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Just state upfront, I have nothing against Tricia Helfer. I'm a big fans of hers from BSG as well as EDI from Mass Effect 2. When I heard the announcement she was going to play Kerrigan, I didn't think much of it.
However, I was watching the scenes in SC2, fully invested in the story, then they replay some of the old dialogue from SC2, and hearing this strange voice just jars me out of the experience, this thought pop into my head, "wait, that's not Kerrigan". Kerrigan didn't have such a... well, calm demeanor and stoic / generic voice. Kerrigan was flirtatious (who can forget the lines "You pig!"), emotional, and had somewhat of a raspy accent that made her such an iconic character. The new Kerrigan... well, sometimes I couldn't even tell the voice belongs to Kerrigan's without subtitltes because it didn't have any distinguish features...
Perhaps the voice change would make sense for the roles changes to come. Anyone else experience this? (Hearing a strange voice for Kerrigan disconnects them from the gaming experience?)
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It's simply not the voice you remember, it's normal to feel a disconnection when it clashes with your memories of the character. There isn't much more to it.
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Not me, I like it. I'm just glad they made her multiplayer voice more tolerable.
WE REQUIRE MORE MINERALSSSZZ
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Go to the Map Editor, place the Queen of Blades, load a test map and mess around with her pissed quotes. There's some classics in there.
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On July 29 2010 07:16 Avaclon wrote:
Just state upfront, I have nothing against Tricia Helfer. I'm a big fans of hers from BSG as well as EDI from Mass Effect 2. When I heard the announcement she was going to play Kerrigan, I didn't think much of it.
However, I was watching the scenes in SC2, fully invested in the story, then they replay some of the old dialogue from SC2, and hearing this strange voice just jars me out of the experience, this thought pop into my head, "wait, that's not Kerrigan". Kerrigan didn't have such a... well, calm demeanor and stoic / generic voice. Kerrigan was flirtatious (who can forget the lines "You pig!"), emotional, and had somewhat of a raspy accent that made her such an iconic character. The new Kerrigan... well, sometimes I couldn't even tell the voice belongs to Kerrigan's without subtitltes because it didn't have any distinguish features...
Perhaps the voice change would make sense for the roles changes to come. Anyone else experience this? (Hearing a strange voice for Kerrigan disconnects them from the gaming experience?)
Yes, it's really disappointing when compared to the previous VA. She just doesn't do enough with the role and it seems like she changed the character to fit her voice.
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Not as disappointed as Jim not being a fat bald guy anymore...
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On July 29 2010 13:14 Pineapple wrote:
Not as disappointed as Jim not being a fat bald guy anymore...
yeah what's the story behind this? Raynor always had that bald haircut. Why did he decide to grow hair rofl
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It's Tricia Helfer. I think she's be perfect for it, but I'm a BSG fan so whatever. The unit voices do suck though, especially for protoss. The phoenix pilots sound like systems analysts.
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She doesnt sound like she cares about the role. Quite a few times made me cringe, the new raynor didnt bother me, nothing else but this bothered me. Especially her dialogue on the last mission she appeared in, she sounded soft almost flirty, I was expecting a school girl giggle.
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Kennigit
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The only thing that has ever bothered me about SC2's voice acting is that whenever a unit gets attacked, he wants to go running to his mommy.
"WE CANNOT HOLD!"
"ABANDON SHIP!" What? You're in a fucking battle cruiser. Yamato cannon that kid and shut up please.
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The problem is that Tricia Helfer is not a VA. Mostly she's a model : walks and talks pretty, but don't ask for much more. She can be an actress if you don't demand too much actual acting (i.e. make her play a robot) and play on her looks. Thus it's understandable that she would play a live-action role in C&C3 or a disincarnated voice in ME2. But taking over the role of a memorable character and main villain? No way, she just doesn't cut it even with all the sexiness. Also, being a VA is not simply about acting, it's also - and primarily I would say - about making a fictional and unnatural, out-of-this-worldly character feel as real as you and me with just your voice (when conveying emotions, about 7% of understanding comes from words themselves, 55% from face and body language and 38% from voice modulation; so you only have 38% to work with as the VA to infuse the character with life and act at the same time, hence the "voice acting" and not just "voicing" or "acting"). This is why Helfer had to change Kerrigan's character to fit her voice : she can't fit her voice to the character. She can't voice act. This is the same reason why Japanese voice actors are not the popular actors you see in movies and on TV : these live-action actors couldn't voice act if their life depended on it. Thanks to the anime and video game industries (continuating from the strong radio drama days), Japanese voice actors have become stars in their own right. Thus when you see a foreign Pixar or Disney animated film in Japan, the dub only ever includes a couple of known live-action actors for mainstream recognition, actors whose voice fit the characters (in the mind of the Japanese anyway). I'd like to see a Japanese version of Starcraft and Starcraft 2 with top-notch voice actors. Maybe it would make the script sound a little better.
Still, I'd really like to know why they brought Helfer over. Star power? Why not make Boxer voice Raynor (and iloveoov Tychus) while you're at it.
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I'd pay extra for a copy of the game with Matt Horner voiced by Rick Astley.
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The voice doesnt bother me as much as the fact that jim, kerrigan, and mengsk all look different than in bw. Its quite disappointing to look at a character and they are not how you remembered them at all.
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On August 04 2010 14:21 Mastermind wrote:
The voice doesnt bother me as much as the fact that jim, kerrigan, and mengsk all look different than in bw. Its quite disappointing to look at a character and they are not how you remembered them at all.
4 years, in-game time, is long enough for a lot to happen.
At least, with Raynor growing the hair and beard, 4 years of not-giving-a-fck will do that to you.
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On July 29 2010 14:19 Ordained wrote:
She doesnt sound like she cares about the role. Quite a few times made me cringe, the new raynor didnt bother me, nothing else but this bothered me. Especially her dialogue on the last mission she appeared in, she sounded soft almost flirty, I was expecting a school girl giggle.
new raynor? what are you talking about. the voice for raynor was the same in SC1 and SC2.
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On July 29 2010 14:24 Kennigit wrote:
The only thing that has ever bothered me about SC2's voice acting is that whenever a unit gets attacked, he wants to go running to his mommy.
"WE CANNOT HOLD!"
"ABANDON SHIP!" What? You're in a fucking battle cruiser. Yamato cannon that kid and shut up please.
This. A BC gets hit by a Hydra, OH NOS ABANDON SHIP!
Pisses me off.
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her VA seems alright to me, it is definitely different though
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On August 04 2010 14:15 Bidouleroux wrote: She can be an actress if you don't demand too much actual acting (i.e. make her play a robot) and play on her looks.
If you actually watched BSG you'd know she wasn't exactly R2-D2.
For the record, I liked the voice. Then again, SCI was so long ago I don't remember old kerrigan voice.
I look forward to hearing her in HotS
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On August 04 2010 15:02 MangoTango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 14:24 Kennigit wrote:
The only thing that has ever bothered me about SC2's voice acting is that whenever a unit gets attacked, he wants to go running to his mommy.
"WE CANNOT HOLD!"
"ABANDON SHIP!" What? You're in a fucking battle cruiser. Yamato cannon that kid and shut up please. This. A BC gets hit by a Hydra, OH NOS ABANDON SHIP! Pisses me off.
...and all unit voices are like that. Who was the idiot that honestly thought this is a good idea?
Instead of "we're under attack", it's "we're horribly losing"... that enemy scv that manged to get a hit off before exploding must've looked very mean and scary!
Sadly, the dialogue and sounds in the game are kind of "meh".
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On August 04 2010 14:21 Mastermind wrote:
The voice doesnt bother me as much as the fact that jim, kerrigan, and mengsk all look different than in bw. Its quite disappointing to look at a character and they are not how you remembered them at all.
I thought Mengsk looked almost the same? I was holding out for the possibility that Raynor might cut his hair and clean up his act towards the end but nope =[
Anyway, her voice didn't bother me - but it's not like Kerrigan had any memorable lines at all in this game ;p Did she say anything other than "you are fools for going up against me, prepare to die"?
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Yes, the new just doesn't sound like a queen bitch of the galaxy,
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I think the new Kerrigan is voiced pretty damn good - like all characters in the game. Previous Kerrigan also was pretty damn good.
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Anyone with decent standards would prefer the previous VA.
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Im disappointed by how short the campaign is.
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This is the one thing about the campaign that I am irked enough about to complain about. To me she was significantly worse than Glynnis Campbell - Tricia Helfer lacked the character and arrogance that Campbell had. To me she just sounded like a random Californian chick, and it's not nostalgia - Campbell was clearly the better voice actor. Anyone know why she was fired, by the way?
I thought most of the other voices were done incredibly well.
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I think you just have to realize that Tricia really wasn't hired to be the Queen of Blades... It's obvious from the limited dialog in this game and the fact that HotS is the next in the series, that she was hired to portray Sarah Kerrigan, the woman that stole Jim Raynor's heart. So while she's not as menacing and scary in this game as the previous actress was, she's basically doing the exact opposite role.
The previous actress (I've forgotten her name) had like two missions as Sarah, and 30 as the Queen of Blades. She was evil personified, but in a cunning way. Tricia had maybe, what?, 10 lines in this game as the Queen of Blades? She'll be spending an entire campaign (most likely) as Sarah. And in that I think she'll do just fine. I actually enjoyed her voice work, but I'll be the first to admit I find her voice far more fitting for the lovely, and enigmatic Sarah than for the death and claws Queen of Blades.
Ending Spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +I don't know about you, but when I heard "Jim?" come out of that last cinematic, my heart skipped a beat. I think she'll be very compelling as the now-vulnerable Sarah.
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raynor also cut that unibrow ^.^
also doesn't anyone else think he looks really close to charlie sheen?
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You do make a good point, I think she may be a better fit as human Sarah Kerrigan. Glynnis Campbell had a very characteristic voice for Sarah, but it was somewhat... "rebellious" i guess, can't think of a better word. So maybe Tricia Helfer will portray a better girly Kerrigan
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I hardly remember the old Kerrigan voice. However, I find no fault with the current Kerrigan voice though.
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im amused that the scientist guy is the voice actor of lloyd from ToS. god is his voice annoying.
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On August 05 2010 00:36 NyxErinyes wrote:I think you just have to realize that Tricia really wasn't hired to be the Queen of Blades... It's obvious from the limited dialog in this game and the fact that HotS is the next in the series, that she was hired to portray Sarah Kerrigan, the woman that stole Jim Raynor's heart. So while she's not as menacing and scary in this game as the previous actress was, she's basically doing the exact opposite role. The previous actress (I've forgotten her name) had like two missions as Sarah, and 30 as the Queen of Blades. She was evil personified, but in a cunning way. Tricia had maybe, what?, 10 lines in this game as the Queen of Blades? She'll be spending an entire campaign (most likely) as Sarah. And in that I think she'll do just fine. I actually enjoyed her voice work, but I'll be the first to admit I find her voice far more fitting for the lovely, and enigmatic Sarah than for the death and claws Queen of Blades. Ending Spoiler + Show Spoiler +I don't know about you, but when I heard "Jim?" come out of that last cinematic, my heart skipped a beat. I think she'll be very compelling as the now-vulnerable Sarah.
This is very true! + this post 100% I hadn't even thought of the fact that she will be a better fit for HotS.
Also, while the old kerrigan was great as queen of blades, I found her human kerrigan voice to be obnoxious and annoying.
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On July 29 2010 14:24 Kennigit wrote:
The only thing that has ever bothered me about SC2's voice acting is that whenever a unit gets attacked, he wants to go running to his mommy.
"WE CANNOT HOLD!"
"ABANDON SHIP!" What? You're in a fucking battle cruiser. Yamato cannon that kid and shut up please.
I hate this so very much. It makes it sound like you lost a unit rather than 8 BCs killing off a single phoenix while you're not looking.
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i love Tricia Helfer's voice!
almost forgot about the terran 1a2a boredom everytime her pic popped up to charm me!
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![[image loading]](http://starcraft.neoseeker.com/w/i/starcraft/1/1f/JimRaynor_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif) vs
![[image loading]](http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/images/artwork/raynor.jpg)
I really don't know why they completely overhauled his looks. SC2's James Raynor seems so much less generic looking.
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On August 05 2010 03:03 Kezzer wrote: vs I really don't know why they completely overhauled his looks. SC2's James Raynor seems so much less generic looking.
Because a human's physical features change over the span of four years?
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I'm disappointed by a lot of aspects in sc2  If you rant enough about what you dislike about sc2, people start to label you as a hater. Well, sc1 is my baby; blizzard, bioware, and valve are my fav pc gaming companies; and I'm afraid big business has a stranglehold on blizz's creative development team.
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Kerrigan's been hanging out with only Zerg for the last 4 years. If she sounds less emotionally invested in her talking, maybe it's because her only conversation has been BLLEHHRRAAGGRRAAA for quite a while. At least, that's a good excuse :p
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On July 29 2010 07:29 FecalFrown wrote:
Not me, I like it. I'm just glad they made her multiplayer voice more tolerable.
WE REQUIRE MORE MINERALSSSZZ
That's not Kerrigan's voice.
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I loved SC2's Kerrigan's voice, It's so sexy :<
+ Show Spoiler +I got hard watching her cinematic  no joke
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double post omg >_< sry
Quote button's so close to Edit
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