010 05:47 GMT
#36
I take it the 8 hour timer only runs when doing missions, right? Or does it also run in between missions like when you're in the cantina and stuff?
Brannigan
Profile Joined August 2010
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 06:29:36
August 06 2010 06:28 GMT
#37
Hi guys,

After I finished the whole 29/29 missions on brutal, I started a new campaign to get the armory achievements (saved up my money, saved, bought all of a kind, loaded, bought all of the next kind...and so on). I did all normal/hard achievements in that second rush too (exept for the timerun and this "Lost Viking"-crap). What pissed me already then was, that my brutal times weren't listed anymore, since i was playing a "new campaign".

Afterwards i decided to try to finish the game below 8h. I wanted to do that out of the archive, so i replayed almost every mission (exept for the timed ones ofc) and after i finally made a total time of 477:36 in all 29 missions --> no achievement. Have to admit, that i was kinda pissed. So i can confirm, that it won't work, if you try the achievement out of archieves and just lower the missiontime. What a shame 8/

So now i have to do another run, after which one can't even see my hard-times anymore on archieves. I guess i gonna do that speedrun and load one of the old savegames from my brutalrush afterwards.

Regards Brannigan
patrick321
Profile Joined August 2004
United States185 Posts
August 06 2010 06:51 GMT
#38
Awesome first post brannigan! I'm sure just about everybody who has the award was hoping they could do what you did. It's good to finally have an answer.
reddoggultima
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 07:22:50
August 06 2010 07:21 GMT
#39
Wish they could've just let you go back through the archives... the acheivment wording is misleading
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ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 10:34:17
August 06 2010 10:32 GMT
#40
On August 04 2010 06:59 Poobah wrote:
I would do the first three Zeratul missions asap because they are all really fast, and then ditch the fourth one because In Utter Darkness takes ages.

I would skip Tosh all together. None of the three units you get for his mission line are any good and the first two missions take quite a while to do as well.

Something like this seems like it'd be fast. Giving some aproximate times based on how fast I did these on my hard play through and on brutal if my brutal time was better which was mostly the case since I knew what I was doing on brutal. Rounded some of the times down a little cause I know they get dramatically easier on normal:

Liberation Day (5m) -> The Outlaws (5m) -> Zero Hour (20m) -> Smash & Grab (10m) -> 40m total aproximately

-> Evacuation (20m) -> Outbreak (25m) -> Train Robbery (20m) -> Safe Haven (10m) -> The Dig (takes ages, on hard and brutal, dunno if it's much shorter on normal because I guess there are a lot less things to shoot with your laser beam, call it 35m but maybe a lot shorter). -> 115m total

-> Whispers of Doom (20m) -> A Sinister Turn (20m maybe a lot less on normal) -> Echoes of the Future (5m) -> The Mobius Factor (10m) -> 170m total

Cutthroat (20m) -> Supernova (20m) -> Maw of the Void (30m) -> 240m total. That's 4 hours to get to Char.


Following this path I got through easy peezy. I'm a silver player in multiplayer so it doesn't take much skill
With the dig make sure you are aggressive and take out their bases. Then just go afk until the laser cuts through. I put in about 20-30 extra minutes to get to char. I did the anti-air mission as well. Probably ended up around 6-7 hours total.

Critical upgrades: marines, medic healing efficiency, banshees, viking range, siege tanks, bunkers, scv repair, CC reactor, orbital command, and PF

I did not have to re-do any missions. I suspect that doing anything in the archives screws up the achivement so be wary.

Mission times are the only ones that count. I frequently went AFK on victory screens and in the hyperion. Also, I did this over the course of 3 days so real time doesn't matter at all.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 07 2010 23:29 GMT
#41
My times and route:
2:32 Liberation Day
4:01 The Outlaws
20:12 Zero Hour
7:28 Smash and Grab
25:02 The Evacuation
21:07 Outbreak
25:54 The Great Train Robbery
11:07 Cutthroat
30:08 The Dig
9:33 Safe Haven
13:08 Whispers of Doom
7:56 A Sinister Turn
3:36 Echoes of the Future
8:36 The Moebius Factor
14:19 Supernova
9:24 Maw of the Void
13:15 The Gates of Hell
19:49 Belly of the Beast
30:08 All In

Without adding the seconds exactly but rounding to nearest :15, that was 4 hours and 25 minutes on normal.
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heronz
Profile Joined August 2010
25 Posts
August 08 2010 02:51 GMT
#42
how are people able to get haven's fall in 10mins? i just did it and it took a wooping 25mins.

i took out initial infestation with provided troops. then mass units with transport and whip out 2 other infestations and protected 3 other settlements.
Drakonis
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada97 Posts
August 08 2010 03:01 GMT
#43
Mass vikings makes Haven's Fall easy peezy
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 08 2010 03:28 GMT
#44
On August 08 2010 11:51 heronz wrote:
how are people able to get haven's fall in 10mins? i just did it and it took a wooping 25mins.

i took out initial infestation with provided troops. then mass units with transport and whip out 2 other infestations and protected 3 other settlements.


When your vikings are idle, and not scouting for the Zerg's next spawn, send them to the bottom or right expansion to take out the broodlords and mutalisks. Multitask and macro well.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 08 2010 03:53 GMT
#45
On normal you could just make vikings + 2-3 rax reactors mm and just walk through each zerg base. Basically once you have any decent number of mm you can kill the northern base with viking support, then just send vikings to clear out air as you move to the next base. Should be able to kill 1-2 bases before they infest a 2nd town on normal.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 08 2010 04:26 GMT
#46
I just went through the short 19/26 all on normal and it didn't give me the achievement, kinda stumped as to why(maybe setting game mode to faster makes it mad?)
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Kazastankas
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2 Posts
August 08 2010 21:18 GMT
#47
Being paused during a mission and/or reloading a mission to do it again will both count against your 8 hours in your short playthrough, so do beware.
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 09 2010 01:13 GMT
#48
I'm pissed I didn't get this either. I beat it in 6 hours and 4 minutes.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
August 09 2010 05:50 GMT
#49
On August 09 2010 06:18 Kazastankas wrote:
Being paused during a mission and/or reloading a mission to do it again will both count against your 8 hours in your short playthrough, so do beware.

Can anyone confirm that? That seems unlikely.
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Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
August 09 2010 06:58 GMT
#50
On August 06 2010 15:28 Brannigan wrote:
Hi guys,

After I finished the whole 29/29 missions on brutal, I started a new campaign to get the armory achievements (saved up my money, saved, bought all of a kind, loaded, bought all of the next kind...and so on).


slightly off topic, but i'd just like to point something out in case no one else has: you can replay missions, collect the research, and sell it again for ridiculous amounts of credits. infinitely. i got the master mechanic on one runthrough cos i was replaying missions to get acheivements and realized i was getting paid over and over and over for the research i picked up...
payed off security
Ingraved
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 09 2010 23:43 GMT
#51
On August 09 2010 15:58 Doc Daneeka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 15:28 Brannigan wrote:
Hi guys,

After I finished the whole 29/29 missions on brutal, I started a new campaign to get the armory achievements (saved up my money, saved, bought all of a kind, loaded, bought all of the next kind...and so on).


slightly off topic, but i'd just like to point something out in case no one else has: you can replay missions, collect the research, and sell it again for ridiculous amounts of credits. infinitely. i got the master mechanic on one runthrough cos i was replaying missions to get acheivements and realized i was getting paid over and over and over for the research i picked up...
Which missions did you do this on?
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 10 2010 00:03 GMT
#52
On August 01 2010 11:31 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 11:29 jiabung wrote:
I'm trying to get this achievement now and just started a new campaign on normal. Is it just me or is the game speed on normal wayyyy slower than on brutal? Is there anyway to increase the game speed on normal? It sucks having to play feeling like its constantly lagging.


Options------>game---->Speed---->Fastest

or something like that


Oh now you tell me. I speed through normal to get this achievement. Would've been way more convenient if I didn't have to play at a snails pace.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 10 2010 00:15 GMT
#53
On August 10 2010 08:43 Ingraved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:58 Doc Daneeka wrote:
On August 06 2010 15:28 Brannigan wrote:
Hi guys,

After I finished the whole 29/29 missions on brutal, I started a new campaign to get the armory achievements (saved up my money, saved, bought all of a kind, loaded, bought all of the next kind...and so on).


slightly off topic, but i'd just like to point something out in case no one else has: you can replay missions, collect the research, and sell it again for ridiculous amounts of credits. infinitely. i got the master mechanic on one runthrough cos i was replaying missions to get acheivements and realized i was getting paid over and over and over for the research i picked up...
Which missions did you do this on?

It doesn't matter. Get over 25 research in zerg or protoss(both is best), then replay any mission and you will get whatever amount you are above 25. Doesn't need to be a mission where you get research at all. If you're right before Char and have got all research you'll get 250k extra each time.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Opossum
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany48 Posts
August 10 2010 02:10 GMT
#54
On August 10 2010 09:15 Lobo2me wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 08:43 Ingraved wrote:
On August 09 2010 15:58 Doc Daneeka wrote:
On August 06 2010 15:28 Brannigan wrote:
Hi guys,

After I finished the whole 29/29 missions on brutal, I started a new campaign to get the armory achievements (saved up my money, saved, bought all of a kind, loaded, bought all of the next kind...and so on).


slightly off topic, but i'd just like to point something out in case no one else has: you can replay missions, collect the research, and sell it again for ridiculous amounts of credits. infinitely. i got the master mechanic on one runthrough cos i was replaying missions to get acheivements and realized i was getting paid over and over and over for the research i picked up...
Which missions did you do this on?

It doesn't matter. Get over 25 research in zerg or protoss(both is best), then replay any mission and you will get whatever amount you are above 25. Doesn't need to be a mission where you get research at all. If you're right before Char and have got all research you'll get 250k extra each time.


Works best on Liberation Day on Casual. My personal best is 2:07.
However, Replaying archive missions might indeed screw up this achievement. At least I just finished the campaign again on normal taking way less than 8 hours but replaying LD quite a few times. Didn't get the achievement :/.
Buttscratcher?
Shaithis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States383 Posts
August 10 2010 03:21 GMT
#55
On August 06 2010 19:32 ghen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 06:59 Poobah wrote:
I would do the first three Zeratul missions asap because they are all really fast, and then ditch the fourth one because In Utter Darkness takes ages.

I would skip Tosh all together. None of the three units you get for his mission line are any good and the first two missions take quite a while to do as well.

Something like this seems like it'd be fast. Giving some aproximate times based on how fast I did these on my hard play through and on brutal if my brutal time was better which was mostly the case since I knew what I was doing on brutal. Rounded some of the times down a little cause I know they get dramatically easier on normal:

Liberation Day (5m) -> The Outlaws (5m) -> Zero Hour (20m) -> Smash & Grab (10m) -> 40m total aproximately

-> Evacuation (20m) -> Outbreak (25m) -> Train Robbery (20m) -> Safe Haven (10m) -> The Dig (takes ages, on hard and brutal, dunno if it's much shorter on normal because I guess there are a lot less things to shoot with your laser beam, call it 35m but maybe a lot shorter). -> 115m total

-> Whispers of Doom (20m) -> A Sinister Turn (20m maybe a lot less on normal) -> Echoes of the Future (5m) -> The Mobius Factor (10m) -> 170m total

Cutthroat (20m) -> Supernova (20m) -> Maw of the Void (30m) -> 240m total. That's 4 hours to get to Char.


Following this path I got through easy peezy. I'm a silver player in multiplayer so it doesn't take much skill
With the dig make sure you are aggressive and take out their bases. Then just go afk until the laser cuts through. I put in about 20-30 extra minutes to get to char. I did the anti-air mission as well. Probably ended up around 6-7 hours total.

Critical upgrades: marines, medic healing efficiency, banshees, viking range, siege tanks, bunkers, scv repair, CC reactor, orbital command, and PF

I did not have to re-do any missions. I suspect that doing anything in the archives screws up the achivement so be wary.

Mission times are the only ones that count. I frequently went AFK on victory screens and in the hyperion. Also, I did this over the course of 3 days so real time doesn't matter at all.


Good post, bumping for great justice.

/end thread, no more confusion please
townsend`
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 22:17:06
August 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#56
It's not perfect but anybody Having trouble could try this Setup out.

Guideline:
Liberation Day
The Outlaws
Zero Hour
Smash and Grab
Any 4 Missions
The Dig
Any 2 Missions
The Moebius Factor
Any 2 Missions
Supernova
Maw of the Void
Final Missions

25/25 for both Protoss and Zerg Tech:
Protoss:
Ultra-Capacitors
Micro-Filtering
Automated Refinery
Science Vessel
Tech Reactor
Zerg:
Shrike Turret
Perdition Turret [lulz]
Hercules
Regenerative Bio-Steel
Psi Disrupter

Armory Upgrades:
Full:
Vikings
Banshees
Siege Tanks
Marines
Medics
Marauders
Missile Turret
Bunker
Partial:
Command Center [Orbital Command]
SCV [Dual Fusion Welders]

Playthrough Route With Time [found all artifacts/did one extra mission]:
Liberation Day: 2:35
The Outlaws: 6:18
Zero Hour: 20:12
Smash and Grab: 11:49
The Evacuation: 25:18
The Devil's Playground: 18:41
Welcome to the Jungle: 20:57
The Great Train Robbery: 24:30
The Dig: 32:32
Whispers of Doom: 19:09
A sinister Turn: 12:39
The Moebius Factor: 12:21
Echoes of the Future: 5:07
Outbreak: 25:15
Safe Haven: 9:18
SuperNova: 17:47
Maw of the Void: 24:09 [Wasted a lot of time here]
The Gates of Hell: 13:20
Shatter the Sky: 17:13
All In: 30:08

Total Time via Excel: 5:49:18
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#57
Finally beat this! YES!
wrip
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 10 2010 09:08 GMT
#58
Ok, so this is baffling me: I completed the campaign on Normal (second time round) and added up all of my mission times just now, came up with about 475 minutes. That should be just under the threshold, but no achievement. What am I doing wrong?
NETRAT
Profile Joined July 2010
Belarus180 Posts
August 10 2010 09:42 GMT
#59
took me about 5 hours to get this achievement(4.30-5), pure mm all the way
perbarian
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden42 Posts
August 10 2010 10:06 GMT
#60
I have a question that I guess could fit in here. It's not possible to get this achivement by improving your times in the mission archives, I know that. But if a play (and beat) all the missions on hard via the mission archives do I get that achivement or do I have to start a new campaign on hard?
Puts the fun in fundamentalist.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
August 11 2010 01:33 GMT
#61
Is there a way so that you can keep all your brutal times when you create a new campaign? Load an old save or something?
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 11 2010 01:35 GMT
#62
Everything is reset except for your achievements. But, you can just load your old save for brutal times and etc. though.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
August 11 2010 16:15 GMT
#63
On August 11 2010 10:33 Freezard wrote:
Is there a way so that you can keep all your brutal times when you create a new campaign? Load an old save or something?

I create a different folder for each campaign and save the files in the appropriate folder then when you want to load one its easy to know which is which. I dont know why the game doesnt already do this to be honest thats pretty standard with games that have campaigns like this.
dave22222
Profile Joined August 2010
20 Posts
August 11 2010 17:19 GMT
#64
Anyone have a save for this achievement?
Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
August 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#65
On August 12 2010 02:19 dave22222 wrote:
Anyone have a save for this achievement?

Grow some balls and earn it yourself!
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
August 11 2010 18:38 GMT
#66
Got this recently, it's fairly easy, I entirely skipped the whole dominion storyline, so I didn't have diamond backs wraiths vultures or thors, the only one of those to care about it thors, but w/e

normal was so easy the missions are a joke, and most can be done in 10-15 minutes max...
Deleted User 72834
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
August 11 2010 20:51 GMT
#67
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blah604
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada36 Posts
August 15 2010 18:25 GMT
#68
wait when you guys are doing the speed run, are you guys picking up the researches? because like the poster said he beat lib day 2:32min hows that possible if he had taken the researches and stuff.
Opossum
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany48 Posts
August 15 2010 18:44 GMT
#69
There are no researches in LD, simple as that .
First research is in Smash&Grab/Evacuation. Also apparently you get 3 Zerg researches for free once the lab is open.
Buttscratcher?
blah604
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada36 Posts
August 15 2010 19:59 GMT
#70
oh... i thought you had to destory the holo towers for points... gahh now wonder oh well im 3:02 ;p
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 20:39:23
August 15 2010 20:35 GMT
#71
On August 16 2010 03:25 blah604 wrote:
wait when you guys are doing the speed run, are you guys picking up the researches? because like the poster said he beat lib day 2:32min hows that possible if he had taken the researches and stuff.

You don't need all of the research. I got an overall time of just over 5 hours in my run, and that was with doing an extra mission of zeratul's for the research and going for additional bonus objectives on a few of the missions throughout (just because I had time, and wanted to have full research for All-In, for the hell of it).

Since you are playing on normal, you can quite easily beat the game with very minimal research, but the choice is yours whether or not you want to pick up additional research. You should have plenty of time if you plan accordingly (going off by someone else's time chart will at least give you a ballpark you should aim for).
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 15 2010 22:12 GMT
#72
I did speed run in about 5 hrs and got all the researches. Its super easy
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Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
August 16 2010 10:42 GMT
#73
I earned this achievement without unlocking any research, or purchasing any mercenaries. I did buy stim and medic healing upgrade, though.
DarthLeader
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada123 Posts
August 16 2010 13:11 GMT
#74
On August 01 2010 07:13 CruS wrote:
I´m not sure, but in my experience whenever, in the campaign, they say "normal difficulty" they actually mean "at least normal difficulty" seeing how other achievements works.


you are right, I got some normal achievements on hard.
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fugu.fugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Finland10 Posts
August 19 2010 13:32 GMT
#75
Boom. 248 min = 4h8min (of the sped-up in-game time.. I played on fastest). This was my first attempt at the achievement. Under 4 hours shouldn't be difficult at all, seeing as how I wasted quite a bit of time doing the train mission.

Protoss missions 2 and 3 are ridiculously fast. Mission 2: get 4 DTs, 3 of em should make it to the crystals, then kill all 3 crystals at the same time. Mission 3: you don't need to build (or kill) any units. Just blink through the map, stunning detectors when necessary.
virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
August 22 2010 17:53 GMT
#76
I counted together all the mission times (I had some on hard some on normal) and I have 460 minutes so under 8 hours, but no achievement, so I don't think you can get this achievement by replaying archive missions and getting better times
dfgdfgf
Profile Joined August 2010
5 Posts
August 22 2010 19:11 GMT
#77
On August 01 2010 07:13 CruS wrote:
I´m not sure, but in my experience whenever, in the campaign, they say "normal difficulty" they actually mean "at least normal difficulty" seeing how other achievements works.


What? Are you sure that's now it works? I assumed normal meant normal - so if there were two achievements one on hard and one on normal, I would do the map twice and do the achievement on each setting.
fugu.fugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Finland10 Posts
August 22 2010 19:25 GMT
#78
On August 23 2010 04:11 dfgdfgf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 07:13 CruS wrote:
I´m not sure, but in my experience whenever, in the campaign, they say "normal difficulty" they actually mean "at least normal difficulty" seeing how other achievements works.


What? Are you sure that's now it works? I assumed normal meant normal - so if there were two achievements one on hard and one on normal, I would do the map twice and do the achievement on each setting.


I can confirm this. I got normal and hard achievements while playing on hard and brutal.
Barook
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany143 Posts
August 22 2010 20:01 GMT
#79
All In Speed Run Save

Just googled it to as it was the last achievement I needed. For those who don't feel like wasting 5+ hours for such an stupid 10 point achievement and investing it into something more fun, like the multiplayer.

But respect to all those who have the endurance to do all the stuff again.
"Blink is pretty good, it helps your Stalkers to die quicker."
Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
August 22 2010 20:39 GMT
#80
On August 23 2010 05:01 Barook wrote:
All In Speed Run Save

Just googled it to as it was the last achievement I needed. For those who don't feel like wasting 5+ hours for such an stupid 10 point achievement and investing it into something more fun, like the multiplayer.

But respect to all those who have the endurance to do all the stuff again.


Lol thanks! I read through this forum post in less than 8 hours ;-)
I already decided I wasn't going to bother getting this achievement, because it's not really a challenge. I was just curious what was required. Pretty bad that blizzard allows the unlock of achievements via other people's savegames though. There are many more achievements that could potentially be unlocked this way.

But hey, who's complaining, I liked the campaign achievements to get some extra goals during the missions, now it's all multiplayer from here
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 22 2010 22:49 GMT
#81
On August 23 2010 05:01 Barook wrote:
All In Speed Run Save

Just googled it to as it was the last achievement I needed. For those who don't feel like wasting 5+ hours for such an stupid 10 point achievement and investing it into something more fun, like the multiplayer.

But respect to all those who have the endurance to do all the stuff again.

I managed to do it in under 5 hours. Its not so bad really. I just did it one afternoon when I was bored and didnt feel like multiplayer.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
August 22 2010 23:07 GMT
#82
On August 04 2010 10:05 btlyger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 19:58 orgolove wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Got this and Kerrigan's portrait in same playthrough. Rite Here.

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[img]http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6526/89803794.jpg[/img
]


You sir are a god among men. Finally got my kerrigan, but most missions were like 30 minutes or something crazy.

really quite doubt this is true... or misleading
he probably just finished all the missions except for one and got that one on his playthrough by setting that one mission on brutal.... or maybe just happened to get both achievements on the same day
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 22 2010 23:25 GMT
#83
You can repeat the same mission over and over to get a better time. Just do it before you beat All In.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
August 23 2010 10:11 GMT
#84
On August 23 2010 08:25 Ownos wrote:
You can repeat the same mission over and over to get a better time. Just do it before you beat All In.

you can but you won't get the achievement, got total time under 480 minutes and still no achievement
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 23 2010 10:16 GMT
#85
Trying it now.

So far :

Mission 1 = 3:20
Mission 2 = 7:02
Mission 3 = 20:08
Smash & grab = 10:25
Devil's playground = 9:10 (could have done it in less but didn't micro the reapers good enough to kill the hatchs fast enough)
The evac = 25:04

So 6 missions so far for 1:15:09 --- 13 to go.

They'd better give me the achievement at the end cause i'm borred lol did 5 campaign so far :p
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Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#86
weird thing happening.

i sumed up all the time i got at the end of each mission done. i have a total of around 1h48min but on my save file when i look on the "load menu" it's written 1h20-ish... 30 minutes just vannished...

Don't get me wrong, that's 30 min free to get the 8hours achievement but i'd like to understand what clock does the achievement is based on...
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 23 2010 14:16 GMT
#87
I read many different theories about this achievement and I decided to do it on normal and fastest speed. It took me 4 hours irl, I played from 14:00-18:00 straight. I also kept all my credits to lame/abuse the armory achievements, therefore did all missions except the prophecy ones.

I suggest you just restart the campaign, don't bother with replaying them from the archive. I heard there might be a problem then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Poobah
Profile Joined February 2010
England91 Posts
August 23 2010 14:40 GMT
#88
Did this one evening in about 4 hours RL time. Did quite a few missions I didn't need to because hell this was normal and I felt like screwing around with perma-cloaked spectres and stuff so I needed to do Tosh's missions and then I wanted Vikings so I did Ariel's missions.
This above all: to thine own self be true
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 23 2010 18:37 GMT
#89
ok, i continued,

mission 7 : the outbreak ==> 32 min because i only attacked during the day and i was lazy
mission 8 : The train ==> 24 min 24 sec because you can't go any faster :-/
mission 9 : the dig ==> 32 min 22 sec because it was my lunch break and i wasn't really payin attention lol
mission 10 : Safe Heaven ==> 12 min, could have done it in 10 but i wanted to gather more viking

10 missions and 2 hours 57 minutes played in total (game time), i also didn't dare changing the game speed because i don't want to finnish the game and not get the achievement because i changed the settings (dunno if that would change anything but didn't dare ^^)

gonna do the 3 first mission of the prophetie, shouldn't take more than 30 min.
mobius factor took me 15 min on hard, i get it'll take 10 on normal.

i hate supernova (the whole wall of fire thing stresses me ^^) and i tend to fall asleep on the mow of void... :s
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 22:43:13
August 24 2010 22:42 GMT
#90
On August 23 2010 20:20 Piou wrote:
weird thing happening.

i sumed up all the time i got at the end of each mission done. i have a total of around 1h48min but on my save file when i look on the "load menu" it's written 1h20-ish... 30 minutes just vannished...

Don't get me wrong, that's 30 min free to get the 8hours achievement but i'd like to understand what clock does the achievement is based on...

I have several saves that I made between missions (on the hyperion) and later saves show sometimes lower times. My conclusion was that when you save in between missions the time that is shown has nothing to do with the campaign duration, but is simply an actual time stamp.
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MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 23:28:30
August 24 2010 23:21 GMT
#91
another tip for doing the speed run: Don't do any mat horner rebellion missions. You don't need them to complete the campaign. maybe you need one or two, but i did it without doing the odin mission and follow up at least.

On August 25 2010 07:42 Carnac wrote:
but is simply an actual time stamp.

therefore: skip in-mission cinematics! :D
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
August 25 2010 01:25 GMT
#92
You do have to do a handful outside of the artifact line (you need a certain number to unlock the final missions), but you can pick and choose to get the shortest ones.
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DarkSeerTurbo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States105 Posts
August 25 2010 02:13 GMT
#93
Question: do you have to do EVERY single mission (the alternative missions+protoss missions) or do you just have to get to and beat the last level?
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
August 25 2010 02:26 GMT
#94
You just need to beat the last level, i skipped all odin ones and also the prophecy ones.
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
August 25 2010 02:50 GMT
#95
On August 24 2010 03:37 Piou wrote:
ok, i continued,

mission 7 : the outbreak ==> 32 min because i only attacked during the day and i was lazy
mission 8 : The train ==> 24 min 24 sec because you can't go any faster :-/
mission 9 : the dig ==> 32 min 22 sec because it was my lunch break and i wasn't really payin attention lol
mission 10 : Safe Heaven ==> 12 min, could have done it in 10 but i wanted to gather more viking

10 missions and 2 hours 57 minutes played in total (game time), i also didn't dare changing the game speed because i don't want to finnish the game and not get the achievement because i changed the settings (dunno if that would change anything but didn't dare ^^)

gonna do the 3 first mission of the prophetie, shouldn't take more than 30 min.
mobius factor took me 15 min on hard, i get it'll take 10 on normal.

i hate supernova (the whole wall of fire thing stresses me ^^) and i tend to fall asleep on the mow of void... :s

I changed my gamespeed and i got the achievement so dont let that scare you though admittedly i did have plenty of time to spare. It just means the mission time showed doesnt = real time anymore.

The tip for outbreak is to mass reapers they destroy buildings soooo fast but too late now i guess.

The train, assuming thats the great train robbery i think you can do it quicker. I just recently did that on my brutal runthrough in 21.06 because you cant hang around on the train kills or they can spawn when the kill squads are walking on the line. I think they spawn a set time after you killed the previous one if that makes sense. Or maybe brutal is just faster, not that you want to risk doing that one on brutal.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
August 25 2010 02:53 GMT
#96
On August 23 2010 19:11 virusak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 08:25 Ownos wrote:
You can repeat the same mission over and over to get a better time. Just do it before you beat All In.

you can but you won't get the achievement, got total time under 480 minutes and still no achievement

If you load from a previous save then i think you will be ok i certainly did this a couple of times due to crashes etc but repeating a mission wont be ok. So you could feasibly do a mission over to get a good time before moving onto the next but that would be a very tedious way of doing it and you get a lot of slack anyway.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 03:57:44
August 25 2010 03:55 GMT
#97
ack double
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 25 2010 03:57 GMT
#98
On August 23 2010 05:01 Barook wrote:
All In Speed Run Save

Just googled it to as it was the last achievement I needed. For those who don't feel like wasting 5+ hours for such an stupid 10 point achievement and investing it into something more fun, like the multiplayer.

But respect to all those who have the endurance to do all the stuff again.

Kinda defeats the point.....But I guess whatever floats your boat.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 25 2010 04:20 GMT
#99
Anyone get the reference?

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Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 25 2010 13:53 GMT
#100
On August 25 2010 11:50 Vimsey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 03:37 Piou wrote:
ok, i continued,

mission 7 : the outbreak ==> 32 min because i only attacked during the day and i was lazy
mission 8 : The train ==> 24 min 24 sec because you can't go any faster :-/
mission 9 : the dig ==> 32 min 22 sec because it was my lunch break and i wasn't really payin attention lol
mission 10 : Safe Heaven ==> 12 min, could have done it in 10 but i wanted to gather more viking

10 missions and 2 hours 57 minutes played in total (game time), i also didn't dare changing the game speed because i don't want to finnish the game and not get the achievement because i changed the settings (dunno if that would change anything but didn't dare ^^)

gonna do the 3 first mission of the prophetie, shouldn't take more than 30 min.
mobius factor took me 15 min on hard, i get it'll take 10 on normal.

i hate supernova (the whole wall of fire thing stresses me ^^) and i tend to fall asleep on the mow of void... :s

I changed my gamespeed and i got the achievement so dont let that scare you though admittedly i did have plenty of time to spare. It just means the mission time showed doesnt = real time anymore.

The tip for outbreak is to mass reapers they destroy buildings soooo fast but too late now i guess.

The train, assuming thats the great train robbery i think you can do it quicker. I just recently did that on my brutal runthrough in 21.06 because you cant hang around on the train kills or they can spawn when the kill squads are walking on the line. I think they spawn a set time after you killed the previous one if that makes sense. Or maybe brutal is just faster, not that you want to risk doing that one on brutal.


it's faster in brutal

and the "spawn kill" is a good idea ! + you're right about the delay between each train i think
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Chawhee
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2 Posts
August 26 2010 08:04 GMT
#101
I beat the entire game on normal mode in 4h 49min, but I didnt get the achievement. Somewhere in that run I got disconnected from battlenet. The reason I didn't get the achievement is because you can't earn achievements while offline. BUT my question is, can I log back on to battlenet and go backwards to get my achievement? Doing All In first, then Shatter The Sky, ect untill I reach the point where I got DCed from battlenet? Or should I just restart altogether?
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 26 2010 11:00 GMT
#102
On August 26 2010 17:04 Chawhee wrote:
I beat the entire game on normal mode in 4h 49min, but I didnt get the achievement. Somewhere in that run I got disconnected from battlenet. The reason I didn't get the achievement is because you can't earn achievements while offline. BUT my question is, can I log back on to battlenet and go backwards to get my achievement? Doing All In first, then Shatter The Sky, ect untill I reach the point where I got DCed from battlenet? Or should I just restart altogether?


try to re-do All-in with your last saved game. it should work, otherwise, i dunno
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Draken
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada61 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 15:06:36
August 26 2010 14:51 GMT
#103
I have all achievements except this one and the two stupid arcade game ones.

I beat the raid time using the archive. When it didn't work, i thought i had to beat all the 29 missions under 8 hours, so i did it in a bit under that. Still no achievement.

Then i search for it on Google and found this thread... I really don't feel like redoing everything (already did everything on hard, then brutal, then normal thru archives... and normal is so easy and boring) and since I know i already beat the time record, I might end up just using the savegame.

My times :

2:35 liberation
7:30 outlaws
20:12 zero
8:45 smash

23:11 evac
14:14 devil (tosh)
10:35 jungle (tosh)
18:59 outbreak
27:33 dig

9:51 doom (protoss)
11:13 sinister (protoss)
13:23 echoes (protoss)
35:32 darkness (protoss)

14:17 breakout (tosh)
15:35 ghost
24:52 train
13:47 cutthroat
20:31 engine

15:01 media
12:08 shroud
8:20 safe
16:06 fall
11:57 moebius

9:50 nova
20:46 maw
11:42 gates
21:54 belly
17:06 shatter
30:08 all in
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 26 2010 15:23 GMT
#104
impressive !

I just have to do "All-in" and i have 2h57 minutes left
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Volshok
Profile Joined August 2008
United States349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 15:38:12
August 26 2010 15:37 GMT
#105
On August 26 2010 23:51 Draken wrote:
I have all achievements except this one and the two stupid arcade game ones.

I beat the raid time using the archive. When it didn't work, i thought i had to beat all the 29 missions under 8 hours, so i did it in a bit under that. Still no achievement.

Then i search for it on Google and found this thread... I really don't feel like redoing everything (already did everything on hard, then brutal, then normal thru archives... and normal is so easy and boring) and since I know i already beat the time record, I might end up just using the savegame.

My times :

2:35 liberation
7:30 outlaws
20:12 zero
8:45 smash

23:11 evac
14:14 devil (tosh)
10:35 jungle (tosh)
18:59 outbreak
27:33 dig

9:51 doom (protoss)
11:13 sinister (protoss)
13:23 echoes (protoss)
35:32 darkness (protoss)

14:17 breakout (tosh)
15:35 ghost
24:52 train
13:47 cutthroat
20:31 engine

15:01 media
12:08 shroud
8:20 safe
16:06 fall
11:57 moebius

9:50 nova
20:46 maw
11:42 gates
21:54 belly
17:06 shatter
30:08 all in


Echoes can be put to ~4 minutes if you blink + void prison rush it. Not sure what my times were, I'll add them up when I get home.
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Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 26 2010 16:20 GMT
#106
just finnished, total of 5hours and 34 minutes without rushing
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roninmedia
Profile Joined August 2010
8 Posts
August 26 2010 23:52 GMT
#107
I finished the campaign going through normal then replaying a mission on hard to get all the achievements. If I add up all my lowest times in the archive for all 26 missions, it comes out to 7 hrs, 50 minutes, and 39 seconds.But no achievement.

0:02:47 Liberation Day
0:05:32 The Outlaws
0:20:08 Zero Hour
0:08:51 Smash and Grab
0:12:57 Devil's Playground
0:16:00 Welcome to the Jungle
0:23:35 The Evacuation
0:25:13 Outbreak
0:27:47 The Dig
0:11:16 Whispers of Doom
0:10:56 A Sinister Turn
0:06:25 Echoes of the Future
0:43:18 In Utter Darkness
0:24:36 The Great Train Robbery
0:18:53 Cutthroat
0:19:03 Haven's Fall
0:15:33 The Moebius Factor
0:20:49 Supernova
0:17:28 Maw of the Void
0:14:07 Breakout
0:25:20 Engine of Destruction
0:19:15 Media Blitz
0:12:06 Piercing the Shroud
0:13:38 Gates of Hell
0:24:58 Shatter the Sky
0:30:08 All-in
7:50:39
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 27 2010 07:30 GMT
#108
On August 27 2010 08:52 roninmedia wrote:
I finished the campaign going through normal then replaying a mission on hard to get all the achievements. If I add up all my lowest times in the archive for all 26 missions, it comes out to 7 hrs, 50 minutes, and 39 seconds.But no achievement.

0:02:47 Liberation Day
0:05:32 The Outlaws
0:20:08 Zero Hour
0:08:51 Smash and Grab
0:12:57 Devil's Playground
0:16:00 Welcome to the Jungle
0:23:35 The Evacuation
0:25:13 Outbreak
0:27:47 The Dig
0:11:16 Whispers of Doom
0:10:56 A Sinister Turn
0:06:25 Echoes of the Future
0:43:18 In Utter Darkness
0:24:36 The Great Train Robbery
0:18:53 Cutthroat
0:19:03 Haven's Fall
0:15:33 The Moebius Factor
0:20:49 Supernova
0:17:28 Maw of the Void
0:14:07 Breakout
0:25:20 Engine of Destruction
0:19:15 Media Blitz
0:12:06 Piercing the Shroud
0:13:38 Gates of Hell
0:24:58 Shatter the Sky
0:30:08 All-in
7:50:39


yeah it's because they only count the first time i think. I'm no sure, on the french forum of battle.net, people also think that it's the time in game so let's say you do a mission in 20 minutes, they you do it again to have a better time and you do it in 10 minutes. The game won't count the time as 10 minutes (your best time) but as 30 (the time you spent in game).
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rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
August 27 2010 16:08 GMT
#109
On August 27 2010 16:30 Piou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 08:52 roninmedia wrote:
I finished the campaign going through normal then replaying a mission on hard to get all the achievements. If I add up all my lowest times in the archive for all 26 missions, it comes out to 7 hrs, 50 minutes, and 39 seconds.But no achievement.

0:02:47 Liberation Day
0:05:32 The Outlaws
0:20:08 Zero Hour
0:08:51 Smash and Grab
0:12:57 Devil's Playground
0:16:00 Welcome to the Jungle
0:23:35 The Evacuation
0:25:13 Outbreak
0:27:47 The Dig
0:11:16 Whispers of Doom
0:10:56 A Sinister Turn
0:06:25 Echoes of the Future
0:43:18 In Utter Darkness
0:24:36 The Great Train Robbery
0:18:53 Cutthroat
0:19:03 Haven's Fall
0:15:33 The Moebius Factor
0:20:49 Supernova
0:17:28 Maw of the Void
0:14:07 Breakout
0:25:20 Engine of Destruction
0:19:15 Media Blitz
0:12:06 Piercing the Shroud
0:13:38 Gates of Hell
0:24:58 Shatter the Sky
0:30:08 All-in
7:50:39


yeah it's because they only count the first time i think. I'm no sure, on the french forum of battle.net, people also think that it's the time in game so let's say you do a mission in 20 minutes, they you do it again to have a better time and you do it in 10 minutes. The game won't count the time as 10 minutes (your best time) but as 30 (the time you spent in game).


This achievement mechanic says to me:
Thanks for putting much effort into playing all missions on hard and brutal, now please do everything again from scratch.

>.<
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 30 2010 22:34 GMT
#110
just ran through it and i still have not gotten the fucking achievement, even tho my time adds up to around 5 hours.
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Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 10:56:57
September 02 2010 01:50 GMT
#111
Link to raid night info since it was closed
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=148906

+ Show Spoiler [The Info] +
Let's answer some questions.

1. Do you need to finish all campaign missions?

No, you only need to do the mission tree that will allow you to beat All In within 8 hours. Shortest route takes 19 missions.
+ Show Spoiler +

The Any Missions means any mission available at that point will work. The main mission line that needs to be completed is the Artifact Line which have a required mission completed to get to it.
1.Liberation Day
2.Outlaws
3.Zero Hour
4.Smash and Grab
5.Any Mission
6.Any Mission
7.Any Mission
8.Any Mission
9.The Dig
10.Any Mission
11.Any Mission
12.The Moebius Factor
13.Any Mission
14.Any Mission
15.Supernova
16.Maw of the Void
17.Gates of Hell
18.Belly of the Beast/Shatter the Sky
19.All In


2. 8 hours...?

8 Hours total played in mission time.

3. Battle.net disconnected?

Redo the campaign or reload the file before Battle.net disconnected.

4. I'm too lazy to do the campaign for this achievement...

Here: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P01B3VQ5


5. Can you do this achievement by doing mission archives? [seolinker]

No, it must be a campaign run through.

6. Can higher difficulties be used for any of these missions? [Ruthless]

Yes, you just need to complete it on normal or above.

7. If you do unnecessary missions, do those count towards your total played time? [Blasius]

Yes, your total played in mission time UNTIL you beat campaign will count.

8. Do you have to do the Zeratul missions? [KillerPlague]

No, those are optional.

9. Does it only count the time from your 1st play through? [Blasius]
If you redo a mission does it help your time or hurt it? [KillerPlague]


Actually I do not know this question. I do know that if you've already beat the campaign, going through the archives and shortening the time on them does not work. This is unconfirmed but I'm pretty sure doing the mission archives cannot get you this achievements. It's a play through so I would assume that it's the first run of missions in the campaign. Again, this is unconfirmed.

Anything else?
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
September 04 2010 23:33 GMT
#112
Does redoing a mission for whatever reason (say to get research points) add to your total time?
Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
September 04 2010 23:42 GMT
#113
On September 05 2010 08:33 Offhand wrote:
Does redoing a mission for whatever reason (say to get research points) add to your total time?

I don't think you can get research points from redoing a mission anyways. And I wouldn't suggest redoing a mission through archives if you are aiming for this achievement. I've heard a lot of problems with people using the archives for this achievement.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
September 05 2010 01:15 GMT
#114
On September 05 2010 08:42 Zades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 08:33 Offhand wrote:
Does redoing a mission for whatever reason (say to get research points) add to your total time?

I don't think you can get research points from redoing a mission anyways. And I wouldn't suggest redoing a mission through archives if you are aiming for this achievement. I've heard a lot of problems with people using the archives for this achievement.


I know you can replay missions to get missing research points (you can't earn the same point a second time though). The save files don't tell me what my "total mission time" is though, just the total time played, time spent on the bridge/armory/etc are all included there.

I have a save file with 53 minutes total in the campaign, even though summing up the first four mission times gives me slightly more then 40 minutes playtime.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 07 2010 23:17 GMT
#115
just to confirm, to get this achievement, i have to restart the campaign and go through it in normal. just wondering, if i do start a fresh campaign, will i be able to replay a saved file and lower the times through that too? or it must be done via a single run.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
September 07 2010 23:28 GMT
#116
On September 08 2010 08:17 Doraemon wrote:
just to confirm, to get this achievement, i have to restart the campaign and go through it in normal. just wondering, if i do start a fresh campaign, will i be able to replay a saved file and lower the times through that too? or it must be done via a single run.


As far as I understand it you must complete this Achievement in a single run. If you beat a mission in 20 min but decide to lower it to 10 min via the Archives it instead counts for 20+10 min = 30 mins!

Don't know if it's true but why risk it? You only need to do 19 missions and if you're decent and somewhat aggressive you'll not surpass 30 min on any mission = easy Achievement.

That's how I got mine earlier today
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 08 2010 00:54 GMT
#117
On September 08 2010 08:28 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 08:17 Doraemon wrote:
just to confirm, to get this achievement, i have to restart the campaign and go through it in normal. just wondering, if i do start a fresh campaign, will i be able to replay a saved file and lower the times through that too? or it must be done via a single run.


As far as I understand it you must complete this Achievement in a single run. If you beat a mission in 20 min but decide to lower it to 10 min via the Archives it instead counts for 20+10 min = 30 mins!

Don't know if it's true but why risk it? You only need to do 19 missions and if you're decent and somewhat aggressive you'll not surpass 30 min on any mission = easy Achievement.

That's how I got mine earlier today



ah!
i see

i suppose you can keep reloading a saved file BEFORE you finish the mission if you aren't satisfied with the progress.

thanks for the clarification
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
roksteady
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
September 10 2010 21:53 GMT
#118
Thanks for that link with the save. I did it in about 5.5 hrs and it didn't fire, loaded up that save and it fired. Thanks again.
My life for Pylo
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 11 2010 02:02 GMT
#119
So I got this achievement recently. I already beat it on normal, but didnt get this achievement, so I redid it on Hard doing the bare minimum of missions.

I had my wireless fail on me once during a mission, so I just aborted it and when my internet was back, I did it again and I still got it. Also, for the last mission I couldnt do it on Hard, but even when I downed it to Normal difficulty I still got it even though the rest of the mission was done on Hard.

Just a few things for people looking to get this achieve.
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coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
September 11 2010 02:15 GMT
#120
Just completed it! Took a few saved games because I wanted to keep times to a minimal, while getting enough research points to get a few abilities. Some missions are stupidly fast to do, especially second time around.

I found that you could do the Reaper one so quickly, by instantly lifting off barracks and going to north to second command centre and reapers, then using those, get the rest, (while mining) and pick up all of the minerals lying around. I didn't even build more scv's or mine gas, or build anything. Just run those reapers around getting their friends and the minerals, and by the time both mineral patches ( in front and behind ) of your base are mined out you'll have the 8000 likely.

I did find for the later ones rushing through meant I lacked that certain unit, or ability (I was really short on protoss tech because I missed one or two in each of the missions containing it), so watch out for that! Better to lose 3 minutes getting them then finishing the map!

Good luck to the rest of you. PS; shatter is quicker than nydus hunting.
silhouettes
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
September 12 2010 05:42 GMT
#121
just completed the campaign again.. and i overshot the timing by 4mins.. OMG!!
roksteady
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
September 12 2010 16:05 GMT
#122
On September 11 2010 11:15 coko wrote:
PS; shatter is quicker than nydus hunting.

Its quicker and I find the final mission easier with the nydus worms. I even got ace's high on brutal.
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Carefoot
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada410 Posts
September 16 2010 06:23 GMT
#123
This is my last achievement and after doing brutal twice I have no intreats in this any way to cheat this one?
The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars
mashdar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
September 18 2010 02:21 GMT
#124
Perhaps I missed it, but I thought I would state this explicitly since I didn't see it anywhere: You CAN save and resume later (tomorrow, next week, etc) and get this achievement. No need to start the campaign and finish in the next 8 real-world hours. Hooray!
quote.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 18 2010 21:23 GMT
#125
On September 12 2010 14:42 silhouettes wrote:
just completed the campaign again.. and i overshot the timing by 4mins.. OMG!!


You can just replay missions you did poorly on and improve your overall time.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
skintigh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
September 20 2010 23:17 GMT
#126
Question and an experiment to find out the answer:

I wonder if what the game times is the real time you spend *in* a mission not the game time, i.e. it records the time you start it and the time you finish it and takes the difference. (I highlighted *in* because it seems to be okay to go AFK between missions) So if you save and reload for 4 hours real time to get a 10 minute game time, it records that towards the achievement as 4 hours. That would make sense from a programming perspective, if you wanted to simulate playing 8 hours straight in real time. Or if you pause *in a mission* for 8 hours you automatically lose all hope.

Here's how to test it (if you don't have the achievement yet): make/get a save right before finishing the final mission and earning the achievement, pause in the mission for 8 hours, finish the mission. Did you get it? If not, you could just reload the save.
Sleep is for the week
Pentiam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1 Post
September 28 2010 19:57 GMT
#127
I'm not sure if anyone is still having trouble with this or isn't clear on the requirements, but I just got this achievement the other day, and I earned this by doing replays form the mission archive after beating the campaign through all 26 missions. However, I was also trying to get the Brutal Completionist achievement, so I replayed the missions I did not choose in story mode. After earning that, I replayed all of the default 26 until my cumulative time was under 8 hours - but I didn't get the achievement. It then occurred to me, that after adding in the optional missions my time was still over 8 hours. After replaying until all 29 mission times were under 8 hours, I earned the achievement, so if you try a mission in the archive that you hadn't done before, it adds to your total time.

From this, you know that it only counts best mission times, and idle time does not count towards the achievement and it can be done through archive replays and that it is even possible with all 29 missions. That being said, I struggled to shave off the last 15 or so minutes because you cannot replay Piercing the Shroud for a better time - doing so merely creates another game file where you would have been had you just beaten the mission in story mode.

Here are my best times, which, unless otherwise noted, are speed runs on Normal:

Liberation Day - 3:22
The Outlaws - 7:08
Zero Hour - 20:12 (B)
The Evacuation - 25:03
Outbreak - 23:17
Devil's Playground - 12:40
Smash and Grab - 9:07
Safe Haven - 13:16
Haven's Fall - 17:48
The Dig - 27:44
Whispers of Doom - 12:56
A Sinister Turn - 8:46
Echoes of the Future - 3:35
In Utter Darkness - 34:59
The Great Train Robbery - 21:14 (B)
The Moebius Factor - 10:39
Cutthroat - 11:14
Supernova - 14:47
Welcome to the Jungle - 9:40
Breakout - 12:39
Ghost of a Chance - 9:45
Engine of Destruction - 16:34
Media Blitz - 17:18
Piercing the Shroud - 33:00(B) - Not Replayable (Speed Run on Normal: 9:47)
Maw of the Void - 18:19
Gates of Hell - 15:03
Belly of the Beast - 21:28
Shatter the Sky - 14:48
All In - 30:08 (B)

Total Time: 7:56:29

Some missions such as All In and Zero Hour I obviously didn't need to replay since they're timed but note that the Great Train Robbery is actually faster on Brutal since it gives you less time between trains. Replays through your mission archive are very useful if you're still over by the end of the campaign because you can, in fact, speed run missions and ignore bonus objectives for a better time. I shaved off a solid 6+ hours by doing so all in the course of a day.
Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
September 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#128
On September 21 2010 08:17 skintigh wrote:
Question and an experiment to find out the answer:

I wonder if what the game times is the real time you spend *in* a mission not the game time, i.e. it records the time you start it and the time you finish it and takes the difference. (I highlighted *in* because it seems to be okay to go AFK between missions) So if you save and reload for 4 hours real time to get a 10 minute game time, it records that towards the achievement as 4 hours. That would make sense from a programming perspective, if you wanted to simulate playing 8 hours straight in real time. Or if you pause *in a mission* for 8 hours you automatically lose all hope.

Here's how to test it (if you don't have the achievement yet): make/get a save right before finishing the final mission and earning the achievement, pause in the mission for 8 hours, finish the mission. Did you get it? If not, you could just reload the save.


It records in game time not real time. If you play at normal speed that's real time.
WellDuh
Profile Joined August 2010
34 Posts
September 30 2010 18:37 GMT
#129
Someone has a save file for the new patch? Seems like the one provided here requiers the previous version of StarCraft, thus logging me out of my account and not allowing me to obtain the achievement.
Seikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong4 Posts
October 01 2010 18:33 GMT
#130
Did it in 262min + Time used for all in

Researches that are very good: Auto Refinary, PF
Upgrades that are very good: all upgrades of marines, medics, tanks (must have), orbital command
Mercs that are very good: marine, viking, tanks, banshee
Other great stuffs like tech reactor, stuffs like that are great but i didnt get them

Played all stages on normal, skipping researches if it is time consuming
The following time is rounded up to nearest minute

Liberation Day - 3
Dont hit the boards, wastage of time.

Outlaws - 4
Just rush and kill, no need to train marines

Zero Hour - 21
Eat something, this stage is boring

Evacuation - 25
Same as above. Grab those zerg DNAs btw

Outbreak - 31
i was very lazy, u can probably do a lot better

Smash and Grab - 9
Get relics if you can, you can kill those stone zealots when u have around 7 marauders

Train - 24
Obviously get the zerg bones, another boring stage

Safe Haven - 10
Use your given vikings to kill phoenixs and wrap prisms. Then land on high ground and destrop the nexus. The third nexus may be harder since there is no high ground, break it through by force when u have around 8 vikings, then shoot the mothership from behind. I finished the mothership when it reached the 3rd outpost. Oh and, u should try to stop the first fleet else they might go for your base.

The Dig - 29
Boring. Note that spending 10 sec to get a protoss research is not bad.

Whispers - 10
Dun kill stuffs just because they are on your way, and i wont waste my time to destroy the hatches. Blink blink blink, done.

Sinister Turn - 6
Okay, after building 2 pylons send 2 probes to power up the DT shrine and robotics for research. 2 DT will pop up, get a third one using your gateway. Dodge Maar and rush to the preservers, 1 DT should be killed py photon cannon on the way. Also note that u want to get all prisons down to a few hp before killing any of them since Maar will teleport to the preservers if any prison is broken. You dont have to kill Maar in this stage

Echoes - 4
Use your observers and blink around. Dont care about your base and dont waste time punishing the zergs on the way.

Moebius factor - 8
1st and 2nd data cores are easy to destroy; For the third one, go southwest from the 2nd core and avoid the brutalisk. Land and kill the 3rd core. You may need to try a few times if you are not familiar with the map.

Cutthroat - 9
i would advice u to get PF research so that your base can be empty. Start out by getting out 1 or 2 medics. When the vultures arrive, lay all spider mines in your base and group them with the marines given and medics trained. Now go frenzy at orlan's bases, getting minerals on the way. Be sure to get some/all relics as well. Oh, and dont stop training SCVs. When ur minerals reached 6000, unload mira han's bunker and send all the forces straight to orlan's base, dodging the nuke of coz. Becoz this isnt hard, your force can crush orlan's base easily.

Supernova - 15
Go all banshees. After moving to the first protoss base, send around 12 banshees with 3 hel's angels (dun require training time) to kill the phoenix and cannons behind the artifact. You dun even need cloak for this. Oh, grab some easy relics on the way.

Maw of the void - 22
You can probably do better, i just BC and DT them.

Gates of hell - 14
i go all mm and stopped at 90 army value. Then i destroyed all the zergs along the path to the nydus worm. There should be some pods landing, use your orbital command to mule-rescue them to reach 100 army value, triggering the nydus worms. Hehe, the nydus worms got killed in a few seconds by my mm that reached warfield's landing site long ago.

Shaater the Sky - 18
dunno if this is good, but i bc all platforms...

All in - ???(no record)
10 tanks on each side, 15 banshee for killing worms (cloak if you get hit by hydralisks).
At around 50% many overlords appear, i was lazy and nova-ed them.
When QoBlades attack, just hit her with tanks and banshees.
Easy stage. I used only 1 nova for the overlords.
uyguygu
Terakahn
Profile Joined May 2005
Canada49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 18:46:57
October 02 2010 18:45 GMT
#131
Beat the whole thing, 19 missions in about 4 hours. No achievement. I am unpleased. I wonder if it had anything to do with replaying 2-3 missions for research. Still. 3 missions added up another maybe 30 minutes max. This makes no sense.

Edit: On that note.

On October 01 2010 03:37 WellDuh wrote:
Someone has a save file for the new patch? Seems like the one provided here requiers the previous version of StarCraft, thus logging me out of my account and not allowing me to obtain the achievement.



This would be greatly appreciated given that I dont want to spend another 5 hours doing this again...
The path of the forgotten is paved through many lessons learned.
licarn
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand17 Posts
October 03 2010 16:42 GMT
#132
Replays through your mission archive are very useful if you're still over by the end of the campaign because you can, in fact, speed run missions and ignore bonus objectives for a better time. I shaved off a solid 6+ hours by doing so all in the course of a day.


Except you can't, unless it's been changed since the start of this thread.

If you play a mission and complete it in 20 minutes, and then redo it through the archive and complete it in 10 minutes the game counts that as 30 minutes. Getting better times through the archive doesn't work.
Terakahn
Profile Joined May 2005
Canada49 Posts
October 04 2010 01:53 GMT
#133
On October 04 2010 01:42 licarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
Replays through your mission archive are very useful if you're still over by the end of the campaign because you can, in fact, speed run missions and ignore bonus objectives for a better time. I shaved off a solid 6+ hours by doing so all in the course of a day.


Except you can't, unless it's been changed since the start of this thread.

If you play a mission and complete it in 20 minutes, and then redo it through the archive and complete it in 10 minutes the game counts that as 30 minutes. Getting better times through the archive doesn't work.

Will replaying one on casual to get research invalidate the run? I replayed 2 missions on casual for research, then beat the rest and was well under 5 hours. Still no achievement.
The path of the forgotten is paved through many lessons learned.
Sortarius
Profile Joined October 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 21:07:56
October 08 2010 21:07 GMT
#134
Once I figured out how to do this, it was really really easy. The goal is to win every mission on NORMAL mode in less than 8 hours of actual mission time, but the trick is that you MUST play only Normal mode games. If you add in some other difficulty level games, it adds to the time. I will list at the bottom of this thread the missions and times I did this with. Oh btw, I played like 19 missions one night, then finished the rest up the next day, so you do not have to play them all in one solid stretch thank goodness! Also there were more than one game where I had to pause and walk away for a bit and that did not count against me.
I should also note that I collected every single zerg and protoss research item up until the Zeratul missions. By then I had bought and upgraded everything that I wanted (with the exception of the Banshee upgrades and mercs that I would not get until after playing Super Nova). Only upgrade what you need to complete the missions. Since I had way more money than I needed, if you skip some that take you an extra 5 or so minutes to get, don't worry about it.
Some of the items I upgraded include: marine, marauder, medic, bunker, command center, tank, banshee, and viking.
I believe that the only two mercenaries that I bought that I actually used were viking and banshee (both of which were used on Shatter The Sky and the banshees were used again on All In).
Something else that may help is if you get these research items: vehicles heal, slow down zerg, bunkers with guns, instant supply depots, comsat station, and the flame traps. With these alone you should be able to win the final level without using the artifact once.
I hope I didn't leave anything out there.

Missions
1 Liberation Day 2:34
2 he Outlaws 4:48
3 Zero Hour 20:12
4 Smash And Grab 9:54
5 The Devil's Playground 9:34
6 Welcome To The Jungle 13:34
7 The Great Train Robbery 24:49
8 Cutthroat 12:18
9 The Evacuation 25:2
10 Breakout 15:38
11 Outbreak 23:8
12 Engine Of Destruction 23:4
13 Media Blitz 18:49
14 Haven 14:24
15 The Dig 28:23
16 Piercing The Shroud 13:36
17 The Moebius Factor 11:26
18 Whispers Of Doom 11:15
19 A Sinister Turn 9:20
20 Echos Of The Future 11:25
21 In Utter Darkness 34:52
22 Super Nova 9:7
23 Maw Of The Void 19:1 - As I finished this I noticed an exploit where I bet I could win this in 10 minutes, but it was over and done with and I was way under my time, so I didnt bother.
24 The Gates Of Hell 11:57
25 Shatter The Sky 16:25
26 All In 30:8

Total game time is 7 hours, 5 minutes.
aNooburak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia190 Posts
October 09 2010 00:02 GMT
#135
I have a question about this achievement. Say I wanted to play through the missions again wanting to watch the cinematics in better quality (after getting a new pc :D), will the cinematics count as part of the time? If so, should I skip them or not worry about it and watch it.
Vangalorr
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1 Post
October 09 2010 23:33 GMT
#136
I just finished this yesterday and can confirm that you only need to do the 19 missions on normal.

I took longer than needed as I hunted out research points as I didn't purchase upgrades (so I could go back and grab the tech achievements). Plus I'm lazy and not very good.

Missions
1 Liberation Day 5:27
2 The Outlaws 10:16
3 Zero Hour 20:08
4 Smash And Grab 13:40
5 The Evacuation 24:58
6 Outbreak 34:05
7 The Great Train Robbery 24:30
8 Cutthroat 14:54
9 Safe Haven 12:51
10 The Dig 34:44
11 Whispers Of Doom 12:45
12 A Sinister Turn 6:23
13 Echos Of The Future 3:36
14 The Moebius Factor 16:37
15 Super Nova 18:29
16 Maw Of The Void 26:40
17 The Gates Of Hell 18:30
18 Shatter The Sky 22:12
19 All In 30:5

Total time = 342 minutes = 5 hours 42 minutes

@Mikro - Even if it counted the cut scenes there is plenty of time to get it done.
Simon1987
Profile Joined September 2010
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 23:39:59
October 10 2010 20:18 GMT
#137
hi guys how am i doing?

Liberation day 0:03:10
The Outlaws 0:04:32
zero hour 0:20:08
Smash & Grab 0:09:56
The devils playground 0:13:41
welcome to the jungle 0:11:26
The great train robbery 0:24:28
Cutthroat 0:13:52
The Dig 0:28:45
Whispers of Doom 0:13:29
A Sinister Turn 0:05:00
Echoes of the future 0:03:03
The mobius Factor 0:08:15






Total:
2:39:45

Do you think im on track? I will probably do breakout next i think.
Simon1987
Profile Joined September 2010
14 Posts
October 11 2010 23:24 GMT
#138
All done

4hrs 48 minutes. plenty of time to spare. No need to rush at all lol.



https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArlqtcKvsomadEVfYmI0TVJDaWZIVm4zZXlpS3NCanc&hl=en
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
October 12 2010 17:33 GMT
#139
On October 04 2010 10:53 Terakahn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 01:42 licarn wrote:
Replays through your mission archive are very useful if you're still over by the end of the campaign because you can, in fact, speed run missions and ignore bonus objectives for a better time. I shaved off a solid 6+ hours by doing so all in the course of a day.


Except you can't, unless it's been changed since the start of this thread.

If you play a mission and complete it in 20 minutes, and then redo it through the archive and complete it in 10 minutes the game counts that as 30 minutes. Getting better times through the archive doesn't work.

Will replaying one on casual to get research invalidate the run? I replayed 2 missions on casual for research, then beat the rest and was well under 5 hours. Still no achievement.

Yes it will add to the time, every time you play a mission that time is added to the total time taken so far. There is a way of doing what you want to do though and that is to save where you currently are, then play a mission for research then reload from your save so that the research mission you just played doesnt mess up your total time.
Odlanier
Profile Joined October 2010
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 19:17:13
October 12 2010 19:15 GMT
#140
First of all, english is not my first language, sorry if it is not good enough.

After lurking on this thread since last week while playing my campaign (Around 2 week, only play 1-3 hours/day),
i think a hypothesis and it turned out to be right.

Here's a fact (I've proven/tested it on my account) : Replay mission via archive will be not added into your game time, in fact for this achievement, blizzard will only take your best time (Normal/Hard/Brutal), not limited to the time when you beat it for the first time.

I got mine just before i wrote this post, while i DO replayed most of 29 missions. So, i played every mission around 1-4 times (Brutal while figuring out what to do and trying to accomplish all objectives, Hard/Normal for missed achievement, and Normal Speed Run), i always beat the campaign on brutal for the first time, that's why mostly i replay it on normal for speed run. I'm doing all 29 missions and just lazy to do Brutal Speed Run (and afraid if the time won't make it)

So, why a lot of people didn't get the achievement?
Because people replay the mission after they beat the campaign.
Blizzard will pick your best time of all mission you have done when you make a progress on your campaign a.k.a beat "All In" for the first time (That's why some achievements are rewarded as soon as when you accomplish it, like "Utter Darkness" 2nd & 3rd achievement. And some are rewarded at campaign score screen in the end).

So, load a save game before "All In", replay all mission via archive, and make sure total mission time below 7h29min (Because All In take around 30min and few second), then beat "All In", should work. (Because i replayed each mission immediately on normal speed run after beat it on brutal, so i'm only guessing about this one, but yeah, it should work)

=========
Here's my time and number of how many i played it
(for example, 2 times means, 1 Brutal and 1 Normal Speed Run)

Liberation Day - 2:23 (2)

The Outlaws - 3:38 (3)

Zero Hour - 20:08 (3)
Brutal time is 20:12, doesn't really matter

Smash and Grab - 7:39 (3)

The Evacuation - 23:05 (Brutal) (2)
Hard time is 23:06, don't know normal time, maybe 23:07

Devil's Playground - 10:05 (2)
This can be done in 5-6 mins actually, but i'm just lazy

Outbreak - 20:08 (2)

Welcome to the Jungle - 9:58 (3)

The Dig - 27:29 (3)

Safe Haven - 9:13 (3)

Haven's Fall - 17:25 (2)

The Great Train Robbery - 21:04 (Brutal) (1)
Brutal time should be fastest one, i don't bother replay, already got all achievement in one run anyway

Cutthroat - 9:09 (2)

Whispers of Doom - 8:47 (2)

A Sinister Turn - 5:51 (3)

Echoes of the Future - 3:34 (3)

In Utter Darkness - 40:35 (Brutal) (1)
too lazy to replay it on normal for like... 5-6 mins difference, got all the achivement on 1st run tho

Breakout - 12:16 (3)

Ghost of a Chance - 12:26 (2)

Engine of Destruction - 21:21 (3)

The Moebius Factor - 10:19 (4)
Forgot to do normal achievement twice, that's why i played it 4 times...

Media Blitz - 18:00 (3)
Can be done in 9-10 mins even on Brutal with spec/ghost, but i haven't spent any of my credits (Saving it for armory achievement)

Piercing the Shroud - 13:40 (Brutal) (2)
Replayable but it will only record one time (the last one you do)
I did it twice, one for achivement and the other for Brutal speed run because i'm doing brutal completionist. I'm afraid if i do normal speed run, it will affect brutal achievement, so i don't really care.

Supernova - 7:37 (3)

Maw of the Void - 17:04 (3)

Gates of Hell - 8:52 (3)

Belly of the Beast - 20:46 (2)

Shatter the Sky - 13:33 (3)

All In - 30:08 (Brutal) (1)
i'm happy when i saw my raid night achievement, otherwise i have to waste another 4 hours for normal speed run, because if this doesn't work, load a save game before all in like what i stated before, wouldn't work either

=========
So for those whose still trying to get this, good luck!
AvengerOfPi
Profile Joined October 2010
1 Post
October 15 2010 00:12 GMT
#141
What really bewilders me is that Blizzard doesn't offer any way of automatically seeing how much time you have built up already. I mean, many achievements which require a certain number of games to be played on certain difficulty levels will tell you how many you have done already, a very easy calculation to do automatically, and not too difficult to do on your own. But when it comes to having to add up all your [best] times, a very tedious thing to do by hand or to enter into a spreadsheet, Blizzard just says, "Good luck." Or, so it feels.

I have completed the 26 missions on Normal difficulty, in 459 minutes < 480 minutes = 8 hours of total time, and yet it doesn't give me the achievement. A similar sad story to that shared by numerous others.

I think Blizzard really needs to do something to fix up the clarity of this achievement. If the only way to figure out how to earn, for many people, is to poke around for hours, replaying the campaign, and probably learning or creating a few new curse words in the process, then Blizzard should take a serious look at the problem, if they have not/are not already.
pirsq
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia145 Posts
October 15 2010 06:52 GMT
#142
I want to confirm that it is now (as of 1.1.2, but probably as early as 1.1.0) possible to get this achievement via the mission archives. I loaded my "All In Victory" autosave from a brutal playthrough, and replayed some missions on normal until my best times (added up over all 29 missions) was less than 8 hours, after which the achievement immediately popped up.

I'm not sure why some people are still reporting that it does not work (perhaps there's some other hole in the achievement trigger), but in the situation described above, it worked for me.
Liha
Profile Joined October 2010
26 Posts
October 16 2010 12:35 GMT
#143
I've done all the missions all 29 of them but my time is around 10hours since i did all on Brutal, but what i'm wondering is for some reason some of the times didn't record and it says Time:NONE on 3 missions. So wondering if i have to get a time for them or maybe i got lucky and instead of 29 i only have to do 29?
Liha
Profile Joined October 2010
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 14:54:50
October 16 2010 14:50 GMT
#144
On October 15 2010 15:52 pirsq wrote:
I want to confirm that it is now (as of 1.1.2, but probably as early as 1.1.0) possible to get this achievement via the mission archives. I loaded my "All In Victory" autosave from a brutal playthrough, and replayed some missions on normal until my best times (added up over all 29 missions) was less than 8 hours, after which the achievement immediately popped up.

I'm not sure why some people are still reporting that it does not work (perhaps there's some other hole in the achievement trigger), but in the situation described above, it worked for me.


This is not true. I just played my times under 8 hours checked many times that i calculated right and then i loaded that Autosave for All in and nothing happened.

If anyone got a save for the new patch would be greatly appreciated. My times are clearly under the 8 hours mark with the bonus missions and most of times done on Brutal so pretty unfair i can't get the achievement.
asdfiprod
Profile Joined February 2005
United States34 Posts
October 18 2010 06:23 GMT
#145
Games where I lost my internet connection did not count towards certain achievements. This included save files.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 28 2010 14:14 GMT
#146
http://www.mediafire.com/?fqs7nbpiq9n41jm

works for patch 1.2 enjoy the achievement
thexile
Profile Joined October 2010
8 Posts
October 30 2010 17:51 GMT
#147
On October 28 2010 23:14 Drazerk wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?fqs7nbpiq9n41jm

works for patch 1.2 enjoy the achievement


Thanks!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 30 2010 19:40 GMT
#148
No problem, was quite fun however I did misjudge how much research i would be able to get.

(also great train robbery was a massive mistake to do I would advice all to skip that mission line if they want to get this achievement)
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5723 Posts
November 01 2010 09:05 GMT
#149
where do you put the save file? i cant find it
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
teh_longinator
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada725 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 18:26:04
November 02 2010 07:02 GMT
#150
So... I'm a tool, and played the first little bit in waaayyyyy too much detail. I think I've already put in 2 hours where I should have only put in half an hour, know what I mean...

Sooo... am I able to "redo" these missions and get the times that I should have, or just restart the campaign fresh, and go from there?

(I'm a multiplayer kinda guy, but want the achievements for single)

So is it recommended just to tear through Normal to get this achievement, then backtrack and get the others (Hard/Brutal) achievements (Since they are not timed.... are they?)

Edit: I just thought of something. Is it that you have to beat the campaigh WITHIN 8 hours? Like, start at 1, finish by 9?
Noosphere
Profile Joined November 2010
Macedonia5 Posts
November 02 2010 18:44 GMT
#151
Greetings. I got 1 question before i start in uther darkness. I must complete all the crystal missions too or i also can jump directly to char, fastest i can? thanks.
IamTheWhiteGuy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
November 02 2010 18:54 GMT
#152
On August 01 2010 07:20 Eredia wrote:
What I did mean was that if you look at the mission archive you will see your best time on a map. I thought I could get the achievement by lowering my best time on all maps by replaying them. To gain a total below 8 hours.

Did anyone try this? And if it would work, could it be a mix of times from normal/hard difficulty.


We had a huge discussion about this on the Blizz forums back near launch.

This DOES NOT WORK.

You must start the game, and then within eight hours of playtime without retries, complete the game.

That means you spend eight hours (not counting reloads) to complete the game.

I couldn't tell you anything more specific than that, but suffice to say that you at launch (and I see no reason to believe that this was patched to be different, since no mention of any kind was made about it), you were not allowed to simply drop your completion times below 8 hours.
The core gamer is the bastard middle child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results.
teh_longinator
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada725 Posts
November 02 2010 19:44 GMT
#153
On November 03 2010 03:54 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 07:20 Eredia wrote:
What I did mean was that if you look at the mission archive you will see your best time on a map. I thought I could get the achievement by lowering my best time on all maps by replaying them. To gain a total below 8 hours.

Did anyone try this? And if it would work, could it be a mix of times from normal/hard difficulty.


We had a huge discussion about this on the Blizz forums back near launch.

This DOES NOT WORK.

You must start the game, and then within eight hours of playtime without retries, complete the game.

That means you spend eight hours (not counting reloads) to complete the game.

I couldn't tell you anything more specific than that, but suffice to say that you at launch (and I see no reason to believe that this was patched to be different, since no mention of any kind was made about it), you were not allowed to simply drop your completion times below 8 hours.


So is the 8 hours including cutscenes/conversations? Or just play-time? I don't wanna have to re-play the entire thing to watch the TV newscasts, and talk to people if it doesn't affect anything...
Harpwn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia253 Posts
November 03 2010 06:18 GMT
#154
On October 28 2010 23:14 Drazerk wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?fqs7nbpiq9n41jm

works for patch 1.2 enjoy the achievement


Got a copy of this at the END of the mission?
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 12:29:49
November 03 2010 06:44 GMT
#155
On November 03 2010 15:18 Reignyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 23:14 Drazerk wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?fqs7nbpiq9n41jm

works for patch 1.2 enjoy the achievement


Got a copy of this at the END of the mission?

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IamTheWhiteGuy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
November 03 2010 07:12 GMT
#156
On November 03 2010 04:44 teh_longinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 03:54 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
On August 01 2010 07:20 Eredia wrote:
What I did mean was that if you look at the mission archive you will see your best time on a map. I thought I could get the achievement by lowering my best time on all maps by replaying them. To gain a total below 8 hours.

Did anyone try this? And if it would work, could it be a mix of times from normal/hard difficulty.


We had a huge discussion about this on the Blizz forums back near launch.

This DOES NOT WORK.

You must start the game, and then within eight hours of playtime without retries, complete the game.

That means you spend eight hours (not counting reloads) to complete the game.

I couldn't tell you anything more specific than that, but suffice to say that you at launch (and I see no reason to believe that this was patched to be different, since no mention of any kind was made about it), you were not allowed to simply drop your completion times below 8 hours.


So is the 8 hours including cutscenes/conversations? Or just play-time? I don't wanna have to re-play the entire thing to watch the TV newscasts, and talk to people if it doesn't affect anything...


It appears to be just mission playtime, but everyone I know who has completed it did in it one six or seven hour (realtime) sitting.
The core gamer is the bastard middle child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results.
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
November 03 2010 09:46 GMT
#157
On October 15 2010 15:52 pirsq wrote:
I want to confirm that it is now (as of 1.1.2, but probably as early as 1.1.0) possible to get this achievement via the mission archives. I loaded my "All In Victory" autosave from a brutal playthrough, and replayed some missions on normal until my best times (added up over all 29 missions) was less than 8 hours, after which the achievement immediately popped up.

I'm not sure why some people are still reporting that it does not work (perhaps there's some other hole in the achievement trigger), but in the situation described above, it worked for me.


How difficult is it to get this achievement with all 29 missions? What is the margin you completed this by?
Rise Up!
Likuedsnake
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2 Posts
November 10 2010 02:33 GMT
#158
If someone could put up a save file for the "All In" speed run for the new patch 1.1.3 (Nov 9 2010) would be greatly appreciated.
Condor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands188 Posts
November 10 2010 12:46 GMT
#159
Come on man, the achievement is for doing it, not for loading a save file!
Likuedsnake
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2 Posts
November 10 2010 15:26 GMT
#160
On November 10 2010 21:46 Condor wrote:
Come on man, the achievement is for doing it, not for loading a save file!


Trust me, I tried doing the achievement. I got a total time of 5hrs and the achievement didn't pop up. I missed some research points on normal so I went to the archive and played it on casual to get it before heading to char. I'm not sure if that counts towards my time. I'm not really feeling like doing another run just for 10 points. If you could help me out, would be greatly appreciated.
mistokibbles
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
November 12 2010 06:06 GMT
#161
On November 10 2010 11:33 Likuedsnake wrote:
If someone could put up a save file for the "All In" speed run for the new patch 1.1.3 (Nov 9 2010) would be greatly appreciated.

Instead of being lame like this, can someone give me some tips for doing Maw of the Void for this achievement? Going on normal but I keep trying to rush this and end up eventually running out of resources
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
November 12 2010 06:37 GMT
#162
On November 12 2010 15:06 mistokibbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 11:33 Likuedsnake wrote:
If someone could put up a save file for the "All In" speed run for the new patch 1.1.3 (Nov 9 2010) would be greatly appreciated.

Instead of being lame like this, can someone give me some tips for doing Maw of the Void for this achievement? Going on normal but I keep trying to rush this and end up eventually running out of resources


Build Battlecruisers and science vessels.
All play and no work makes Jack unemployed.
Liha
Profile Joined October 2010
26 Posts
November 12 2010 12:34 GMT
#163
Would indeed be nice if someone put a new save file for 1.1.3
mistokibbles
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
November 12 2010 19:01 GMT
#164
On November 12 2010 15:37 Antiochus wrote:

Build Battlecruisers and science vessels.

Too lazy to get enough research for Science Vessels so I've been using Mules and they work quite well. Would a few extra bcs really make all the difference? Especially with teh carriers, the mothership, cannons and stalkers
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 19:16:06
November 12 2010 19:06 GMT
#165
On November 13 2010 04:01 mistokibbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 15:37 Antiochus wrote:

Build Battlecruisers and science vessels.

Too lazy to get enough research for Science Vessels so I've been using Mules and they work quite well. Would a few extra bcs really make all the difference? Especially with teh carriers, the mothership, cannons and stalkers


I saw a video where a guy went ghosts with increased vision and orbital drops. Got like 4 nukes lined up or something then scanned and orbital dropped the ghosts in a detection free zone just in front of the vault area. He then nuked the objective and won in like 3/4 minutes.

Edit:


Also if you're just doing the mission straight up. Just go pretty much pure bc with a few units to defend your base, is easy peasy. Science vessels help but aren't necessary especially on difficulties below brutal. If you're running low on cash make sure you're getting all the pickups.
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
November 12 2010 21:15 GMT
#166
On November 13 2010 04:01 mistokibbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 15:37 Antiochus wrote:

Build Battlecruisers and science vessels.

Too lazy to get enough research for Science Vessels so I've been using Mules and they work quite well. Would a few extra bcs really make all the difference? Especially with teh carriers, the mothership, cannons and stalkers


Don't be lazy get enough research for science vessels.
All play and no work makes Jack unemployed.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 13 2010 09:48 GMT
#167
I just bought SC2 today and got this on normal, gunna try it on hard tomorrow.
90% of the missions I just went lulz terran imba bio ezpz and sweeped the place. And yes, for the last mission, mass BC + sci vessels lol.
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trx
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 15:25:41
November 13 2010 15:25 GMT
#168
So.. If I complete ~17/19 on brutal, save the game on hyperion (before going to char), complete all the other missions for 28... load the 17/19 save and complete the campaign... I can get the brutal completionist on the same day as this achievement?
Eye have you
ubdu
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
November 27 2010 22:44 GMT
#169
Here's a save for the achievement on patch 1.1.3, with about a minute until the end of All In. I took a roundabout way through the missions so I could get all research along with vikings and banshees to do Engine of Destruction of Brutal (my last brutal mission), but I was still under 8 hours. Enjoy.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?7qaot2r5mwjakix
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TO_slide
Profile Joined January 2011
United States73 Posts
January 20 2011 01:45 GMT
#170
is there an in game total timer for completed missions?
i'd like to start this one but i want to look at my time when i'm just messing around to see what i need to cut out
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#171
On January 20 2011 10:45 TO_slide wrote:
is there an in game total timer for completed missions?
i'd like to start this one but i want to look at my time when i'm just messing around to see what i need to cut out


There isn't.
If I were you I would just restart the entire mission. Skip the Zeratul storyline and rush towards all-in. You can do it in 16(?) missions.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
January 21 2011 00:10 GMT
#172
I recently completed this achievement in roughly 4 hours 45 minutes, with doing Tosh's first mission just to make Outbreak a complete joke. While a nice commodity, I had no tech-reactor research, as well as no Psi-Disruptors.

It's a very simple and somewhat fun achievement. Just switch your game speed to Faster, upgrade your marine/medic/siege tanks, and go at it!
The universe created an audience for itself.
JooCoon
Profile Joined September 2010
United States17 Posts
January 22 2011 20:44 GMT
#173
could somebody upload the raid night save for patch 1.2? Thanks.
I don't shoot sh1t up dog I gun it down
Ketho
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2 Posts
April 27 2011 18:56 GMT
#174
Sorry for the 3 months necro; here is the [Hurry Up It's Raid Night] save for v1.3.2

http://www.mediafire.com/?gpm04q7h5c2i984
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bwally
Profile Joined December 2010
United States670 Posts
May 22 2011 11:32 GMT
#175
Does anyone have the save file for v1.3.3?
Pelirrojo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
May 31 2011 21:53 GMT
#176
I just finished getting it. Here is a link to the end of all-in for current patch. I'm not sure how this works though, shouldn't you need the campaign save too?

https://rapidshare.com/files/916175095/All_In_almost_done.SC2Save
Rahlekk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States107 Posts
June 02 2011 16:59 GMT
#177
Anyone have the mission order for this? Couldn't find it while looking through the pages of the thread. (I probably missed it)

Just the needed missions, and I suppose any extras that give you units that help in general.
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
June 02 2011 17:05 GMT
#178
On June 03 2011 01:59 Rahlekk wrote:
Anyone have the mission order for this? Couldn't find it while looking through the pages of the thread. (I probably missed it)

Just the needed missions, and I suppose any extras that give you units that help in general.


Trust me, you won't really be needing a mission order, unless you somehow manage to pick all the longest missions and aren't doing them in a rush-mood.

Of course, if you're doing it on harder difficulties, then that's something else...

I managed to quite easily get this achievement by just randomly messing around doing missions that I felt were shorter, and some units that I wanted. As long as you remember to do the artifact missions as soon as you can, you should have no trouble.

I would stay out of the Matt Horner missions though, at least they felt quite timetaking for me. I think I did every tosh and hanson mission, and the first zeratul one.
Rahlekk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States107 Posts
June 02 2011 17:06 GMT
#179
Alright, thanks. I might do all the Zeratul ones because there's a way to do the second in 3 minutes, and can't you just kill your own buildings on the last one for the shortest time?
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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
June 02 2011 18:16 GMT
#180
Every time I see people begging for saves to get achievments it boggles and saddens me, especially here on TL...

It's essentially cheating to get meaningless points, when it would just take you a couple hours of your own work anyways. Personally I would lose all of the tiny amount of pride I have in my achievement number if I knew I didn't actually deserve it at all.

As for getting this achiev, I would do the protoss missions except for utter darkness, then the tosh missions through to the end, choosing the tosh option at the end, and then do as many hanson missions as you need to to have the artifact missions all unlock.

missions to try and avoid:
Utter darkness
Any of Matt's missions, all except the last are major time-sinks

Make sure you have enough time for all-in before even playing it, because it will always be the exact same length (30 minutes)
BorealisD
Profile Joined June 2011
32 Posts
June 10 2011 00:35 GMT
#181
It's not because of cheating, it's because of how dissapointing BNET can be. The achievement is poorly worded, and several achievements don't even work for me, despite having put in a lot of work for them. Take this one. I finished the campaign on normal... counted up the times... and I'm well under 8 hours. No achievement. Similarly, I finished the campaign on brutal. No achievement.

Don't really feel like doing it again in the hope that I am actually rewarded the 2nd time around.

Starcraft is great, but this achievement system feels like blizzard is trolling me : (
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 16:07:16
June 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#182
You have to do them all in 8 hours from start to finish not mission times.
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
June 10 2011 17:20 GMT
#183
On June 11 2011 01:06 GrapeD wrote:
You have to do them all in 8 hours from start to finish not mission times.


This is not true. I did mine during 3 different days. As long as the mission time total is under 8:00:00, and you've been connected to battle.net all the time, it should work. You should also do all the missions on the same difficulty.
Terkill
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark38 Posts
June 12 2011 11:16 GMT
#184
On August 01 2010 07:20 Eredia wrote:
What I did mean was that if you look at the mission archive you will see your best time on a map. I thought I could get the achievement by lowering my best time on all maps by replaying them. To gain a total below 8 hours.

Did anyone try this? And if it would work, could it be a mix of times from normal/hard difficulty.

No, that does not work. You need to start the campaign over and do the missions. Remember though, that you dont need to do the ones with Zerathul.
You're pro or you're noob. That's life
Pilmou
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 15:23:48
June 12 2011 15:23 GMT
#185
Lol you can skip more than zeratul. You just have to go the fastest possible on Char.
Plenus venter non studet libenter
Bladelore
Profile Joined June 2011
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 07:28:00
June 15 2011 07:27 GMT
#186
Worked fine for me. Incredibly easy, did more missions than I had to because I was going for other achievements too. You pretty much just need to bioball everything and for missions where you have to kill something, just mass banshee, ignore everything and take out the target.

Btw you should save before every victory so if you don't get the achievement you can load the save file. Happens some times to me, especially when I was getting my brutal achievement.

And yes, it only counts mission time. I AFK'd a lot and spent a while on Lost Viking too.
DrBeansy
Profile Joined April 2011
England85 Posts
June 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#187
Expected this to be much harder than it was! Just completed this afternoon/evening in 04:07:01 total. For anyone who wants to do it quickly, I did as follows;

1. Liberation day - 2.21
2. Outlaws - 3.43
3. Zero hour - 20.08
4. Smash and grab - 7.18
5. Devils playground - 10.33
6. Welcome to the jungle - 12.09 (11.26)
7. Great train robbery - 23.52
8. Cutthroat - 9.55
9. The dig - 27.27
10. Whispers of doom - 9.18
11. A sinister turn - 5.14 (5.00)
12. Echoes of the future - 3.06 (3.03)
13. Moebius factor - 8.09
14. The evacuation - 25.02
15. Supernova - 13.46
16. Maw of the void - 11.19 (9.24)
17. Gates of hell - 10.47
18. Shatter the sky - 12.47
19. All in - 30.07

The bold figures are times i have seen people state they have done, so its definitely possible to go quicker. Dont know if sub 4 hours is possible or not. A lot of the missions i feel if i went and did them now, i could do them much faster as the above was all first time
Wyk
Profile Joined March 2011
314 Posts
July 11 2011 17:06 GMT
#188
On June 25 2011 08:31 DrBeansy wrote:Dont know if sub 4 hours is possible or not.
Under 4 hours is no problem, the new goal should be 3;30.
I just loved the original starcraft speedruns. They all looked so fun!
ShinoFrog
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2 Posts
July 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#189
[url blocked]

Just dropping this for anyone who hasn't had time or was unable to get the achievement yet.
I cast the spells that make the people fall down.
Hamlet
Profile Joined May 2010
United States27 Posts
July 25 2011 09:03 GMT
#190
On June 25 2011 08:31 DrBeansy wrote:
The bold figures are times i have seen people state they have done, so its definitely possible to go quicker. Dont know if sub 4 hours is possible or not. A lot of the missions i feel if i went and did them now, i could do them much faster as the above was all first time


I've been speedrunning the campaign for fun lately. I was actually thinking of starting a separate thread just for speed enthusiasts, but since people were talking about minimum possible times just now, I figured I'd at least chime in. Here are my minimum mission times on Normal (all of them include any research pickups that I make use of in later missions):

Liberation Day 2:17
The Outlaws 2:53
Zero Hour 20:08
Smash and Grab 5:32
The Devil's Playground 4:10
Welcome to the Jungle 4:09
The Great Train Robbery 23:48
Cutthroat 5:43
Ghost of a Chance 5:37
The Dig 22:10
Whispers of Doom 7:18
A Sinister Turn 5:11
Echoes of the Future 2:51
The Moebius Factor 3:34
Supernova 4:52
Maw of the Void 2:41
The Gates of Hell 5:34
Shatter the Sky 2:53
All In 30:05

Total 2:41:26.

Videos of some of these are on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Arawethion?feature=mhee

I'll probably post a full video series of all the levels in order, maybe with commentary or something, but for now I'm still working on paring some time off of some of them.
NorthwestNorwegian
Profile Joined May 2012
1 Post
May 03 2012 03:11 GMT
#191
This route worked for me
1. (3) Mar Sara Missions
1. 3:00 - Liberation Day
2. 4:54 - The Outlaws
3. 20:12 - Zero Hour

2. (3) Tychus Missions
4. 12:30 - Artifact 1: Smash and Grab
5. 28:51 - Artifact 2: The Dig
6. 14:55 - Artifact 3: The Moebius Factor

3. (8) Other Missions, to hit 14 for:
1-7. 24:52 - The Evacuation
2-8. 13:24 - Welcome To The Jungle
3-9. 26:42 - Outbreak
4-10. 14:04 - Safe Haven
5-11. 25:14 - The Great Train Robbery
6-12. 25:42 - The Devils Playground
7-13. 16:53 - Cuthroat
8-14. 17:49 - Engine of Destruction

4. (2) Tychus Missions
7-15. 21:51 - Artifact 4: Supernova
8-16. 31:19 - Artifact 5: Maw of the Void

5. (3) Final Missions
17:12 - Gates of Hell
17:39 - Piercing the Shroud
30:08 - All In
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 03 2012 13:42 GMT
#192
Holy batman necro.
=Þ
lumencryster
Profile Joined March 2012
35 Posts
May 04 2012 04:30 GMT
#193
i did every single mission and repeated quite a few of them a lot of times and still got the achievement, so i think it only counts the total mission time when you finish the last mission
Krakmonkey001
Profile Joined June 2012
5 Posts
June 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#194
On August 08 2010 11:51 heronz wrote:
how are people able to get haven's fall in 10mins? i just did it and it took a wooping 25mins.

i took out initial infestation with provided troops. then mass units with transport and whip out 2 other infestations and protected 3 other settlements.


If you do supernova beforehand, banshees make this mission almost obscenely easy, since they brutally murder zerg ground, and when a settlement comes under attack, all you need is 3 or 4 vikings to kill off the overseer, then cloaked banshees to take out the virophage. Problem solved. Of course massing rines rauders is always an effective way to tear zerg new ones.
Krakmonkey001
Profile Joined June 2012
5 Posts
June 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#195
On July 25 2011 18:03 Hamlet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 08:31 DrBeansy wrote:
The bold figures are times i have seen people state they have done, so its definitely possible to go quicker. Dont know if sub 4 hours is possible or not. A lot of the missions i feel if i went and did them now, i could do them much faster as the above was all first time


I've been speedrunning the campaign for fun lately. I was actually thinking of starting a separate thread just for speed enthusiasts, but since people were talking about minimum possible times just now, I figured I'd at least chime in. Here are my minimum mission times on Normal (all of them include any research pickups that I make use of in later missions):

Liberation Day 2:17
The Outlaws 2:53
Zero Hour 20:08
Smash and Grab 5:32
The Devil's Playground 4:10
Welcome to the Jungle 4:09
The Great Train Robbery 23:48
Cutthroat 5:43
Ghost of a Chance 5:37
The Dig 22:10
Whispers of Doom 7:18
A Sinister Turn 5:11
Echoes of the Future 2:51
The Moebius Factor 3:34
Supernova 4:52
Maw of the Void 2:41
The Gates of Hell 5:34
Shatter the Sky 2:53
All In 30:05

Total 2:41:26.

Videos of some of these are on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Arawethion?feature=mhee

I'll probably post a full video series of all the levels in order, maybe with commentary or something, but for now I'm still working on paring some time off of some of them.


How in the heck did you do maw of the void so fast?? Normally even when I am being aggressive and not caring about the well-being of my units it still takes me 30+ minutes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 07 2012 11:14 GMT
#196
On June 05 2012 08:16 Krakmonkey001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 18:03 Hamlet wrote:
On June 25 2011 08:31 DrBeansy wrote:
The bold figures are times i have seen people state they have done, so its definitely possible to go quicker. Dont know if sub 4 hours is possible or not. A lot of the missions i feel if i went and did them now, i could do them much faster as the above was all first time


I've been speedrunning the campaign for fun lately. I was actually thinking of starting a separate thread just for speed enthusiasts, but since people were talking about minimum possible times just now, I figured I'd at least chime in. Here are my minimum mission times on Normal (all of them include any research pickups that I make use of in later missions):

Liberation Day 2:17
The Outlaws 2:53
Zero Hour 20:08
Smash and Grab 5:32
The Devil's Playground 4:10
Welcome to the Jungle 4:09
The Great Train Robbery 23:48
Cutthroat 5:43
Ghost of a Chance 5:37
The Dig 22:10
Whispers of Doom 7:18
A Sinister Turn 5:11
Echoes of the Future 2:51
The Moebius Factor 3:34
Supernova 4:52
Maw of the Void 2:41
The Gates of Hell 5:34
Shatter the Sky 2:53
All In 30:05

Total 2:41:26.

Videos of some of these are on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Arawethion?feature=mhee

I'll probably post a full video series of all the levels in order, maybe with commentary or something, but for now I'm still working on paring some time off of some of them.


How in the heck did you do maw of the void so fast?? Normally even when I am being aggressive and not caring about the well-being of my units it still takes me 30+ minutes.

He probably used the reinforcement upgrade where they get called down at your rally point and then nuked the target. that's the fastest way to do it as far as I know
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